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Fecken Engerlesh bastards! Yous have conquered us, oppressed us, humiliated us for centuries. And now we have the chance to get rid of yous we are going to vote..
And we are going to vote Noooo.
Fecken hilarious!
As I’ve said before, I have no dog in this particular fight, but I have found the exchanges on the referendum and the consequences of Scottish independence interesting.
This thread is instructive as regards the “mechanics” of this blog, for the following reason.
Here’s a Question and Jane T have posed five rather pertinent (and important) questions.
The immediate responses are:
“The 3 ‘question’ comments above (7:50, 8:01 & 8:02) all came from the same IP address. They all seem to be from the same person.” (my reaction: so what? The questions are all valid; why does it matter id they are from one, two, or even five different people?)
“It seems like McTernans unitrolls are busy.” (my reaction : the typical evasive insult from someone who cannot or won’t answer valid questions)
“The Bitter Together attack dogs could at least have the decency to frame their ‘questions’ to Craig in a less aggressive manner.” (my reaction : nothing aggressive about those questions; a typical arse-licking “answer” from Lady Dorking)
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The only coherent attempt at an answer – but to only one of the five questions – is from Deepgreenpuddock. All the others are either insults, evasions, deviations onto other themes (I saw something about Syria from SS Police General Nebelmind!)or “answers” to questions other than the five put in the table.
I also notice – to my regret – that Craig, every second of whose posts in now about the referendum and Scottish independence – some of which very detailed – has not yet essayed a serious answer to those questions.
Only a very stupid person will not draw certain conclusions from this sorry spectacle.
“Right to know.” Well, goodness. Babbling rights baby-talk now! There’s nothing to know yet. That is for a sovereign Scottish people to decide in accordance with the democratic standards of ICCPR Article 25 clause b, when they are no longer subject to City-of-London corruption or coercion.
Quite fearful for your modest means, aren’t you? If you need to be assured of Pound notes emblazoned with Savile’s portrait, or dick, or whatever, then perhaps you’re not ready for independence. England will doubtless take you back. Just remember never turn your back on Her Highness!
Not another one! What’s the point?
13 August 2014 Last updated at 18:15
Scottish independence: BBC confirms Salmond-Darling debate
Mr Salmond and Mr Darling clashed in a televised debate hosted by STV last week
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The BBC has confirmed it is to broadcast a live referendum debate between Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling on 25 August.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28780811k
Na canny. Na canny see what’s wrong with yous Engerlesh bastard paedos. We’s prood Scots ha ne’er, ne’er any a paedo amongst our ranks. And when we have had a bastard war criminal paedo, it’s still the fault of yous British Bastards. Cuz we’re Scots.
This currency fixation is of course the Zionazi “nation-building”gambit applied to Britain’s own colony, Scotland. In place of Palestine’s National Plan, blue-penciled and niggled till the cows come home and then abruptly obstructed to blow deadlines in the nick, Scots are instructed to define a currency in advance – so that crooked English toffs can piss on it and send the Scots repeatedly back to the drawing board, balking Scottish self-determination into the twilight of the Holocene era. Fuck that. The nasal whining of Britain’s currency obsessives is one last attempt to rig the rules while they still can.
looks like the unionist schoolmaster has awoken from his stupor.
Our resident paedolovekuk called me a Nazi, he who admired him all his life, keeping his lederhosen SS outfit ready for when Moishe comes to visit.
Listen to his hobnail boots clicking. Look fuckface, you call me a Nazi and I call you a murderous paedo, that should do it.
Vote No and you get more of these UNIONIST PAEDO COVER UPPERS, vote yes and you can get rid of them.
Scotland has ~ 5.5 Million people.
700,000 postal votes have just been sent out.
Sounds like Westminster is preparing for a Karzai type ballot.
If the polls which indicate that Yes voting intentions have declined to around 35% and the Noes are at over 60 % are anywhere near correct, I’m beginning to see what’s behind most of the outpourings on this and similar threads.
The words “frustration” and “bad losers” come to mind.
Ingo Kartoffelfresser :
“looks like the unionist schoolmaster has awoken from his stupor.”
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Whaddya mean, stupor? I’ve been having a great time, lots of beach volley and tennis and so on. Active as a flea! 🙂
You should get out a little more, Teppichfresser.
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La vita è bellissima, life is great!
So what, I ask myself, are the Americans bombing in north western Iraq?
The media focus is on the aid, not the bombing, so the short answer has to be: not very much.
ISIS is a useful tool for isolating Syria from any Iraqi or Iranian assistance. With that buffer in place – patrolled by US air power, don’t forget – watch the war in Syria flare up again.
ISIS came from Jordan – called there by the Saudis; trained and armed by the US and Israel.
Damascus first; Tehran second. Same as it ever was.
DoNNyDunCE
“Sounds like Westminster is preparing for a Karzai type ballot.”
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I think you’ve spotted it, Donny!
But tell us more – who’s orchestrating the ballot rigging? Is it MI5, the world wide Zionist conspiracy (leader: Anchel Rothschild (deceased)), the Windsor Reptile Family (leader: Queen Liz(ard)) or the British League of Paedophiles?
Mike
“So what, I ask myself, are the Americans bombing in north western Iraq?”
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I don’t know, Mike.
But I do know that you should be asking yourself this on a more appropriate thread.
Twit!
Another favorite trick of the Queen’s courtiers is to cherry-pick an unspecified and unsourced poll to prove that No is going to prevail, so nyah, nyah nyah, or something. This is particularly effective with the Viscount Moncktons of the world, all trivium and no quadrivium, the sort who gloat in triumph on every sultry day because that means global warming is disproved. Numerate people, on the other hand – people who are able to grasp probability as well as count to 100 – these people take a rigorous look at the evidence and learn that the central tendency of the probability distribution of independence is…
http://www.dailynews724.com/politics/scottish-independence-vote-too-close-to-call-h186960.html
49 percent? plus or minus 5 per cent at the 95% CI?! Impossible to call?
This is astonishing. Not because the calculations are counterintuitive – Bayesian analysis is straightforward for educated persons. But that independence can hold its own against the bottomless mendacity and manipulative capacity of the British oligarchy and its servile press, that is hard to believe.
“Another favorite trick of the Queen’s courtiers is to cherry-pick an unspecified and unsourced poll to prove that No is going to prevail”
Here you go, all the polls since 2011. The very latest (Survation/Scottish Daily Mail) gives Yes 37%, No 50%. Note how little change there has been over three years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014
The sooner this bloody referendum is over the better. Sad to see that some of those supporting the Yes Campaign are already lining up reasons as to why they failed, not just on this blog but on a number of others. If the No Campaign does win I hope that Alex Salmond has the good grace to acknowledge he failed to pursuade the people of Scotland and calls on his supporters to recognise the result rather than indulge in years of recrimination and the pursuit of half baked conspiracy theories. I am far more concerned about how communities in Scotland pull together after the referendum, regardless of the result.
Bless me,MJ,its like you almost want our side to lose.
That and your ‘no true independent scotchman ‘ bullshit makes me think you that is what you want.
Polls are product, you get what you pay for.
Mick
I fear I do not believe your last sentence. You aim vituperation solely at Alex Salmond; you have no criticism of the No campaign. You do not want reconciliation after the result, whatever it is. That is a plain pious lie. You want the Yes side to lose and then to grovel.
Yawn
Polls can be so accurate indeed
Oh dear, one must have hurt the fee-wings of little MJ, since at 11:08 he’s barfed up great moist chunks of undigested data – from Wikipedia, no less, the royal road to ignoramus status, beloved by conniving government apparatchiks – quite puked it out on the floor, blop, as though questions of its proper analysis went right over his head.
Tell me. MJ, what do you make of the third moment of the polling distribution, and its potential implications for surprises?
Hmmm?
Craig,
I haven’t witnessed any No Campaigners preparing their excuses in the event of losing the referendum, probably due to the fact that they are ahead in the polls. I have witnessed Yes supporters doing so, on this blog, on others, in the workplace and even in the pub. Therefore it stands to reason to hope that Alex Salmond, as leader of the Yes Campaign, would call on his supporters not to go down that route if the No side does win. Furthermore, I have witnessed this debate first hand in Scotland, something which you have decided not to do, and I have seen the divisions that it has caused. Therefore my desire for the referendum to be over and done with is genuine, as is my desire for communities to come together after the 18th of September. Call me a liar if you wish but given my explanation above it is a baseless insult.
If there is a NO outcome, will the referendum become an annual or bi-annual event until the correct answer is found ? Will Scotland adopt it’s own time standard and not alter to BST GMT as currently dictated by London. How about drivng on the right ? Sweden used to drive on the left then they moved over to line up with Europe (and USA ???)
“Tell me. MJ, what do you make of the third moment of the polling distribution, and its potential implications for surprises?”
Don’t understand the question. First you complained about folk cherry-picking unspecified and unsourced polls, so I provided you with a link to all the polls, each one nicely specified and sourced and then you complain about that! There’s no pleasing some people.
‘There’s no pleasing some people’
A little rich coming from someone as picky as you
Do you remember the Irish referendum on EU?
Soon after the inccorect answer there was another referendum and the outcome was classifes and endorsed as “correct”!
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ON the issue of the IS formerly iSIS evidently the Macedonian lines of refugees all getting kicked out of (was it Croatia, or Slovenia?) that went on the telly for days on end are not going to be repeated over there in Irbil.
The numbers of refugees from gigantic has climbed down to “in single figure of thousands”. This could be due to the convoy on its way to Ukraine, after all there is no need to start a shooting war if it is going to go nuclear?
I should earn a living as a pundit, but I don’t genuflect and thus disqualified from the champagne and caviare circuit, although I must admit I prefer my bread and cheap margarine (huh used to be cheap).
The Assad overthrow front just could not afford the cowboy tactics of going in all guns blazing, if the other side has got bigger guns.
Now watch the quick de-escalation and the iSIS disappearing to Yemen or some other place in the area.
” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, served notice on Washington: “You should know, you defender of the cross, that getting others to fight on your behalf will not do for you in Syria as it will not do for you in Iraq.”
The U.S. corporate media were more interested in the rest of al-Baghdadi’s message, in which he warned Washington that “soon enough, you will be in direct confrontation – forced to do so, God willing. And the sons of Islam have prepared themselves for this day. So wait, and we will be waiting, too.” For most self-obsessed Americans, this was received as a threat to attack “the Homeland.” However, downtown Manhattan is not on the Caliphate leader’s map. Al-Baghdadi meant that the American strategy of financing Muslim muppets to fight imperialism’s wars is kaput, and that the Pentagon will soon have to do its own dirty work, dressed in “Crusader” uniform”
http://blackagendareport.com/content/empire-reaps-jihadist-whirlwind
Also needed; a re-boot on the Security apparatus.
Gaza begins tense five-day truce
Palestinian man in rubble of apartment complex, Gaza photo
Israel and the Palestinians begin a fresh five-day ceasefire in Gaza, but immediately trade rockets and air strikes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28782224
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Israel – Creators of buildings-into-rubble extraordinaire
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The old twister is at it again. Listen carefully. Israel is as pure as the driven snow.
‘Peace man’ Peres: we gifted them Gaza to make Med paradise, now they terrorise us and use children as human shields
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28768257
The lie about using Palestinian children as human shields is repeated. What evil.
@Jemand:
“I cannot imagine that Westminster would make any statement indicating that it will or will not accomodate a currency union.”
The House of Commons Scottish Affairs Committee has already done so.(Click here). “If Scotland leaves the United Kingdom there will not be a currency union (…) We believe no change to the stated policy of no currency union is possible, either in the run-up to the General Election of 2015 or beyond.”
So have all three major British political parties. (Click here, here and here.