Yes Scotland Meetings 818


Confirmed speaking dates at the moment are
26 August St Andrews
28 August Insch
29 August Dundee
30 August Cupar, Fife

I will post details of times and venues shortly – these are all evening events. I am still open to invitations on dates around these, and indeed any daytime events. Don’t mind dashing all over the place. A number are in the pipeline already. Contact me using the button at top of page.

Have been rather unwell the last couple of days, so please forgive lack of regular posts. BBC Hardtalk interview with Anders Fogh Rasmussen of NATO made me feel much worse. Totally incapable of acknowledging the disasters NATO and NATO members have inflicted on the world since the collapse of the Soviet Union – and the BBC totally incapable of serious questioning on the point.


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  • Jim Naughtie get it right

    Thanks for your refreshing remark re: Mr. Abbott, peter kemp. His comments are crafted by those around him and he would have felt considerable pressure to speak out against Independence at this point in time. The BBC will amplify comments from anyone against Independence, make it vox pop if they have to, just to fill more minuites with their tirade against an idea who’s time has come.

    This flurry of BBC induced activities speaks of a sense of forboding desperation by one side, they do not like the positive support that lies behind it. What will happen to those in the BBC who have contributed to this campaign? will they get a gong?

    What rattles my cage is the aftermath, what will the fuming No campaign do when its all over? will they put their hands up and except the innevitable, tell their Rangers and Orange supporters to accept the change, or will they procrastinate and play dirty as they have done sofar? Will flags be banned in football grounds? What weill the BBC’s role be in this besmirching of a new dawn? will they desist? do bears shit in woods?

    What would the yes side do if they loose by a smidgeon? try again in ten years time?
    My point is that once this idea is in the public mind churning hopes and desires, it will never die but morph into a differtent form of campaigning and eventually, when the establishemnt has pulled all their potatoes out of the fire and made them safe, it will happen.

  • fred

    “You think you’re a Socialist? And you’re defending Blair against Salmond? Time to revisit your beliefs, Fred.”

    For Christ sake get a grip man. I have never supported Blair, I have never defended him here, I have criticised him and his policies.

    RoS claims that Salmond’s visit to Murdoch was on official government business. If it was there would be minutes of the meeting.

    That’s all there is to it, nobody mentioned Blair but you, the world does not revolve around Blair. Because I am not obsessed with him and tracking his movements 24/7 does not mean I support him.

  • Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    RoS claims that Salmond’s visit to Murdoch was on official government business. If it was there would be minutes of the meeting.

    Tried an FOI request? If it bothers you that much. I mean, you’re not obsessed or anything, are you?

    If I have maligned you re. Blair, I apologise. But reflect: the SNP is a lot more like a socialist party than Scottish Labour, and if you could just get over your sense of persecution by raving Bravehearts, you’d do a lot better to vote for them and the state they have in mind.

    A Nat once said something similar to me, long ago, and I poohpoohed him. Ten years later I was an SNP member, trying to match the Tories dirty tricks department and occasionally succeeding.

  • fred

    “Tried an FOI request? If it bothers you that much. I mean, you’re not obsessed or anything, are you? ”

    You sound just like Habbabkuk.

    It doesn’t bother me. I know what happened and so does everyone else. Anybody who believes Salmond went to Murdoch to talk about Scottish jobs then I have a bridge to sell them.

    I proved my point. if the meeting was official there would be minutes.

  • nevermind the airl;ift what about Palestine?

    Is it really the best thing to increase the arms supplies in Iraq? have we not realised that ISIS is good at nabbing arms, robbing banks and spreading wars the UN can’t make decisions on.

    And here from one of our erstwhile Kosovoan bombers and supporter of the red army faction, Joschka Fischer, ex taxi driver/ex German foreign minister.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/terrorgruppe-is-joschka-fischer-fordert-deutsche-waffen-fuer-den-irak-a-986512.html

    For those interested in Turkeys succession into the EU, such as Cameron and Obomber, forget it. germany has spied on Turkey for years, they have not behaved different than the NSA and GCHQ. Merkel is ignoring Erdogan and he’s niffed that she is blowing cold on Turkey’s EU plans.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/bnd-spionage-in-der-tuerkei-ankara-veraergert-ueber-deutschland-a-986528.html

  • Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    You sound just like Habbabkuk.

    Tried that on Google Translate. It detected the language as Obfuscatian. Translation:
    “Nothing would induce me to invite counter-evidence for my assertion, for fear it might actually exist. I will now take a shot at the messenger.”

    Pfft.

  • Jemand

    “Q. You’re not Jemand are you?

    PS You ‘bare’ bottoms btw. ‘He can’t bare the the thought of the ‘old country’ breaking up.’”

    No, Mary (previous page). Mick is not me. And to make it even more clear to your uneducated mind, I am not Mick. But there is absolutely no doubt, you are a dickhead and a proven recidivist liar. I have expressed several times that I would be quite happy for a UK divorce in order to save at least a part of it from flushing itself down the toilet. Now fuck off back to Stormfront where you belong, you wizened old troll.

  • nevermind the airl;ift what about Palestine?

    I have just put Pfft. into google and it came up with ‘ill wind escaping bulbous cheecks’ Ba’al, anywhere near your search terms?

    This latest ejaculation by our highly regarded dick of the month, jemand niemand is also applies to the same explanation above, the apltly named
    Pfft.

    “And to make it even more clear to your uneducated mind, I am not Mick. But there is absolutely no doubt, you are a dickhead and a proven recidivist liar. I have expressed several times that I would be quite happy for a UK divorce in order to save at least a part of it from flushing itself down the toilet. Now fuck off back to Stormfront where you belong, you wizened old troll.”

    this eloquent muse, also known as ‘such rubbish’, will no doubt show visitors here that the age old art of fenestration should be added to that of moderation.

    He could have just be nice and wrote happy birthday Mary, but…. it had to be a Pfft.

  • Resident Dissident

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/08/yes-scotland-meetings/#comment-473446

    So Mary doesn’t like it when foreigners express their views about the affairs of other countries of which they know little – lets us not forget that this comes from same source that accused the Moslem Brotherhood in Egypt of being a creation of Hillary Clinton and awarded hero status to John Pilger. Apparently loud mouth Australians are ok if what they spout meets Mary’s test for political correctness but need to be denied free speech if they don’t – nothing ever changes.

    As for Salmond he does seem to have a rather unfortunate history in selecting those that he admires

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/10799027/Alex-Salmond-Rupert-Murdoch-is-a-remarkable-man.html

  • Republicofscotland

    @ Habb

    No Eminence or Useful Idiot here has yet disappeared, lost his job or been jailed or otherwise harrassed by the police. As always, I stand ready to be corrected on this.
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    Hmm! Talk about being naive, I’m sure these guys would dispute your preposterous claim.http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/14/newsid_2543000/2543613.stm

    Or what about this guy, no injustice here then Hmm!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4713753.stm

    Or this guy no injustice there then, only a fool would believe he hung himself.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10192271/The-betrayal-of-Dr-David-Kelly-10-years-on.html

    Or maybe this one, you know how it is when you want to commit suicide, but can’t make your mind up which suicide note to leave, so you leave 3 suicide notes, just in case.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/13/jacintha-saldanha-suicide-notes

    I could cite many more dubious and unjust cases but whats the point. BTW are you from the UK or where?

  • Just saying

    What if the MI6 gets wise,the canny Scots are simply playing a game with the (YouGov) pollsters, do they have a Plan C to rig the vote then – unless they plan an indefinite vote count delay?

    It had better not be as silly as with the MH17 black boxes – they darent cook anything not knowing if the Novorussians have already made mp3 copies with aid of some deft Russian high tech – its the old Kugubu routine, let the devils dig a deeper hole for themselves and then we strike.

    All is quiet on the spin front, even the SUN is clammed up, its ominous, Putin will have to be allowed to take over Eastern Ukraine with Porky & Yats under false flag exposure blackmail, or be left with the option of a quick getaway to israel instead?

    But we should have known along – the fake “auschwitz” audio of mavimarmara, the faked Syrian foot-soldiers panic audio by 8200 (which CM pointed out was not picked up at Trodos) and now the even faker audio of a “novorussia BUK crew” that they have shown on video returning back to Ukrainian lines !!

  • Republicofscotland

    @Fred

    “Why aren’t the minutes of the meeting available, you guys make me laugh anytime there’s a wobble at Westminster regarding a paedophile politician (and there’s many) a D Notice is thrown over it, and you want to know why there’s no minutes between Salmond and Murdoch.”

    Yes, I do want to know.

    I have a right to know.

    So YOU want to know 3 words for you Freddy boy Salmond, Shetland, Disguise.

  • Republicofscotland

    One can not be anything other than sickened by the corrupt and debauched government of the UK known as Westminster.

    http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr181/jenkins.htm

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/04/corporate-britain-corrupt-lobbying-revolving-door

    Of course it had to be the British under Westminster who wiped an entire race of people from the planet, its not just Cameron and Miliband (staunch members of Friends of Israel)who want to commit genocide via Netanyahu and arms sales to his terrorist state.

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/the-tasmanian-genocide/

  • Resident Dissident

    The Putin regime are moving tanks and other weaponry towards the Ukrainian border and the separatist leader in the Ukraine is claiming on Russian radio that “reinforcements” have already arrived. The similarities with Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968 are there for all to see.

    “According to him, the reserves showed up at the most crucial moment. They were made up of 1200 personnel, who had been trained for four months in the Russian Federation. In addition to the troops, the reinforcements, according to Zakharchenko, included 30 tanks and 120 armoured vehicles. A video of the speech by of the head of the government of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic was posted online.”

    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-180-the-battle-for-lugansk-begins/

  • fred

    @RoS

    If you wish to enter into debate on forums of this kind could you please at least learn the correct way to format your posts. You have attributed words to me which I did not say.

    If Salmond met Murdoch on official government business on a trip financed by the tax payer then yes, the tax payer does have a right to know what was said and there should be minutes of the meeting.

    This is not a difficult concept to grasp and I am a loss to understand why you are having so much difficulty understanding it.

  • Republicofscotland

    The REAL axis of evil isn’t some far off dictatorship,no the real axis of evil is Westminster and Washington, whenever Washington desires to instigate a war somewhere around the world, on (Brown people) its (For want of better words)its, “little Bitch”, Westminster, is quick to follow Washington’s lead.

    Of course Westminster is no stranger to mass murder and slaughter, some of these atrocities make what Israel’s doing to Gaza just now seem like, peanuts.

    http://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/

  • Ben-American Fascist Flechette

    ” The similarities with Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968 are there for all to see.”

    An unbelievably stupid comparison, but expected nonetheless.

  • Jemand

    Looks like those evening English language classes are starting to show some results, Herr Nevermind. Pity your commentary is still incomprehensible, tho. Are you still peddling that Stormfront myth about American occupying forces having committed genocide against your beloved Wehrmacht during the cleanup of WWII? I would have expected an old wolf like yourself to be wiser than to poke his head out in support of a jew hunter after having embarrassed himself with that gaffe.

  • Republicofscotland

    Hey Freddy boy.

    Seen any spaceships over Scotland yet? I guess you’ve more chance of seeing Salmond in disguise on Shetland, haven’t you,then again.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Baal Zevul-Komodo writes

    “I don’t like his {ie, Salmond’s}flirtation with Murdoch, but if he didn’t flirt, the opposition would.”
    ___________________

    So that’s OK then.

    According to that “reasoning” : if the UK did not sell arms to various dictatorships, someone else would. It is therefore OK for the UK to sell those arms.

    Correct, Baal-Komodo?

    B

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Ben (Californian Ignoramus) writes, à propos Rissuan troop movements on the Ukraine border) :

    “” The similarities with Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968 are there for all to see.”

    An unbelievably stupid comparison”
    _________________

    Could you make an effort and explain why, in your opinion, that comparison is “unbelievably stupid”?

  • Republicofscotland

    @Jemand.

    Looks like those evening English language classes are starting to show some results, Herr Nevermind. Pity your commentary is still incomprehensible, tho. Are you still peddling that Stormfront myth about American occupying forces having committed genocide against your beloved Wehrmacht during the cleanup of WWII? I would have expected an old wolf like yourself to be wiser than to poke his head out in support of a jew hunter after having embarrassed himself with that gaffe.
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    Take a look at this.

    [craigmurray.org.uk – links to Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic sites broken; link location retained for the record]

    rense.com/general46/germ.htm

    Or even this

    ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    RepublicofScotland (14h08)

    You may have misread my comments and in particular that part which said

    “No Eminence or Useful Idiot here has yet disappeared, lost his job or been jailed or otherwise harassed by the police.”

    Note the word “here”, which means this blog, used as an example that free speech is permitted in this free country.

    The various links you kindly offered refer to the Birmingham Six, Jean-Charles Menezes, Dr David Kelly and nurse Jacintha Saldanha.

    All unfortunate and deplorable affairs, certainly, and injustices either in the judicial or the (much) wider sense of the word, but they have nothing to do with living in a free country and freedom of speech, which I was writing about.

    Either you are too ignorant to see that or then you are merely being mischievous.

  • Republicofscotland

    You may have misread my comments and in particular that part which said

    “No Eminence or Useful Idiot here has yet disappeared, lost his job or been jailed or otherwise harassed by the police.”

    Note the word “here”, which means this blog, used as an example that free speech is permitted in this free country.

    The various links you kindly offered refer to the Birmingham Six, Jean-Charles Menezes, Dr David Kelly and nurse Jacintha Saldanha.

    All unfortunate and deplorable affairs, certainly, and injustices either in the judicial or the (much) wider sense of the word, but they have nothing to do with living in a free country and freedom of speech, which I was writing about.

    Either you are too ignorant to see that or then you are merely being mischievous.

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    So according to your logic as long as there’s freedom of speech on the internet, and this blog, in the UK, we are somehow living in a democracy.

    You really are naive, this is what happens to YOUR democracy, in the UK when you speak the truth on the net.

    You really do need to WAKE UP!

    http://chrisspivey.org/the-high-cost-of-free-speech/

    Still waiting on your answer to my question. What country are you from?

  • nevermind the airl;ift what about Palestine?

    more of the same Pfft. and in his usual whinginess, spiffing Schleim for all its worth.
    pfft pfft and another pfft, there must be a nest of pfft’s somewhere, should we open a virtual window? for some fresh air and/or for them to take a hike.

  • fred

    “Ireland is on it. Scotland?”

    I’m afraid we are at a bit of a bit of a disadvantage there Ben.

    Israel’s main export is fruit, we never sold too much of that to start with.

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