Between 4 and 20 August the Saudi Arabian government beheaded 19 people. Saudi Arabia, which has funded and armed ISIS from inception (initially with CIA support), is now bombing alongside the USA in Iraq and Syria.
Forget the war technology porn regularly being broadcast by western media, with those spectacular photos of missiles erupting from ships into the night sky. Those missiles and bombs eviscerate and maim innocents as well as combatants, children as well as terrorists. The West always first denies, then regrets, “collateral damage”. The propaganda can be laughable. During the invasion of Iraq I remember a news propaganda item about how a cruise missile can enter a specific window, being followed by the next item – the US had apologised to Syria for two missiles aimed at Iraq which had hit Syria by accident.
If we can accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy in Serbia, we can – and do – hit civilian homes near the proposed target. Being eviscerated by a piece of flying shrapnel is no less terrible than being beheaded by a jihadist. Let us not pretend that our violence is somehow nicer. Children will be dying under our bombs soon.
Other than the two extraordinary crazed Nigerians, there have been no recent Islamic motivated terrorist attacks in the UK and even a slowdown in the propaganda of phoney attacks. This was a threat to the major financial interests of the security industry, in both its governmental and private branches.
There can be no greater nonsense than the idea that the Caliphate poses a direct threat to the UK. This is even more crazy than the claim that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the UK. But by seeking to join in the bombing campaign, and initiating a new round of fake “anti-terror” arrests in London, the British government is doing everything it possibly can do to try to provoke terrorist violence on British streets. The interests of the security state are therefore secured. I am longing for somebody to explain to me the precise mechanism by which our bombing Islamic countries helps prevent terrorist incidents in the UK. The way it can provoke such incidents seems to me too obvious to need stating. Indeed it says a great deal for the wisdom and tolerance of Britain’s Muslim communities that it has not provoked more. They could teach government a great deal about the good sense of not resorting to violence to gratify passions and earn short term acclaim.
Mr Goss
“…but when it comes to something factual and accurate it is too much for them to absorb.”
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Well I knew you wouldn’t read it Habbabkuk. I doubt you’ve read anything since you were reading Noddy. Not if your intellect is anything to go by.
Intellectuals would at least make some attempt to dismantle the arguments in the article. But then they would understand them too. So not much chance for you, Noddy. 🙂
RoS
“I thought Neanderthals were extinct Oh well.”
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Are you in self-denial, RoS?
Together with Holocaust denial, that is.
Indeed you haven’t.. Must be because you’re such a tolerant, balanced, sane sort of chappie.
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I was wondering when you’d intervene to bolster you minion Fred,of course, you being the Organ Grinder and Fred being the monkey, you both go hand in hand, a match made in heaven.
Mr Goss
“Intellectuals would at least make some attempt to dismantle the arguments in the article. But then they would understand them too.”
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There wouldn’t be enough hours in the day for me to read all the links you and your fellow Eminences spatter all over this blog, Mr Goss.
Anyway, why bother? It’d just be the same as reading the stuff you post; after all, they’re where you get all your ideas from, aren’t they?
“Glasgow, pro-Palestinian activists shut down Thales UK factory who make drones tied to the slaughter in Gaza by the murderous Israeli’s. The brave few even hung a Palestinian flag from the building.”
What’s on your house? A swastika I expect.
Iain
I would write to congratulate Hoey, I have done before, except she is ignoring me these days. Ever since I asked her about TTIP. Our fragile relationship deteriorated into silence. She ignores my attempts to make up.
You probably wouldn’t look out of place in Edinburgh Zoo, knuckle dragging Neo Nazi thick shit Holocaust denying retard.
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Remember Fred, every time you insult me always add your motto at the end Rule Britannia, God save the Queen, all the other Neo Nazi groups do, NF, BNP, EDL, O/O, you musn’t let the side now, there’s a good boy.
RoS
“The brave few even hung a Palestinian flag from the building.”
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Why “brave”, O Perspiring One? Was it a tall building?
“Remember Fred, every time you insult me always add your motto at the end Rule Britannia, God save the Queen, all the other Neo Nazi groups do, NF, BNP, EDL, O/O, you musn’t let the side now, there’s a good boy.”
I was the one arguing against your Holocaust denying posts remember.
Anti-Semitic cunt.
Kempe
“…at least those executed in Saudi Arabia get some form of trial and rape victims in India also have recourse to the law. Actually the incidence of rape in India is quite low, 2.0 per 100,000 compared to 24.1 per 100,000 in the UK.”
Women are beheaded in Saudi Arabia for failing to live up to insane morality laws of abusive hypocrites. e.g. For having a fling. You may find this acceptable because it is “the law”, I do not.
India is a religiously driven apartheid state. At the bottom of the caste system the Dalit have virtually no recourse to law. Rape is routinely used against Dalit. Children are disproportionately raped in India. Women groups say the army and the police are amongst the worst rape offenders. Dalit rapes do not make the statistics you found on Wikipedia.
In Indian law a husband cannot rape his wife. These rapes do not make the statistics you found on Wikipedia.
Rape victims in India face a lifetime of stigma that makes marriage next to impossible. This further distorts the statistics you found on Wikipedia.
Your comment reminds me that stats once proved there was no rape in the USSR.
On September 19, 2014, Hugh Eakin, a Zionist propagandist penned an Op-Ed at the New York Times in which he questioned the wisdom of Swedish Social Democratic Party coalition government’s open-door immigration policy for the Syrians fleeing the Zionist War declared by the United States and its western and Arab allies for the last three years.
According to Eakin Swedish taxpayers would be spending additional $7 billion to accommodate the Syrian refugees seeking political asylum in Sweden. He says that Sweden has already accommodated 40,000 Syrian refugees and could be expecting another 80,000 by the end of 2014. He claims Sweden has double-digit youth unemployment and this money should be used to create new employment opportunities.
Eakin real agenda for criticizing Sweden’s pro-immigration policy which is based on cheap labor – but his fear that a larger Arab presence in the European country could debunk Israeli lies about Arabs and Muslims in particular, immigrants trying to Islamize the West.
Never mind that there is double-digit youth unemployment among Black and Latino Americans, Washington provides $6-16 billion each year to Israel in military aid, grants and soft loans.
Never mind 1 in 3 Israeli children lives in poverty, the Zionist entity has highest military budget ($13.9 billion) in the Middle East based on population. In addition it receives $3 billion US military aid per year.
Never mind Israel has one of the highest GDP in the Middle East, and the only rich country that receives 46% of total USAID – it donates only -10.1% in aid to world’s poor nations as compared to Turkey’s 98.7% as per OECD report.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/26/nyt-sweden-should-not-accept-syrian-refugees/
What’s on your house? A swastika I expect.
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Poor wee Fred he hasn’t post one constructive comment in a while now, his small mind, is over occupied by insulting me. Ah well,some people are so easily amused.
” I have done before, except she is ignoring me these days. Ever since I asked her about TTIP. Our fragile relationship deteriorated into silence. She ignores my attempts to make up.”
Phil; . I suspect economics plays a part in her decision to resist spending more money on the sinkhole that is the ME. It’s not good for the UK, but TTIP–huzzah.
“Bringing democracy to the Middle East will not happen overnight, but could take generations, says retired Major-General Tim Cross”
‘Independant’
False narrative, lies lies and more lies.
Why “brave”, O Perspiring One? Was it a tall building?
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Habb the Testy Torturer
What would a tall building have to with being brave, strange line of questioning, is the organ grinder feeling unwell?
“Poor wee Fred he hasn’t post one constructive comment in a while now, his small mind, is over occupied by insulting me. Ah well,some people are so easily amused.”
Racist Holocaust denying Anti-Semitic scum retard.
And you lost the referendum.
Loser.
Republicofscotland – Swastika is a great Hindu religious symbol, which tens of millions of Hindu have outside or inside their homes. Now since Israel has a “friend” Modi as prime minister of India – Jews should put swastika in synagogues.
The Jewish Lobby has planned to honor Indian prime minister Narendra Modi by inviting him to address the joint session of Congress during a visit to Washington in September. The Lobby had declared Modi Israel’s best friend in Asia during his election campaign.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/06/22/us-jew-lawmakers-want-to-honor-narendra-modi/
Tired of this blog bitching at eachother.
The swastika is traced all the way back to Chaldea; again the ME leads the charge.
After all, it was the Cradle of Civilization.
RoS
Habbabkuk reminds me of his cousin Donald Duck. Always quacking but never making any sense.
As for Fred, he doesn’t seem to realise that his resort to swearing and insults shows everybody that he has lost the debate
John
Thanks for posting that article… connecting some dots and removing a few question marks but how deeply depressing that all these representatives of the British people can not figure out just where all this is ultimately leading…its incomprehensible… Its really the Age of Delusion
Sophie (&co RT today) was interviewing Peter Schiff
-Blind faith in dollar will lead world to financial Armageddon – leading financial analyst-
SS: But if you look at all the geopolitical turmoil across the world, you have the crisis in Ukraine, you have the Middle East, you have ISIS – it does seem that to a large extent the markets are shrugging it all off too – why is that?
PS: I think a lot of people are delusional. They believe in this false narrative, they have confidence in what the Federal Reserve has done, the believe the forecasts of many of the economists about vibrant growth in the U.S. economy in years ahead, and of how Fed will raise interest rates, and the economy continues to expand. All that is impossible. The Federal Reserve has placed itself into position where they can never raise any interest rates – in fact, I don’t think they’re going to be able to go very long without launching another round of quantitative easing, because our bubble economy is completely dependent on the continuation of that policy. When the Fed takes it away, we’re headed for a massive economic collapse.
“Poor wee Fred he hasn’t post one constructive comment in a while now, his small mind, is over occupied by insulting me. Ah well,some people are so easily amused.”
What debate sunshine?
This aint no debate this is a flame war. I gave up trying to debate with retards.
You want some?
Pete Fairhurst
“!As for Fred, he doesn’t seem to realise that his resort to swearing and insults shows everybody that he has lost the debate”
No it doesn’t. Just shows he’s sick of overtly racist cunts like you and ros.
Many thanks for Jeremy Corbyn’s contribution, Iain Orr. A refreshing reminder that not quite all MP’s are braindead party hacks who see war as a welcome distraction from their own incompetence and ignorance. As Dennis Skinner remarked, IMO optimistically, when reprimanded by the Speaker for saying that half the bench opposite were liars…’I apologise. Half the members opposite aren’t liars’
Completely OT, I’ve just patched my Linux system against the new* vulnerability, ‘Shellshock’. There is a hard way (which involves a lot of faffing about with source.list and other folders in /etc/apt) and there is an easy way which uses a Debian repository and the correct use of apt-get. Bash appears to be completely replaced with the patched version, so it takes a while. Details on request.
*Old, in fact. It’s just that no-one has noticed it until recently.
Baal
“Details on request.”
Yes please.
RT-
“Hundreds of Muslims have gathered near the Grand Mosque in Paris to condemn the execution of the French tourist, Herve Gourdel, by Islamic State-linked jihadists and the rise of Islamophobia caused by it.
The demonstrators were holding up placards, reading “”Tribute to Herve Gourdel” and “God is merciful” as well as signs with NotInMyName hastag.
The crowd chanted “Islam for peace,” with French officials and representatives from the Parisian Arab community present at the event.
“We French Muslims say stop to barbarism, stop to terrorism,” Dalil Boubakeur, head of the French Council of the Muslim Faith, said during the rally.
“The wheel of madness in Iraq goes round and round.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWilLiQEOjk&index=1&list=UUGThM-ZZBba1Zl9rU-XeR-A
REHMAT
Good article thanks for the link.
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Peter Fairhurst
Thanks Peter, maybe Fred has some issues, I don’t really know.
If you’ve got a long-tern supported Ubuntu (12.04 or 14.04):
Terminal:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install –only-upgrade bash
For Mint Nadia, this worked (from Linux forums:)
In software Sources add update the cache.
In the terminal (not the Software source manager) then
You will find there are a lot of upgrades and some that won’t install. Say yes to the updates and yes when it come to the ‘bash change questions’
Then when the upgrades have been installed, untick the ‘ftp sid main’ and update the cache and again in the terminal
You may notice that there’s a hell of a lot wrong with your sources.list if you have an unsupported Debian-based Linux. For Ubuntu this is because everything formerly in security and archive repositories has now been transferred to old-releases. But that’s a different issue. Enjoy. Not. You can find a test string to check whether it’s worked – or if you need it all – with the aid of Uncle Google / Shellshock + your distro.