The Rush to Violence 933


Between 4 and 20 August the Saudi Arabian government beheaded 19 people. Saudi Arabia, which has funded and armed ISIS from inception (initially with CIA support), is now bombing alongside the USA in Iraq and Syria.

Forget the war technology porn regularly being broadcast by western media, with those spectacular photos of missiles erupting from ships into the night sky. Those missiles and bombs eviscerate and maim innocents as well as combatants, children as well as terrorists. The West always first denies, then regrets, “collateral damage”. The propaganda can be laughable. During the invasion of Iraq I remember a news propaganda item about how a cruise missile can enter a specific window, being followed by the next item – the US had apologised to Syria for two missiles aimed at Iraq which had hit Syria by accident.

If we can accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy in Serbia, we can – and do – hit civilian homes near the proposed target. Being eviscerated by a piece of flying shrapnel is no less terrible than being beheaded by a jihadist. Let us not pretend that our violence is somehow nicer. Children will be dying under our bombs soon.

Other than the two extraordinary crazed Nigerians, there have been no recent Islamic motivated terrorist attacks in the UK and even a slowdown in the propaganda of phoney attacks. This was a threat to the major financial interests of the security industry, in both its governmental and private branches.

There can be no greater nonsense than the idea that the Caliphate poses a direct threat to the UK. This is even more crazy than the claim that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the UK. But by seeking to join in the bombing campaign, and initiating a new round of fake “anti-terror” arrests in London, the British government is doing everything it possibly can do to try to provoke terrorist violence on British streets. The interests of the security state are therefore secured. I am longing for somebody to explain to me the precise mechanism by which our bombing Islamic countries helps prevent terrorist incidents in the UK. The way it can provoke such incidents seems to me too obvious to need stating. Indeed it says a great deal for the wisdom and tolerance of Britain’s Muslim communities that it has not provoked more. They could teach government a great deal about the good sense of not resorting to violence to gratify passions and earn short term acclaim.


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  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    It seems the West’s strategy is doing nothing for Ukrainian currency and hungary is not going to carry their water for them.

    “Hungary’s FGSZ, a pipeline operator that imports gas from Russia, has announced it is suspending gas deliveries to Ukraine indefinitely, following talks between Gazprom and Hungarian PM Viktor Orban.

    Orban has been sharply critical of EU sanctions on Russia and is heavily dependent on them for energy. Winter is coming, and Orban says he will not allow his country’s energy supplies to be in jeopardy because of a dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, Russia and Ukraine are moving closer to a preliminary agreement, with Ukraine to pay $3.1 billion in existing debts to Gazprom and receive deliver of another 5 billion cubic meters at $385 per 1,000.”

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Afrend

    “We are blessed with many new people writing comments. It’s time to flog my goat again.

    Would you rather not waste your life reading certain comments?

    Improve your Craig Murray blog experience with Habbabreak.”
    _________________-

    “It’s time…etc”. Delicious!

    You’ve been peeking at my posts again, haven’t you, Komodo-Baal… 🙂

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Scorgie

    “Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    25 Sep, 2014 – 11:14 pm

    “Guano (23h02) Do you often wipe Mr Scorgie’s backside for him?”
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    I have a butler to do that Habbabkuk, just like the Queen.”

    _________________________

    Maybe so, Doug, but does your butler have Guano’s delicately nuanced touch and is the paper he uses triple-ply to cater for your “sensitivities”…?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Goss

    “The torture camp at Guantanamo Bay, which Noddy did not want to see closed down..”

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    Can you reference that assertion, you old Stalinist?

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    GCHQ; are we blog-flies a threat? Not drunk enough?

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Anon1

    I can help you with the question you put to Afrend:

    “You still haven’t addressed my question. Why do you need to install software to prevent yourself from seeing Habbabkuk’s comments when you coukd quite simply skip past them? Have you no self-control?”
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    Well, Captain Komodo-Baal (cashiered) does have some self-control because he does in fact read my posts, as a couple of his “interventions” have shown.

    A self-control made easier by the fact that he has no answers to the points I make.

    Sensing the menacing presence of someone with considerably more intellectual firepower and critical insight than he himself can muster, he prefers to pretend that he hasn’t seen my comments and questions. And, in order not to stick out like a sore thumb, he spends time on here hawking his tawdry wares.

    Easy-peasy!

    Despite his pretensions, definitely NOT officer material.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Ben (California Nazi, Friend of the Great Holocaust Denier RoS):

    “, John. BRICS is the fundamental key; the death of the Petrodollar…while it’s on a ventilator waiting for the plug to get pulled.”
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    In the unlikely event that you are right, Ben (I wonder how long you’ve been predicting that?), has it occurred to you that you too – as a resident of California, I believe – will disappear down the plughole?

    Now that doesn’t upset me, but I do feel sorry for the dirty bathwater, soapy scum and the occasional pubic hair which will perforce accompany you down said plughole.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mr Goss

    “..they will get rid of them and put in a puppet (calling it democratically elected).”
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    From which I think most people would infer that for Mr Goss, any democratically elected leader is a “puppet”.

    That is a very Stalinist approach to politics, Mr Goss.

    But then, you are a Stalinist, aren’t you; your repentance is only skin-deep.

  • Republicofscotland

    I’ve been posting randomly today, calling for most of parliament to be arrested. This is a controversial viewpoint, if legally accurate. ‘Cause facts are lies these days, ‘innit. Where did all the smart people go? They should be speaking out. Evidently, few are in parliament. Weird.
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    Brendan

    I couldn’t agree more Brendan, Westminster isn’t fit for purpose, the first scent of an illegal war and bang, the warmongering politicians, are up with pound signs in their wee beady eyes.

    And from the outside, of the UK, it looks as though most residents of the UK, have agreed to the illegal bombing of Iraq, and eventually Syria, as well, when its more than likely most UK folk would oppose bombing.

    Bombing only creates more angry and bitter enemies, in the long run, then again the “Axis of Evil” Washington, Westminster Tel Aviv et al, don’t want peace, there’s no profit in peace.

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    ‘There seems to be a consensus here that there will be boots on the ground. The only question is; whose boots?”

    George Galloway.

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    I’m sure the keyboard commandos will be the first to volunteer. Hab? Anon?

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    The only means to ending war will be when they draft people over 40. Leave the youngsters out of it.

  • Republicofscotland

    Under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, with president Obama chairing the Council session, the United States has called upon the international community to adopt strong measures, at national and international levels, to curtail the recruitment of Islamic State fighters.

    What is not mentioned in the media reports is that the heads of State and heads of government who have endorsed America’s campaign against the Islamic State, advised by their respective secret services, are fully aware that US intelligence is the unspoken architect of the Islamic State, which is part of a vast network of US supported “jihadist” terrorist entities. Countries are either coerced into supporting the US sponsored resolution or they are complicit in the US terror agenda.

    Lest we forget, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, have been financing and training the ISIL terrorists on behalf of the United States. Israel is harbouring the Islamic State (ISIL) in the Golan Heights, NATO in liaison with the Turkish high command has since March 2011 been involved in coordinating the recruitment of the jihadist fighters dispatched to Syria. Moreover, the ISIL brigades in both Syria and Iraq are integrated by Western special forces and military advisers.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-terrorists-r-us-the-islamic-state-big-lie-and-the-criminalization-of-the-united-nations/5404146

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    Chickenhawks talk the talk, but not the walk.

  • Juteman

    I think this post from the last thread is interesting.

    Fred says, “I’ve got an idea. The bits of Scotland which voted that they would rather be independent let them. Let’s face it, it was just the bits where racism and sectarianism is rife, the bits with separate football teams for Catholics. Surely we could manage fine without them.”

    Make your own mind up.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Rehmat

    Could you please stop using this blog to gain publicity for your own blog?

    This is not an advertising hoarding, you know.

    That old Stalinist Mr Goss used to do the same thing, but after I remonstrated with him he appears to have given up the practice.

    Publicising your own blog on here is awfully bad form, you know.

  • fred

    “I think this post from the last thread is interesting.”

    So do you want to be independent or not?

    If you’ve changed your mind and decided you like being British after all it doesn’t bother me at all. I just thought it was a way for everybody to get what they want.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Rehmat

    Especially as your own blog appears to be an anti-Semitic, Jew-hating blog.

    Craig has already put you on notice for your persistent anti-Semitism and a certain Holocaust denier recently on here managed to get two entire threads deleted because of the obnoxious nature of his ravings.

  • Republicofscotland

    An interesting book “A Jew in the ‘service’ of the Reich” which shed some light over the war-mongering western powers around the world. It is the autobiography of a Ukrainian-born Russian Jew spy Jacob Ingerman. Ingerman infiltrated Nazi Army during WW II and spied for the Red Army.
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    Rehmat

    A interesting read,a look from another perspective, something often lacking in here, yours is also an interesting blog, I think I’ll bookmark it, for further reading. Thanks.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    RepublicOfWetDreams

    You will neither read the book nor bookmark Rehmat’s blog, because you’re just being silly and trying to get a rise out of me. 🙂

    Must try harder!

  • Republicofscotland

    You will neither read the book nor bookmark Rehmat’s blog, because you’re just being silly and trying to get a rise out of me. 🙂

    Must try harder!
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    HABB the Tasteless Torturer.

    My dear chap, whatever do you mean?

  • Peacewisher

    @Phil:

    The People’s Republic of Fallujah was set up after Saddam’s regime had toppled. It didn’t follow the expected parameters of a people under occupation with society being rebuilt the American Way. There’s no reference to it on a google search but you may remember a major battle between US and local forces in late 2004. What was starting to happen to Donetsk a few months ago happened to full destruction in Fallujah. What was never fully explained was why it was targeted so brutally, other than the fact that they didn’t bow down to the rules of occupation.

    Maybe you could find out something more about it if you dig deep.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Bluff, Double Bluff and Illusion..and really awful stuff going on that is definitely true. The Propaganda at Terrorising Us (From Our Media and Government) is so powerful to people who watch TV and read Newspapers…that the vote to Bomb Iraq again was voted by our MP’s at a rate of more than 10-1. Yet two British planes were reported to have taken off from Cyprus with support air tanker to supposedly bomb Iraq’s ISIL…and it was a seat of your pants job – with no clear direction, no targets and no anything..see if there is anything worth bombing in the desert?? I mean this is really amateurish stuff isn’t it??

    Meanwhile, if some of the reports are true ISIL supposedly are embedded in The Golan Heights having replaced the Free Syrian Army – cos they were fed up with being bombing by Israel next door..and Israel shoots down a Syrian Government MIG supposedly trying to bomb ISIL – which should in theory – be Israel’s main enemy…and they have been there since June, and ISIL have neither attacked Israel..just across the border..and Israel hasn’t attacked them…

    So what is going on – apart from the fact that we are being terrorised (or the people who read the media and watch TV are) and really bad stuff has been going on in Eastern Ukraine and Gaza??

    My family and a lot of my friends have always travelled a lot..cos that is the only real way you find out what the world is actually like.

    North Africa and Turkey are incredibly cheap for holidays at the moment…cos most people are too frightened to go there in case they end up in a head chopping video. I can understand that..but within the last 24 hours 3 people have told me…well we are going… Are they brave, daft, or innocent. I am not going to put them off. We have always done the same ourselves…and have been told – What the hell are you thinking of…its not safe…Not had my head chopped off yet. I’m sure its safer than a week in the Isle of Man on a motorbike.

    Tony

  • Tony M

    It is interesting Juteman. ‘Fred’ clearly has no clue whatever about Scotland as racism and sectarianism are the signature traits of the unionist/loyalist supporting elements, the nominally RC minority in Scotland numbering about 600,000 over-whelmingly the victims of protestant hate crimes, more so even than racial minorities, though both sectarian and racist crimes on the whole originated from the same far-right affiliated loyalist fringe he idolises. He did on here in the past try to represent increased figures for sectarian incidents targetting that minority, recorded as white on white as being anti-English when it was made clear along with the release of the statistics, that increased reporting and recording of sectarian incidents had became mandatory, and that police forces largely in the past institutionally disinterested, tainted with collusion, had in recent years with legislative changes, been required to take the matter more seriously; the figures showed it was mostly a one-way street.

    A thoroughly nasty sort indeed, with a quite obvious agenda of misrepresenting facts, total inversion of them infact, and sowing discord. He obviously has a rather shady past and connection with these bigoted persons and groups, as these sort of extreme views do not spontaneously arise, but are inculcated in impressionable children and youth without the moral discernment or intelligence to reject it.

  • John Goss

    “Mr Goss used to do the same thing, but after I remonstrated with him he appears to have given up the practice.”

    Anybody wishing to see my blog only needs to click on my blue name. But most people know this Noddy.

  • fred

    “What was never fully explained was why it was targeted so brutally, other than the fact that they didn’t bow down to the rules of occupation.”

    I seem to remember something about some American contractors being murdered, their bodies dragged through the streets before being hung on a bridge for trophy photos.

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