Between 4 and 20 August the Saudi Arabian government beheaded 19 people. Saudi Arabia, which has funded and armed ISIS from inception (initially with CIA support), is now bombing alongside the USA in Iraq and Syria.
Forget the war technology porn regularly being broadcast by western media, with those spectacular photos of missiles erupting from ships into the night sky. Those missiles and bombs eviscerate and maim innocents as well as combatants, children as well as terrorists. The West always first denies, then regrets, “collateral damage”. The propaganda can be laughable. During the invasion of Iraq I remember a news propaganda item about how a cruise missile can enter a specific window, being followed by the next item – the US had apologised to Syria for two missiles aimed at Iraq which had hit Syria by accident.
If we can accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy in Serbia, we can – and do – hit civilian homes near the proposed target. Being eviscerated by a piece of flying shrapnel is no less terrible than being beheaded by a jihadist. Let us not pretend that our violence is somehow nicer. Children will be dying under our bombs soon.
Other than the two extraordinary crazed Nigerians, there have been no recent Islamic motivated terrorist attacks in the UK and even a slowdown in the propaganda of phoney attacks. This was a threat to the major financial interests of the security industry, in both its governmental and private branches.
There can be no greater nonsense than the idea that the Caliphate poses a direct threat to the UK. This is even more crazy than the claim that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the UK. But by seeking to join in the bombing campaign, and initiating a new round of fake “anti-terror” arrests in London, the British government is doing everything it possibly can do to try to provoke terrorist violence on British streets. The interests of the security state are therefore secured. I am longing for somebody to explain to me the precise mechanism by which our bombing Islamic countries helps prevent terrorist incidents in the UK. The way it can provoke such incidents seems to me too obvious to need stating. Indeed it says a great deal for the wisdom and tolerance of Britain’s Muslim communities that it has not provoked more. They could teach government a great deal about the good sense of not resorting to violence to gratify passions and earn short term acclaim.
Re. Cyprus Tornadoes ; the GR4 can operate interchangeably with the GR4a reconnaissance version. And the later Paveway bombs are extremely expensive – you wouldn’t use one on a guy with a camel. At a guess, move on, nothing to see except the MSM’s curious obsession with a couple of a/c going out on a recce in a predesignated sector, not finding anything worth wasting costly ordnance on, and bringing said ordnance back for another day.
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It would appear the 2nd war on Iraq, has begun not with a bang as before, but with a game of “Hide and Seek.”
Surprising as I’m pretty sure dedicated satellites and Drones will be monitering Iraq 24/7.
With all the mumbo-jumbo about fanaticism, Muslims I think, get this one right.
“It is written” The more I live the more I see the script and stage. Some form of flexible (depending on your thoughts and actions) Determinism maps out our future.
I think the West calls it Existentialism.
Take a moment and reflect..
http://philebersole.wordpress.com/2014/09/28/kurt-vonnegut-jr-on-taking-a-moment/
Anon1 28 Sep, 2014 – 1:56 pm
“So just six RAF Tornado jets are not bombing Iraq because they can’t find any targets and the Murrayistas are already presenting this as some sort of appalling war crime for which we should all be shamed for all eternity. They’ll be waiting eagle-eyed for the first civilian casualties so they can moan and wail about the evil of the West while Muslims carry on slaughtering thousands of their fellow Muslims”
So, if you were an MP, you would have voted in favour of this war?
Big puffy pieces on the op in Syria. The carrier GHW BUSH is the locus of attacks. Now in the Falklands war, Maggie shit in her drawers because Argentina had been sold Exocets from France.
Were there any sold to the ME? Just Libya, the ammo dump for some of our current troubles.
. [31] Libya’s current missile arsenal is outdated, consisting primarily of Soviet-era Scud B and FROG 7 systems acquired in the 1970s, and French-made Exocet anti-ship missiles.
http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/libya/
Would the bastards sacrifice the carrier to firm up Western support for the continuing conflagration?
Very interesting analysis of available facts on MH17.
“The picture of entry and exit holes in the cockpit area (control cabin) of the Boeing 777 fully corresponds to the assumption that it was caused by being shot through by approximately 20-30mm rounds from a fighter cannon. This supports the second version of the crash. The same can be said about the nature of fragment distribution over the fuselage of the plane. From the left side the edges of fragments of the control cabin fuselage are rolled up from inside to outside, which points at significant damage inside the cabin as a result of dynamic pressure of missiles over its right side.
There are characteristic entrance holes and several exit holes visible on the fuselage. The edges of the holes are bent inwards, they are much smaller and are round-shaped. Exit holes are less precisely shaped, and their edges are bent outwards. Additionally, it is visible that the exit holes pierced the aluminum covering twice and bent it outwards. I.e., the striking elements (judging by the impact type, aircraft missile rounds) broke through the cockpit. Open rivets were also bent outwards.
Boeing 777 fragment Fuselage damage is clearly visible – break through holes, caused by a 20- to 30-mm cannon.
Distinctive inward bends of the fuselage indicate a cannon round impact.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185484.html
“Wouldn’t you? Western policy is forcing all sorts of bizarre arrangements. Though I would like to see the reason for your belief, beyond mere assertion. Possibly this has to do with bidirectional smuggling across the Turkish borders? In which case he’s buying from Turkish smugglers. One way to stop him enriching IS, or even doing clandestine deals with them, might be to lift the sanctions conditionally. Or would that be unacceptably logical?”
Syria’s oil pipelines have been sabotaged and their refineries are captured or broken, parts to fix them are sanctioned, there have been grave petrol shortages for a long time and prices are through the roof. If Assad can buy petrol he has no choice but to buy it as where it comes from. ISIL need cash, they have an army to run and America is cutting off their funding, if they can sell petrol or crude they sell it as who the buyer is. It’s been estimated they’re making over a million dollars a day shifting oil and fuel around the Middle East in drums on the backs of Toyota pickups.
No, this is what a 30 mm cannon strike looks like, the top one.
https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/dcd670269eec78387256c132c0920000.jpg
Holes in MH17 indicate impacts by irregularly shaped shrapnel.
Get over it.
Shorter Kempe; “I said it. Live with it” LOL.
Peacewisher
“I’ve just listened to a report from Denmark, where the public are oven more gung-ho, again because they are worried they will be targeted at home by ISIS.”
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Well, perhaps their perception is shaped by that lamentable affair a few years ago when a Muslim fanatic broke into the home of the editor of the newspaper which published the “Mohammed cartoons” and tried to kill him?
(Cue for various Imbeciles here to chorus “he deserved it”?)
Resoidentofscotland
“Meanwhile a Tory MP named Reckless, (an apt title for a Tory if ever there was one) has defected to UKIP, I wish these MP’s would defect a little bit further a field, to lets say China, think of the money we could save.”
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Funny, that. I was rather hoping that you’d do the same (China, Venezuela, Russia or wherever), think of the reams of utter junk we wouldn’t have to scroll through on here.
Anon1
“They’ll be waiting eagle-eyed for the first civilian casualties so they can moan and wail about the evil of the West while Muslims carry on slaughtering thousands of their fellow Muslims.”
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Well said, yet again!
You are an indispensable element in the fight against idiocy on here.
Which is, of course, why the Eminences and other Useful Idiots get so agitated when they read you.
RsS
“Of course this is all just a ruse which will pave the way for boot on the ground in Iraq, the excuse will be we can’t find to bomb them so in we go.”
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Oh, you’re quite the armchair strategist aren’t you. You should work for Chatham House!
Anyway, I shall remember the above prediction from you and remind you of it with appropriate severity in due course.
Nincompoop!
RoS
“Anti-Semitism on,the rise, why am I not surprised, of course you can blame, the many for the failings of the few.”
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You’re the last person who should be writing about anti-Semitism on here, RoS.
Were you not the provocateur who posted Holocaust-denial remarks on this blog, thereby obliging Craig Murray to delete two entire threads?
Yes, I do believe you were. 🙂
@Habby:
If you are not party of the arms industry, or a power-obsessed politician, or one of those “soldiers who want to be heroes, numbered practically zero”, why would you choose war? The answer has to be some kind of brainwashing, don’t you think?
“I’ve just listened to a report from Denmark, where the public are oven more gung-ho,
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Habb the Tormented Torturer.
I recall you bitching like a little girl about spelling mistakes, and that people shouldn’t take the comment seriously, well Mr “Oven more gung-ho.” whatever the hell that means, I’ve news for you no one takes you seriously anyway.
So, Fred, whatever the route for under-the counter oil, Assad’s forced to buy it clandestinely by sanctions and by the damage already done by the West-sponsored revolution; not – as you appeared to suggest – by any sympathy for IS. Wouldn’t you? And wouldn’t it make sense to get the one marginally capable (still) and potentially committed army* in the region onside against IS by removing/reducing sanctions?
* Did I hear you say Saudi? Want to bet that half those jolly salafists are even notionally engaged against IS? I don’t. And the noble defenders of Poor Little Israel don’t seem to want to hinder IS either.
You’re the last person who should be writing about anti-Semitism on here, RoS.
Were you not the provocateur who posted Holocaust-denial remarks on this blog, thereby obliging Craig Murray to delete two entire threads?
Yes, I do believe you were.
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Habb the Tantrum filled Torturer
If you had bothered to read my following comment, you’d have noticed I mean’t CAN’T and not CAN, but you, in you over zealous pontificating manner, jumped the gun, as per usual, can’t you get anything right? Apparently not.
Twitter #stopthewar seems to be gathering momentum, anon1.
Why don’t you put some of your negativity on there… and see what you get back?
Be amazed and watch the entire 12 minutes of an elephant painting an elephant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQv5mE42Yos
Oh, you’re quite the armchair strategist aren’t you. You should work for Chatham House!
Anyway, I shall remember the above prediction from you and remind you of it with appropriate severity in due course.
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Habb the Treacherous Torturer
Pfft! That’s a bit rich coming from a guy who never puts his head above the parapet, when it comes to predictions, then again I can’t even recall you making a constructive comment.
Unless of course you include your infamous condescending tutorial remarks on other comments.
I must admit at least other forum users, make useful comments on a wide range of subjects, but not you.
Funny, that. I was rather hoping that you’d do the same (China, Venezuela, Russia or wherever), think of the reams of utter junk we wouldn’t have to scroll through on here.
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Habb the hallucinogenic Torturer.
Again another condescending, and jibberish comment you wait for folk to comment then you critic their comments, but wait I don’t see any comment from you? funny that.
I can only assume that you’re insecure about producing work of your own.
RoS – FFS stop feeding the troll. Please.
RoS – FFS stop feeding the troll. Please.
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I know, I should no better.
Oops! I mean’t Know not No, Aw! you get the picture.
“War is more profitable than peace”.
An economic justification for Orwe1l’s 1984.
Where did capitalism go wrong? Government got corrupted into becoming part of business.
Those who believe in a capitalism where businesses create wealth (i.e. economic), quite separate from government (serving social needs of the people) with government regulating the excesses of capitalism are the only ones who can get us out of this mess. I think this used to be called social democracy.
fred 28 Sep, 2014 – 5:02 pm
“It’s been estimated they’re making over a million dollars a day shifting oil and fuel around the Middle East in drums on the backs of Toyota pickups.”
price of crude = $100 / barrel
7 barrels oil = 1 ton
Toyota pickup payload = ~ 1/2 ton
$payload / pickup = $350
Number of journeys / $1m = 2857 / day
After transport costs = >3000 / day
ISIL head count = 10 – 20K
estimate of ISIL head count in Syria = ~7,500
Must be at least half of ISIL transporting oil, Fred. If they sell any more, there won’t be any left to fight. Maybe the West should just start buying oil from them.
Could it be that the Axis of Evil Washington, Westminster Tel Aviv et al, real goal is a depopulation of the Middle East.?
Depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the Third World. Dr. Henry Kissinger.
After all Thomas Malthus, and his “Iron Law of Population” does seem to fit nicely with whats going on in society today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Essay_on_the_Principle_of_Population
Just for a laugh:
https://twitter.com/PittTheBlogger/status/515959927064764418
I suppose we should just apply “Occams Razor” to whoever come up with the least complicated theory, as to why the west is hell bent on starting wars, which may lead to WWIII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor