Between 4 and 20 August the Saudi Arabian government beheaded 19 people. Saudi Arabia, which has funded and armed ISIS from inception (initially with CIA support), is now bombing alongside the USA in Iraq and Syria.
Forget the war technology porn regularly being broadcast by western media, with those spectacular photos of missiles erupting from ships into the night sky. Those missiles and bombs eviscerate and maim innocents as well as combatants, children as well as terrorists. The West always first denies, then regrets, “collateral damage”. The propaganda can be laughable. During the invasion of Iraq I remember a news propaganda item about how a cruise missile can enter a specific window, being followed by the next item – the US had apologised to Syria for two missiles aimed at Iraq which had hit Syria by accident.
If we can accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy in Serbia, we can – and do – hit civilian homes near the proposed target. Being eviscerated by a piece of flying shrapnel is no less terrible than being beheaded by a jihadist. Let us not pretend that our violence is somehow nicer. Children will be dying under our bombs soon.
Other than the two extraordinary crazed Nigerians, there have been no recent Islamic motivated terrorist attacks in the UK and even a slowdown in the propaganda of phoney attacks. This was a threat to the major financial interests of the security industry, in both its governmental and private branches.
There can be no greater nonsense than the idea that the Caliphate poses a direct threat to the UK. This is even more crazy than the claim that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the UK. But by seeking to join in the bombing campaign, and initiating a new round of fake “anti-terror” arrests in London, the British government is doing everything it possibly can do to try to provoke terrorist violence on British streets. The interests of the security state are therefore secured. I am longing for somebody to explain to me the precise mechanism by which our bombing Islamic countries helps prevent terrorist incidents in the UK. The way it can provoke such incidents seems to me too obvious to need stating. Indeed it says a great deal for the wisdom and tolerance of Britain’s Muslim communities that it has not provoked more. They could teach government a great deal about the good sense of not resorting to violence to gratify passions and earn short term acclaim.
Osborne benefits freeze => Vote Walliband and Cleggit => get Greater Israel from Da’esh.
Mmm! smell that oil, MB suckers. Fresh black oil from under the Euphrates. Mmmm, Nice!
This is the Guardian’s report on the stolen Iranian documents. I no more trust the Guardian on this than I do Iran, and have to reserve judgment along with Kempe. However many in the media today are agents of government and investigative journalists have been replaced by agencies and firms who manufacture the news in the form of video releases (VNRs).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/28/iran-state-tv-accuses-bbc-document-theft-government-archives
FYI ‘Dreoilin’ ‘Fred’ replies with insults without fail, when the outrageous lies, smears and arrant nonsense he posts are exposed as such or when someone attempts to counter his garbage, with facts, with actual knowledge of a subject or simply a different opinion. Your attempt to whitewash his maliciousness and his attempts to sow division, to create it where none exists, is very telling indeed. The term Zionist ‘enablers’ too is very apt in some cases, fake pro-Palestinian concern trolls.
There are more trolls here than there are genuine posters and you are definitely the former, it matters not how long you’ve been posting here or the handle has been used to do so, it only shows that Craig Murray’s blog has been for a long time targeted intensively for this sort of disruption. The fact that you defend and encourage the worst, the most dishonest and disruptive elements, does indeed condemn you utterly.
Alongside the blogroll on the rhs there should be a troll roll, as there isn’t I’ll post again for the benefit of the understandably bewildered, it’s not comprehensive and others may add to it or disagree as they will.
Habbaduk [my spelling] (ringleader, might also be Dreoilin)
Anon and Anon1 (ringleader’s number 1 acolyte, does a poor show of mock outrage)
Resident Dissident / ESLO (must kiss establishment arse or face deportation to Banderastan)
Canspeccy (weird racial supremacist type)
Jemand (weird racial supremacist type)
Fred (Neo-nazi ‘hippy’ with ulster loyalist connections)
Dreoilin (nowhere near Ireland that’s for sure, maybe Cheltenham)
Republicofscotland (Doug Scorgie nailed this one early one, discredits causes by association with extreme right-wing views)
Gutter (pretend happy clappy lefty, the new Fred, status quo serves it well, does it for the money)
Kempe (only rarely rational, zionist supremacist getting worse under Anon’s tutelage)
There are others I won’t name who for whatever reason serve only to distract with offtopic diversions, posting rambling nonsense, music videos and so on, as if this was some irc #lounge chatroom, who know who they are.
Damn them Humans ( Esp Shaolin Warrior Types ) Can be such Gracefull things –
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204090101230982&set=vb.1178454811&type=2&theater
“Habbaduk [my spelling] (ringleader, might also be Dreoilin)”
“Dreoilin (nowhere near Ireland that’s for sure, maybe Cheltenham)”
Is amadán den chéad scoth tú. Ba chóir duit bheith san oispidéal.
“FYI ‘Dreoilin’ ‘Fred’ replies with insults without fail, when the outrageous lies, smears and arrant nonsense he posts are exposed as such or when someone attempts to counter his garbage, with facts, with actual knowledge of a subject or simply a different opinion.”
Well you fucking bigoted cunt. Got the monopoly on truth have you? Well fuck you retard.
Fred, there are some people here with such massive opinions of themselves, they think they have to right to tell others who to read, who to believe, and who to discard.
IMO, Tony M has shown himself to be off the wall, and one of the above.
Annual savings from George Osborne’s benefits freeze = £3bn
Official cost of the bank bailout = £850bn (Node)
Cost of Afghan intervention (military expenditure only) to 2013 = £25bn
Cost of Syria/Iraq intervention to ? = £?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/30/afghanistan-war-cost-britain-37bn-book
Though British and other foreign troops were sent to Afghanistan to stop al-Qaida posing a threat to Britain’s national security, “of all the thousands of civilians and combatants, not a single al-Qaida operative or ‘international terrorist’ who could conceivably have threatened the United Kingdom is recorded as having been killed by Nato forces in Helmand,”
…. “There are no new lessons here, only one rather important old precept: before you engage in a war, understand the environment you are going into, precisely and realistically what it is you are trying to achieve and will it be worth the cost? In other words have a strategy.”
Netanyahu now considers the UN Human Rights Council to be antisemitic, rides the IS bandwagon, equates Iran with IS, slams Abbas for telling the truth, etc, etc. Look it up for yourselves, but it’s all wearily predictable and you don’t really need to bother.
“Dreoilin (nowhere near Ireland that’s for sure, maybe Cheltenham)”
Priceless.
LMAO!
You don’t post anything except noise Dreoilin, if you were to make an actual post dealing with the topic or something you do believe in and would like to share, or a summation of your views, instead of incessantly sniping at and undermining other posters, which is your sole pursuit, we could judge for ourselves. That you certainly don’t like the same treatment given back as you give to others constantly, is self-evident. Consider yourself above criticism, but happy to dish it out.
The floor is yours. What is the Tao of Dreoilin?
(anyone can filch some Gaelic or other language from the web, it proves nothing)
Fred lies constantly on here, am I or anyone else wrong to point it out?
Case closed as far as you two are concerned.
http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/cambridge-academics-open-letter-blasts-israel-gaza/
Informed opinion concurs.
“Case closed as far as you two are concerned.”
Just shows how erratic and nonsensical you are. You invite me to tell you what is the Tao of Dreoilin and before I’ve said a word you also announce “case closed”.
What have you based your ridiculous assumption on, that I’m nowhere near Ireland?
Btw, you won’t get proper Irish out of Google translate. In fact you won’t get proper anything.
Good on you, son.
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/renowned-scottish-painter-return-queen-s-honor-over-britain-s-airstrikes-against
“Fred lies constantly on here, am I or anyone else wrong to point it out?”
Fuck off Nazi retard scum.
@Node
I think I should point out that Glasgow does not represent Scotland or indeed the majority of Scots. I can say with confidence that not one person in the Highlands was giving Nazi salutes, nor the islands. Behaviour like that along with, racism, sectarianism are peculiar to small areas of Scotland which by some strange reason seem to be the bits that were blue on the results map.
Ben (California Nazi)
“That’s what this blog has become, Ba’al. Nitpickers who want to derail any discussion of Israel.”
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Ah ha! So this blog is about a “discussion of Israel”, eh?
Have you checked that with Craig?
Racism and sectarianism are peculiar to No support in the recent referendum. Which side you supported with a barrage of lies and smears, and still continue doing.
Dreoilin to “Ben (California Nazi)
“I brought this subject up before, and you got all hot under the collar then too, Ben.
And you were decidedly rude and angry. I wonder why.”
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Perhaps the price of dope has gone up and he has to smoke less? 🙂
Dreoilin points out:
“And Republicofscotland seems to think that throwing the word “wee” into a few sentences will make him Scottish. It doesn’t. Anymore than it makes him a Donegal man.”
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Yes, I noticed that as well. Hilarious!
Tony M
I asked you
What have you based your ridiculous assumption on, that I’m nowhere near Ireland?
Dreoilin writes à propos of “Ben” (California Nazi):
“Dre hasn’t been on Squonk for months.”
That place where you denigrate Craig?
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Again, correct. He seems to have calmed down a little recently, but there was a time when California Nazi was bitching away about Craig almost every day on Squonk.
He didn’t have the cojones to do it on Craig’s blog, of course, but Naeis have no balls at all.
I believe “Ben” was birichinbg away on Squo,k because Craig ticked him off on here a couple of times. Called him stupid once and we know that “Ben” has a very short fuse.
fred
“I think I should point out that Glasgow does not represent Scotland or indeed the majority of Scots. I can say with confidence that not one person in the Highlands was giving Nazi salutes, nor the islands. Behaviour like that along with, racism, sectarianism are peculiar to small areas of Scotland which by some strange reason seem to be the bits that were blue on the results map.”
Ha Ha, you’re on top form tonight, Fred. NO voters give Nazi salutes and you use geography to conclude that the YES voters are at fault.
I’d like to see the CVs of the thugs who terrorised the streets of Glasgow, find which comfy well-paid niche jobs and companies harbour these sort in their midst, the unionist press has gone silent even though many have been identified and cases have gone to court. The widely distributed videos of the female in the red joggers and top, caught on camera throwing bottles up a street into a packed and fleeing crowd including a large number of young children, should also be named and shamed.
Tony M
I ask you again
What have you based your ridiculous assumption on, that I’m nowhere near Ireland?
“Racism and sectarianism are peculiar to No support in the recent referendum. Which side you supported with a barrage of lies and smears, and still continue doing.”
No it’s peculiar to Glasgow shit for brains. A bunch of sectarian thugs got drunk in Glasgow and started fighting each other. I mean it’s not like it’s a one off event is it? It’s not the first time it ever happened is it? Let’s face it, Glasgow is famous for it.
Nobody in the vast swathes of Scotland that voted No were fighting, just that one little piece of blue.
“Ha Ha, you’re on top form tonight, Fred. NO voters give Nazi salutes and you use geography to conclude that the YES voters are at fault.”
As I said, there were no Nazi salutes here, I haven’t heard of any Nazi salutes anywhere but Glasgow. Now considering the vast majority of No voters were not in Glasgow, Glasgow voted Yes, and considering there were no Nazi salutes outside Glasgow I would say they facts are very much backing up may case. The Nazi salutes had nothing to do with Yes or No and had everything to do with sectarianism being rife in Glasgow.
Tony_M is a classic troll and provocateur. He suddenly popped up out of nowhere, didn’t he.
And his writing style is shit.
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I’m beginning to think that there are several on here with double identities.
Names that spring to mind in this context are:
Komodo-Baal-Afrend, Sofia (late Kibo Noh), Republicofscotland, Ben, Tony_M, Mary…..
There are sudden arrivals, often coinciding with sudden disappearances, are there not?
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PS – is it not surprising that the apparent disappearance of our old friend Mary has not given rise to a SINGLE comment or bit of speculation?
Careful ————·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node, you’re insulting ‘Fred’, but it is an hilarious example of his wilful misrepresentation of the bleeding obvious as its complete opposite and his detachment from all connection with reality. Malicious and bewilderingly stupid to suppose anyone could possibly fall for it. Something is seriously wrong there.