The referendum result is the loss of a chance to dispute the hegemony of the neo-con corporate elite in the international world. My heart is still bursting with pride that 45% of Scots – a people devoid of political autonomy for three hundred years – had the nerve, intellect and will to see through the avalanche of propaganda from the entire mainstream media, political establishment, banking sector and corporate world. I met numerous voters who had received letters from their employers – including Diageo, BP, RNS and many others – telling them to vote No or their job was in danger. I met the old lady in Dundee who was told by the Labour Party that independent Scotland would flood the country with immigrants, and a Romanian building worker in Edinburgh who had been told by the Labour Party that Independent Scotland would deport all East Europeans.
Yesterday the Daily Telegraph, Daily Express and Daily Mirror in Scotland all had precisely the same full page photo on their front cover – not a startling news snap, but an arty concoction of male silhouettes and union and Scottish flags. The Mirror had photoshopped it to remove the blue from the union jack, but it was the same distinctive photo. There could be no more stark example of the fake diversity of the mainstream media.
Just as the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem parties have been startlingly shown up as precisely the same creatures of corporate masters offering no policy differences whatsoever, merely a false tribalism. As they partied together at Better Together last night – the only party in the whole of Scotland, at which everybody present lives very, very well at taxpayers’ expense – it was impossible to tell which brand of Tory was which.
Keeping the popular momentum going, keeping all those wonderful people I met and spoke to engaged in trying to engineer a different society, is going to be a hard struggle. But we always knew that. The goal of independence must remain as a powerful unifying factor.
Through media onslaught people were convinced that a No vote was a vote for Devo Max. Actually after a fortnight of pontificating it will fall off the news agenda of the mainstream. Nothing significant will happen. The Westminster view is that we can have any powers we want at our glorified council in Scotland as long as we still don’t get the revenue from oil or whisky – and still provide cannon fodder for neo-con wars abroad, house Trident and are subject to draconian Westminster imposed attacks on civil liberties.
Anyway the dress rehearsal is over. At the next referendum – which is only five years away, after the UK has voted to leave the EU – we will not be putting forward Salmond’s Independence Lite, (I am not criticising, he carried it superhumanly far). We will be proposing a fully independent Scottish Republic, out of NATO, with its own currency, sweeping land reform to give Scotland’s land back to its people, nationalisation of railways and public utilities, a genuine minimum wage you can live on, a humane benefits system and strict regulation and controls on banks and bankers.
I am eating an excellent lunch and looking forward to it.
RzpublicOfProvocateurs
“Habbabkuk says : don’t forget – full name and address, please!
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I’m addressing YES voters, with this petition, when I want to address *DICKHEADS* I’ll give you a bell, till then.”
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Yes, I know you’re addressing Yessers. Hence my little quip….
After all, you might be MI5/6 🙂
I’m increasingly convinced that the vote was rigged. Those 800,000 postal votes…
Peacewisher you’re talking to a troll (fred), don’t, just ignore it. When will we have moderation of these toss-pots.
From this blog’s very own Lower Sixth Form James Joyce (aka “Tony Op-Moc”):
“Just Saying,
My mind is still open. To be honest I was impressed…etc, etc..”
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You lie, Sir, because you do not have a mind.
Fred it was the BNP, they identified themselves as such, they were doing Nazi salutes, on Wednesday night, there is lots of footage. Are you mentally-ill or just a compulsive liar?
Fred’s been sent in from MI5 to placate anger and smooth over any rigging issues
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4572482,00.html
Interesting to read this in the Israeli Press yesterday , almost suggesting the possibilities of pogroms in the event of a ‘Yes ‘ vote .
What makes the article ‘strange’ is that the views expressed by these Scots who happen to define themselves as Jews are presented on the basis of how Scotland would view Israel , and not how as Scots themselves Independence or Union would affect Scotland.
Tony M (aka Nostradamus)
“the UK will erupt, towns and cities will burn from end to end, all because David Cameron couldn’t play anything clean, he’s a bent as nine bob note, as are New Labour. I expected to wake up this morning in a model democracy, a country with all the potential to make a great society, instead we’ve woke up in a worse than both amalgam of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.”
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You forgot to mention the Plague of Locusts, Genghis Khan, the Black Death and the Highland Clearances.
Which medication are you on, you crazy fuckwit?
Manipulation of elections? Isn’t that what politics is all about?
“Ruth”
“Fred’s been sent in from MI5 to placate anger and smooth over any rigging issues”
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And perhaps you’ve been given time off from the massage parlour you work in to spread some soothing massage lotion onto the aching breats and unstirred loins of the Yessers?
“Australia has been a US lapdog for ages… remember they brought back the draft to help the war effort in Vietnam. And it seems that Harold Wilson was the last of the resistance in the UK.” (comment at 8.11pm)
“(I)t is commonly believed that Britain failed to support the US war against Vietnam, and the official history is that British troops did not take part. It is true that Britain publicly refused to commit troops. But it did much else to back the US in its terrible onslaught.
In fact, Harold Wilson approved US requests for MI6 to help the US in Vietnam. Britain’s SAS secretly took part in the war where they were attached to Australian and New Zealand SAS squads. An MI6 team of Malays and tribesmen from Borneo was also despatched on a tour of duty among ethnic montagnards in South Vietnam.
Britain conducted secret air flights from Hong Kong to deliver arms, especially napalm and 500-pound bombs. MI6 also assisted the Malayan government to transfer arms and other military supplies secretly to South Vietnam. British counter-insurgency experts…(etc)
Britain’s major contribution to the US was intelligence. This took various forms, including…(etc.)
At the diplomatic level, the Macmillan, Douglas-Home, Wilson and Heath governments all effectively supported the US war to varying degrees…(etc.)…The Wilson government after 1964 refused to break with its ally even as the scale of US terror rose to unprecedented heights…(etc)”
From Web of Deceit – Britain’s Real Role in the World by Mark Curtis (p 104)
Joe,
‘I’m increasingly convinced that the vote was rigged. Those 800,000 postal votes…’
Definitely.
Best not to do postal votes. So, so easy for the spooks to go into the election centres at the dead of night and swap the votes.
But if manipulation is being deferred to spooks (who are agents of the state and shouldn’t exercise a political opinion in doing their jobs) then that is certainly corruption.
Essay Question (20 marks) – 1 hour.
“Tony M and Ruth epitomize political masturbation”
Discuss, giving examples from their “writings”.
Why would YES votes be stacked on the NO pile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBZi6HqDwcQ
Politics is the art of controlling your environment.
HST.
“Fred it was the BNP, they identified themselves as such, they were doing Nazi salutes, on Wednesday night, there is lots of footage. Are you mentally-ill or just a compulsive liar?”
So they were Nationalists, I’ve been arguing against Nationalism in all forms all along, hadn’t you noticed.Fact remains you posted a photo of somebody with both arms up.
Are you incapable of posting without making abusive remarks? Do you think it’s clever being insulting? Then I put you and the BNP very much in the same camp, both Nationalists, both behave like Nationalists.
“Why would YES votes be stacked on the NO pile.”
If you believe you have any evidence of fraud in the referendum then go to the police with it so that it can be investigated. No use just posting it here, go to the police and they will investigate and take action if there was any wrong doing.
Habakuk @ 7.20pmhttp://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/moving-on-for-social-justice/#comment-481161
I prefer NOT to be addressed by you.
How is it possible to open a sealed ballot box, and find a neat correct pile of forms inside,the truth is its impossible.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10201496218046165&set=vb.1797702758&type=2&theater
heraldscotland
Stand-off between pro-UK and independence supporters in Glasgow’s George Square
Friday 19 September 2014
George Square in Glasgow is at the centre of a tense stand-off tonight between around 200 pro-United Kingdom and independence campaigners.
‘Some of the pro-UK campaigners, some of whom wore hoodies to disguise their identity, made Nazi salutes and others let off smoke flares as the situation turned ugly.’
Sound like the Ukranian thugs that Cameron supports
Slight addition needed there, Ben… by controlling other people’s behaviour.
Unionist Orange Order NO, bigots, burning flares and stuff in George Square.
https://twitter.com/RadioClydeNews/status/513052157575430144/photo/1
“How is it possible to open a sealed ballot box, and find a neat correct pile of forms inside,the truth is its impossible.”
If you believe you have any evidence of fraud in the referendum then go to the police with it so that it can be investigated. No use just posting it here, go to the police and they will investigate and take action if there was any wrong doing.
The dress rehearsal is over?
Wouldn’t that called “stuffing”?
I may be wrong, but I thought they were the postal ballots.
Irregularities, at the minimum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg&app=desktop
Recount.
I’ve never sensed so much anger in my life amongst so many people, not young hotheads, but older people, who’ve nothing more to lose, who’ll take their time, they’ll choose their moment and place carefully and hit back with whatever means are at their disposal. As the pretence that the UK is a democracy has been thoroughly, comprehensively revealed as illusory, revealed to a many more people than ever previously, as a result of this campaign and its unjust outcome, the moral brakes can be released and other means employed.
From BBC tax/TV license refusal, to … other things.
As Churchill might have said, you can always take one with you.
Republicofscotland
‘How is it possible to open a sealed ballot box, and find a neat correct pile of forms inside,the truth is its impossible.’
Not if the spooks are really tidy
@RoS: according to the report I heard they were also burning St Andrews flags.