David Folkerts-Landau, Chief Economist of Deutsche Bank, who has claimed that Scotland would have a “Great Depression” if independent, has a second home he bought for US $11.6 million dollars. His first home is in London – where he would have been well-placed to notice that Deutsche Bank was at the very heart of the LIBOR interest rate fixing scandal. Naturally neither Folkerts-Landau (he and his wife are friends of the Camerons) nor any other senior banker was jailed for that long term criminal illegality.
Folkerts-Landau must, you might assume, have great powers of economic prediction to have accumulated a fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars from banking salary and bonuses. Yet he failed to notice that Deutsche Bank was running up 92 billion dollars of US sub-prime mortgage junk that would be written off in the actual great crash, in which Deutsche Bank was again in the centre. Why a man who failed to notice that his own work was contributing to an actual great depression, should be taken seriously in ridiculous prognostications of a new one, is rather beyond me.
It is interesting that Folkerts-Landau states that Winston Churchill’s return to the gold standard was a major cause of the great depression. From the German Deutsche bank, that dismissed its Jewish directors in 1933 and denounced Jewish employees, and received expropriated Jewish assets through direct cooperation with Hitler, this criticism of Winston Churchill might be thought culturally insensitive.
Folkerts-Landau is just another example of the super-rich who realise that the people-based movement for Scottish independence is currently the most potent threat to the neo-con hegemony that has resulted in the destruction of social-democratic society and the massive gap between the super-rich and real people. If you look at the other boards on which sit members of the board of Deutsche Bank, it reads like a catalogue of corporate dominance:
Coca Cola
Pepsi Cola
Microsoft
Accenture
IBM
Bayer
Daimler
EON Energy
Thyssen
XL Group
Alliance Trust
Bilfinger
BMW
That is an illustration of the fact that mega corporations are not really competitive, but part of an interlinked web of capital interests all sharing directors. Those interests have bombarded Scotland with apocalyptic threats the last few days. There will be a great depression, major businesses will leave, energy bills will go up, interest rates will go up, oil will run out, shopping bills will go up, call charges will go up, terrorists will run round unimpeded, Russia will invade. These nonsensical claims have been hammered home relentlessly in perhaps the most concentrated stream of mainstream media propaganda in history.
The extraordinary resilience of the Scottish people, in face of these ludicrous levels of threat and intimidation from “authority figures” like Folkerts-Landau, is something of which I am very, very proud.
4.3m registered voters in a population of 5.2m?! Enough no shows there methinks for Mr Diebold to rig the vote. The only clue will be an inexplicable level of carbon monoxide in the blood of the drivers who ferry the votes to the counting centres. Expect a Karl Rove Ohio type hissy fit on live telly by Cameron, when the results come out and they were unable to rig. The fact that the crypto has prevailed over Hammond on the vote losing politically dodgy decision to bomb Assad using ISIL as an excuse, indicates some confidence in a NO vote.
http://www.independent.co.uk/?CMP=ILC-refresh
Will Rupert get the Sun to advocate YES, and will he move News Corp to Scotland?
@Peter Kemp: What are you on? Murdoch would never advocate “Yes”.
But he’s shrewd enough to realise that this is a possibility, and is keen not to alienate potential customers..
“Did the PTB tell you to say that RD?”
No – when you come from an old Chartist/Labour family these things come in the genes.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
13 Sep, 2014 – 3:12 pm
Sure, Doug!
“Please present a convincing case as to why Zionists – or, for that matter, Freemason, Theosophists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Flat Earthers…and so on – should not be allowed to have and express an opinion on independence for Scotland.”
“(or – if it’s easier for you – why Yessers should not be allowed to have or express an opinion on Zionism).”
“Thanks in advance, Doug.”
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An inadequate and evasive answer Habbabkuk, as ever when Zionism is discussed.
We know everyone has a right to their opinions but you haven’t addressed the context of the piece and the subtext which is, partly, after a yes vote Jews will be victimized more and will be practically forced out by haggis wielding racists.
Just hasbara on behalf of the NO camp.
ditto re Brian May, he should team up with Russel Brand for an Alliance of Independent candidates.
-for proportional representation or a randonmly selected Parliament(whichever comes first)
– for a decentralisation of power to the most effecvtive level
-for accountable civil servants
– for, and in remembrance of an excellent John Garrett, a dep. of ongoing reform within the civil service aimed at introducing business like accountable managers.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2007/sep/14/guardianobituaries.obituaries1
-for an end to NATO and for the development of a European peace and defence force.
-for and end to both houses of parliament as they exist, a radical reform or even abolishment.
– free education, an end to tuition fees, long overdue.
-for and end to Trident and for a unilateral nuclear disarmament, starting here in Britain the place of democracy blah blah…..
-for an end to gender/religious exclusion from public jobs, glass ceilings/obn’s will be crushed resisting the combined weight of the public.
and much much more
the momentum is here, and new wars are planned, so lets be positive and think of what could be.
Mary and others seem to have forgotten that it as a result of progressive people from England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland fighting together that most of the advances in the UK have been achieved:
The vote and parliamentary democracy
The Welfare State
The NHS
Rights at work
Holiday entitlements
Freedom of speech
to name but a few. By all means look for these rights to be extended and fight back when they are challenged – but don’t pretend it will be easier without our Scottish colleagues. To do so is an insult to them and our ancestor’s achievements.
Well fingers well crossed for Thursday, but with the vote so close to call I am concerned that vote rigging will be arranged by PTB. There is already form for this with previous postal ballots thanks to NuLabour and their chums. There has to be very strict independent exit polling ideally at every polling station to verify the result. There is so much at stake here for this not to be considered. For UK elections no form of ID is required at the polling station, is this also the case for this referendum ?
Where is the serious analysis showing how political progress in the rest of the UK will be advanced should Scotland vote for independence. Of course the nihilists don’t really care.
Former BBC Newsnight presenter, Paul Mason:
“Not since Iraq have I seen BBC News working at propaganda strength like this. So glad I’m out of there…”
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpike/2014/09/former-newsnight-hack-slams-beebs-referendum-propaganda/
It’s really complex Mary: we are not fighting Assad when we coordinate with him to attack ISIS on one day of the week,at least, when Saudi Arabia and the US pretend that a fictitious group who is allegedly moderate, have already done a non aggression deal not to attack ISIS we turn a blind eye to that and they turn a blind eye and give ISIS some free territory on that day for the Yanks to bomb ISIS. The next day they are friends again pledging eternal brotherhood. Only the fictitious moderate groups not aligned with ISIS but secretly aligned are DEEMED by the Yanks and Cameron to make any headway against Assad, but depending on who and what is aligned with Saudi Arabia, this can change by Tuesday.
Tony Abbott has joined the fray and will align with the United Arab Toadies, sending FA18As and 600 troops. Tony will need to spend a week counting all the factions and find out who Saudi Arabia is supporting this week.
When we are next door in Iraq bombing shit out of some Sunni peasants, we are not fighting Assad and welcome him to come over and do the same.
When we and the Yanks are using out proxies to attack Assad, the proxies are poxy if ISIS, but angels if not. Jihadis are provisionally poxy if they take our guns and lie later about being moderate. When ISIS takes guns from poxy moderate jihadis then they are deemed poxy non effective proxies.
Look, in summary, whether we are attacking Assad or are friends with him depends on:
1) Day of the week
2) How many people ISIS beheaded last week
3) To what extent Wikipedia lists moderate but fictional jihadi groups on Mondays
4) How many non aggression pacts are agreed between fictitious and non fictitious groups, and in turn other non fictitious moderate groups.
5) Adjust the degree of Assad’s badness depending on GCHQ ASIO CIA assessments on the number of returning ISIS jihadists to UK Australia and USA
6) Whether ISIS is busy in Iraq that particular day
7) Whether ISIS waits in Iraq that particular day to see if the Iraq army can set a new land speed record in retreat.
8) Whether the Saudi princes are on a trip to Scottish distilleries and forgot which jihadi it was due for payment.
🙂
@RD: Those happened when Brits had a say in how our country/countries were run. Now that is no longer the case, and all our proud achievements are being destroyed or sold off this is the best (only?) way back to democracy.
Your Chartist ancestors must be rolling in their graves that it has come to this.
Tom
13 Sep, 2014 – 7:10 pm
“I’m afraid Salmond looks to me like a devious and dangerous egotist, who would lead Scotland back to the days of tribalism…”
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Tom, you join quite a few posters here who don’t understand that this referendum is not a general election with the people voting for or against the SNP.
The NO campaigners are, dishonestly, trying to give that impression. Perhaps you are trying to spread that false image or you may be too thick to understand.
The referendum question askes “Should Scotland be an independent country?”
If the YES voters win there will be a general election in 2016.
Please read this over and over again Tom until it sinks in.
“Well fingers well crossed for Thursday, but with the vote so close to call I am concerned that vote rigging will be arranged by PTB. There is already form for this with previous postal ballots thanks to NuLabour and their chums”
All party politics is dirty, they just don’t like their big words and actions to fail, thats were Machiavelli comes in to justify their power plays and cheating.
I say it once more.
Inspect voting station, one would not want to come accross any piles of already filled out voting papers before the voting starts.
Be always equipped with a cameras of sorts, it is your insurance and evidence gathering tool, watch every polling station once they are shut and follow the ballot boxes like a barnacle clutches a rusty hull. If they go into temperal storage before counting, watch the storage.
If there are many people going in and out, unecessarry as its only storage, ask them for their names and what they are doing there in the middle of the night. if they are public servants they should feel obliged to tell you what they are there for.
If the Yes campaign can seal the ballot boxes with their own seal, then thats what they should do. Weighing ballot boxes after polls have shut is a fine way of finding out whether extra ballots have been added.
Wonder what odds the bookies would give you on Assads survival for a month, re the coming bombardment of this ancient and ravaged country.
“Well fingers well crossed for Thursday, but with the vote so close to call I am concerned that vote rigging will be arranged by PTB.”
Here we go with the excuses already!
Nevermind, you’re obviously quite up on this sort of thing. Do you still reckon that your failure to register virtually any votes at all was the result of an establishment conspiracy against you?
“Your Chartist ancestors must be rolling in their graves that it has come to this.”
I think they would still understand that unity is strength and that divide and conquer is the Tory/Tartan Tory way. What do you seriously think will happen in England should Scotland vote yes? If that were to happen Farage and the right of the Tory Party would hardly be able to supress their glee.
I could not possibly defend the last bastion of rogues who fooled the english electorate with their ubiquitous ultimatum, take AV plus or else, haha, what a laught they must have had presenting us with this take it, or leave it all out, worst ever possible option.
Anon1 you ought to ask yourself these questions below, before you tell us of your lavish and exciting electoral history…… Ever voted?
Why have these scrots not trusted the electorate with giving them a choice?
would that have resulted in a fair voting system?
jeopardising their little games played on the backs of a politically inept public?
At least I had a go at it, more that you can say for yourself, and for a party that consistently was ignored/maligned by the BBC, the farce electoral commission with no teeth, and the MSM.
When have you tried Anon1, have you the guts to admit to it or are you just like socket, all mouth and no show?
I agree about “unity is strength”. Nothing else.
What would the chartists think of the massive and still increasing inequality of Britain in 2014? They would surely hope that a Scottish “Yes” vote would inspire citizens south of the border to arise from their “Plato’s caves”.
Mr Scorgie
“Sure, Doug!
“Please present a convincing case as to why Zionists – or, for that matter, Freemason, Theosophists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Flat Earthers…and so on – should not be allowed to have and express an opinion on independence for Scotland.”
“(or – if it’s easier for you – why Yessers should not be allowed to have or express an opinion on Zionism).”
“Thanks in advance, Doug.””
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An inadequate and evasive answer Habbabkuk, as ever when Zionism is discussed.
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Well, that was the question on the table, Doug, no question of me being evasive. I just gave you a second chance to answer.
Why don’t you just be honest and say you are unable or unwilling to answer the question?
What would the chartists think of the massive and still increasing inequality of Britain in 2014?
They would actually think it was a million miles away from what was happening in the 1840s and would attribute much of the improvement to 5 out of 6 demands of the People’s Charter having been met. I would also expect that they would issue a swift rejoinder to the nihilists who denigrate their achievements rather than getting off their arses to make democracy work in the interest of ordinary people rather than playing at street theatre and similar stunts.
Anon1
““Well fingers well crossed for Thursday, but with the vote so close to call I am concerned that vote rigging will be arranged by PTB.”
Here we go with the excuses already!”
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They’ve been at it for weeks already, Anon.
If they lose, they will reveal themselves as bad losers. I’m already looking forward to a tsunami of hysteria laced with a couple of conspiracy theories and the obligatory references to Mossad, MI5/6, the CIA, the Bilderbergers and Amschel Rothschild (deceased).
Anon1
I shouldn’t really have said “If they lose”, should I.
After all, most of the Yessers on here are not even Scotch and don’t have a vote.
They’ve just seized on this as another way of expressing their love for England/the UK.
Don’t you’ think they’d be staggered at the extent to which community had been broken down and that people were enslaved by big, medium sized and little screen rather than actually talking to one another…
Peacewisher
I don’t think community has broken down, man is still a social animal – it has just changed and is not going to change back, we just need to get used to it. If you think communication doesn’t happen then you don’t have teenage children or you just ignore what they are up to. Just think how the attempts to suppress Corresponding Societies would have been entirely futile with modern technology.
Peter Kemp. Thanks for your 11.29am. Loving it.
BBC latest (ranked 1 in most popular list):
David Clapson : PM says Britain will ‘hunt down’ IDS killers
David Cameron says Britain will hunt down those responsible for the death of British ex-soldier David Clapson.
Speaking after a Cobra meeting, the prime minister paid tribute to the 59-year-old “British hero” who was sanctioned and killed by Department of Work and Pensions [DWP] militants.
He also said the country is “sickened” that a Briton could have carried out the “despicable” killing.
DWP militants “are not Muslims, they are monsters,” Mr Cameron said.
Good, RD. So you agree that governments try to suppress their peoples, and use methods or doing that that seem appropriate for the day.
Well, how dare they!! Criminal activity apart, that very action is itself anti-democratic and shows they don’t trust the people who elected them in good faith to look after their interests. I refer you again to ex-Queen rock God and latter day astronomer Dr. Brian May… (see top of page)
If you keep on, I’ll quote Thomas Jefferson at you 🙂
“If you keep on, I’ll quote Thomas Jefferson at you 🙂 ”
Let me do it first.
“Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.”
PS I don’t think Jefferson was very much into Gods rock or otherwise.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
14 Sep, 2014 – 8:41 am
“Examples of scum washing up on the Craig Murray coastline…”
Who are you quoting there Habbabkuk?
I would like to read the comments myself.