George Robertson – Third Arse From Left
George Robertson has been designated by the Labour Party to lead a campaign to have a Yes vote nullified, on the grounds of campaign irregularities, intimidation and overspending. This has been agreed by Miliband’s office. One of the great advantages of being a small country like Scotland is that you very easily discover what is happening through family and social connections.
The media propaganda about “violent nationalists” is designed both to try to sway undecided voters to No (along with the disgraceful Gordon Brown “if you don’t know, vote No” slogan), and to provide ammunition to question the validity of the decision when they lose.
As I said, the great thing about a small country is it is very hard to keep secrets. People know what is happening, including the police. The Police Federation have put out a remarkable statement to contradict the media propaganda of violence and intimidation. Do not expect to see this featured prominently in the mainstream:
In response to increased press reports and comment implying increased crime and disorder as a consequence of the Independence Referendum Brian Docherty, Chairman of the Scottish Police Federation said;
“The Police Service of Scotland and the men and women who work in it should not be used as a political football at any time and especially so in these last few hours of the referendum campaign.
As I have previously stated the referendum debate has been robust but overwhelmingly good natured.
It was inevitable that the closer we came to the 18th of September passions would increase but that does not justify the exaggerated rhetoric that is being deployed with increased frequency. Any neutral observer could be led to believe Scotland is on the verge of societal disintegration yet nothing could be further from the truth.
Scotland’s citizens are overwhelmingly law abiding and tolerant and it is preposterous to imply that by placing a cross in a box, our citizens will suddenly abandon the personal virtues and values held dear to them all.
At this time it is more important than ever that individuals be they politicians, journalists or whoever should carefully consider their words, maintain level heads and act with respect. Respect is not demonstrated by suggesting a minority of mindless idiots are representative of anything. One of the many joys of this campaign has been how it has awakened political awareness across almost every single section of society. The success enjoyed by the many should not be sullied by the actions of the few.
Police officers must be kept free from the distractions of rhetoric better suited to the playground that the political stump. If crime has been committed it will be investigated and dealt with appropriately but quite simply police officers have better things to do than officiate in spats on social media and respond to baseless speculation of the potential for disorder on and following polling day”
There was always Going to be this last minute intimidation…But i doubt they thought they would end up quite this desperate…Low lifes
Thank ye gods the police are ( Getting ) wise to the bastards…
Alex Salmond just arrived in Largs, to a huge welcome by YES supporters, who’ve turned out in large numbers.
Bert
“I am full of hope for a YES vote, but I cannot see how this will be allowed to happen.”
Bert, it’s not going to happen because a majority of Scots are going to vote No. Nothing to do with being “allowed” or not.
A lot of Yes campaigners are already preparing their excuses by talking about a rigged vote (before the vote has even happened) because deep down they know it’s not going in their favour.
Bert, it’s not going to happen because a majority of Scots are going to vote No. Nothing to do with being “allowed” or not.
A lot of Yes campaigners are already preparing their excuses by talking about a rigged vote (before the vote has even happened) because deep down they know it’s not going in their favour.
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What a load of depressing dross laden nonsense, every yes voter I’ve spoke to or seen on TV has been confident of a win for yes.
“Whoever wins, it’s not as if the other lot are conveniently going to disappear. A Scottish teacher of English at my old school, whom I’ll call Mr Black, came from Hamilton and beside his blimpish and effete colleagues passed, still in his twenties and working-class, for exotic. Mr Black was the rudest man I’d ever met. I quit school six months before A-Levels, then realised a few days before the English exam that I‘d forgotten to read The Rainbow; when I phoned Mr Black to throw myself on his mercy he said I was a ‘fucking tit’ but agreed to meet in a pub for some shock revision. Once we’d done clambering round the Brangwen family tree I asked him about Scottish devolution and independence, then as now a hot topic. His reply could work as well for Palestine, Iraq, the Koreas and Cyprus as the UK. ‘Could nae care less.’ Why? ‘Independent or nae independent, we’ll still be stuck next to youse cunts.’ And so we shall be.”
http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2014/09/16/glen-newey/a-grisly-future/
RpublocOfHolocaustDeniers
“Richard Branson, on SKY news urging Scots to vote no, and wait for new powers. No Richard, we’ll vote YES, and get all the powers.”
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All the powers you can wield while a member of the European Union and of NATO, with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second By the Grace of God Defender of the Faith as Head of State, and tied into a currency union with rUK……
Well, why not?
A few rogues labour troughers on largesse from Westminster want to deny Sots independence.
We even have a Soros who has underwritten the bookies losses as part of a devilishly cunning psyops.
And because they have postal votes ready to mix in with genuine ballots,the YES camp should be ready to demand a recount with postal votes enumerated separately.
All the powers you can wield while a member of the European Union and of NATO, with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second By the Grace of God Defender of the Faith as Head of State, and tied into a currency union with rUK……
Well, why not?
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Old Queen Dizzie Lizzie will be shitting her Tiara,over the next 24 hours, and I shall take great schadenfreude, over her misery when we vote yes, the same applies to Westminster and Whitehall.
“Thanks for that, Roger. As you probably know Norway, especially its recent history, has been a fine example for people in Scotland to measure their future. We won’t be exactly alike but we know we’ll always be friends with our Norwegian cousins.”
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“We won’t be exactly alike” – that’s putting it mildly.
I hope not – unless of course you fancy Norwegian rates of direct and indirect taxation, not to mention Norwegian rates of excise duties.
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PS – Roger says “our GDP per capita is $ 55 000, one of the highest in the world.”
Does that include GDP per caput arising out of oil and gas, and if not, what is Norwegian GDP per caput when those two products are excluded and how does that latter figure compare with GDP per caput of the UK (oil and gas excluded)?
Thanks.
Just saying
“Soros who has underwritten the bookies losses”
What’s the source for this?
Peter45
“Can we take it that for “Rothschild” we should read Jewish? I would not object to that!”
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No, I thought not. Are you an alumnus of the John Goss School of Rothschildfinders General and a Candidate Member of the Egregiousness of Eminences? If so, a hearty welcome to this blog!
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La vita è bellissima, life is great!
Fred
17 Sep, 2014 – 4:25 pm
“The Scottish government has been pushing Scotland’s Celtic heritage to the exclusion of their Norse heritage even though in many areas it is far greater.”
“They have road signs in Gaelic even in areas that were pure Norse, they have Gaelic radio and TV programs not Norse.”
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Fred (the Viking), can you speak Norse? Does anyone in Scotland speak Norse?
The answer is no. And the areas that have the most Norse heritage; the Highlands and Islands, speak Gaelic and they’re proud of it.
By the way Fred, DNA comparisons have been made that show the presence of Viking markers in the Orr ancestry [a common Scots name]. This gels with a source of the name `orre` – meaning black cock.
Ask veit ek standa, heitir Yggdrasill, hár baðmr, ausinn hvíta auri; þaðan koma doggvar, þærs í dala falla, stendr æ yfir grænn Urðarbrunni.
That’s Norse not Gaelic Fred.
“”While the No voters are at work.”
That’s corporate serfs for ya.”
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Certainly is, Captain – they’re working towards that Norwegian GDP per caput figure of $55.000! 🙂
RepublicOfHolocaustDeniers
“All the powers you can wield while a member of the European Union and of NATO, with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second By the Grace of God Defender of the Faith as Head of State, and tied into a currency union with rUK……
Well, why not?
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Well, some of your fellow Yessers appear to have a little trouble with that, don’t they.
All the more reason for a rapid general election in Scotland if Scotland votes for independence, wouldn’t you agree? Democracy and freedom and all that, don’t y’ know….
Revolting.
http://powerbase.info/index.php/George_Robertson
See lobbying activities.
The current entry reads:
Biography UK Parliament
Post Date
Secretary General of NATO 1999-04
Secretary of State for Defence 1997-99
Shadow Secretary of State 1993-97
Constituency Date
Hamilton South 1997-99
Hamilton 1978-97
Political life – other Job title Organisation Date
Secretary General NATO 1999-03
Professional life Job title Organisation Date
Deputy Chairman TNK-BP 2006-13
Deputy Chairman Cable and Wireless PLC 2004-06
Public life Post Organisation Date
Trustee Queen Elizabeth Diamond Jubilee Trust 2012-
Chairman Ditchley Foundation, Council of Management 2011-
Chairman Commission on Global Road Safety 2004-
Joint President Chatham House 2002-12
Hon. Colonel London Scottish Regiment 2001-
Member’s focus Policy
Business, industry and consumers
Defence
European Union
International affairs
Transport
UK – Scotland
World
Central Europe
East Europe
France
Germany
Russia
USA
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Register of Interests
1: Directorships
Non-executive Director, Weir Group plc (engineering)
Non-executive Director, Western Ferries (Clyde) Ltd
2: Remunerated employment, office, profession etc.
Senior International Adviser, Cable & Wireless Communications plc
Senior Counsellor, Cohen Group (US-based consultancy)
Adviser, BP plc
Speaking engagement, 24 September 2013, HSBC, in Dubai, UAE
Member, International Advisory Board, Balkan Mining Group (mining company operating in the Western Balkans)
Occasional journalism
4: Shareholdings (b)
Cable & Wireless Communications plc (telecoms)
Weir Group plc (engineering)
6: Sponsorship
The Member receives a limited amount of secretarial assistance from BP plc
7: Overseas visits
Visit to St. Petersburg, Russia, 6-7 May 2013, for meeting of Commission for Global Road Safety (of which I am Chairman); travel and accommodation paid for by FIA Foundation
10: Non-financial interests (a)
Director, Queen Elizabeth Diamond Jubilee Trust Trading Company
Chairman, Commission for Global Road Safety
Director, Make Roads Safe (charity)
10: Non-financial interests (b)
Elder Brother and Member of Court, Trinity House
10: Non-financial interests (d)
Member, Advisory Council, Centre for European Reform
10: Non-financial interests (e)
Trustee, British Forces Foundation
Chairman, Council of Management, Ditchley Foundation
Member, Advisory Council, International Institute of Strategic Studies
Member, Advisory Council, European Council on Foreign Relations
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Wikipedia mentions that he is a senior counsellor to the Cohen Group in the US. Not mentioned above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Robertson,_Baron_Robertson_of_Port_Ellen
Another opinion on Scotland from across the pond:
http://www.nomiprins.com/thoughts/2014/9/15/from-voting-on-scottish-independence-to-taming-speculation.html
Correction. The Cohen Group is mentioned in his Lords register.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cohen_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cohen The usual.
Just Saying
“And because they have postal votes ready to mix in with genuine ballots,the YES camp should be ready to demand a recount with postal votes enumerated separately.”
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Would it not be more efficient and surer just to shoot a few tens of thousands of the No voters and then re-run the referendum?
That would also create a few jobs to be filled by the unwaged (Scottish only, of course).
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Turn to Habbabkuk for the right solution! You know it’d work.
Mary writes, to preface yet another long cut-and-paste
“Revolting.
http://powerbase.info/index.php/George_Robertson
See lobbying activities.
The current entry reads: etc, etc, etc”
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Which parts/details of Robertson’s career do you find particularly revolting, Mary?
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Habbabkuk against pissy, silly, menopausal comments. 🙂
“The Police Service of Scotland and the men and women who work in it should not be used as a political football at any time and especially so in these last few hours of the referendum campaign”
Clearly this is not advice that Craig wishes to follow.
John Witherspoon may not have succeeded in convincing many of his fellow Scots to support American independence in the American Revolution, but he did succeed in another way: the College of New Jersey (now Princeton University), which he headed, was a center of revolutionary sentiments, and three graduates of that college — as well as Witherspoon himself — were signers of the Declaration of Independence.
What absolute bloody nonsense. Hope it is all swept away.
Fellow members of the order of the thistle here.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/05/article-2169133-13EFCF68000005DC-22_634x546.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2169133/Duchess-Cambridge-primrose-Emilia-Wickstead-attends-service-William-Knight-Thistle.html
Great to see you this afternoon Craig.
Hope you manage to track down your relatives and after Friday will have plenty time to do so.
I am sure that Scotland will want to use your services in the future.
All the best.
Jim
“The answer is no. And the areas that have the most Norse heritage; the Highlands and Islands, speak Gaelic and they’re proud of it.”
So you’ve never actually been to Orkney and Shetland then.
At a 55% turnout the devolution vote stood at 1.3m. At an 85% turnout the YES vote could be 2m. It would then require postal or other shenanigans to add up to 2m plus winning NO votes,in effect a combined turnout of 94% on the registered voter base of 4.3m. Even saddam would be proud, but if the bookies are at 4-1 odds its a done “deal”.
Interested in testing the accuracy of the current Beeb headline, which says “Scottish independence: Mass rallies mark referendum climax”.
I note “mass rallies”, plural, and the clear implication is both sides have held a mass rally or two.
Any evidence that this is the case? (I do believe “Yes” had such an event, but what about “No”?)
Anon1 looks as if someone did not like your question and did not like my reply as our comments have been removed. How truly Pathetic!
Some organiser from the NUJ was on the radio 4 last night bleating for about five minutes about how outrageous it was that there had been a demo outside the BBC against BBC bias. He really seemed to think that even verbally criticising journalists in public was some kind of sacriledge against democracy, like criticising the Catholic priesthood in the Middle Ages. It seems that like most bullies, the lackeys of the mainstream media can dish it out, but they can’t take it.
Peter45
We’re agreed on that. Hang in there!
Pete
I doubt your NUJ organiser has ever complained about BBC bias before. We’re talking nearly 50 Labour MPs here.