In Heywood and Middleton, a classic Labour northern English seat, UKIP and the Tories combined got 51% of the vote. In Clacton – a deprived coastal area – the Conservatives and UKIP got 83% of the vote.
It is not that Labour and the Lib Dems offer an alternative that is in any significant way less devoted to corporate interests and serving the economic needs of the super-rich. The large majority of voters, and especially those who do not bother to vote, have by now worked out that the difference in their lives is negligible if they have a different member of the political class with his or her nose in the trough at their expense.
But everybody who has seen an actual UKIP campaign knows that their grassroots appeal is simply racist – they promote the idea that it is not the billionaires and ultra-wealthy who are sucking the resources from society, but rather the poor of a different colour. The Conservatives are striving, particularly through rampant Islamophobia, to compete for the atavistic vote.
UKIP is an antibody produced by the political establishment and their paymasters, to counter public disillusion with a dreadful and worsening unequal society. UKIP’s task is to divert public anger away from their exploiters towards specific groups of the poor. It does so very effectively. UKIP’s success yesterday will lead to a race among the mainstream parties to scapegoat vulnerable social groups – immigrants, benefit claimants, unemployed – and to compete in external xenophobia. The next government of the United Kingdom will be right wing to a degree which would have seemed unthinkable for the majority of my life.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/police-question-ruth-davidson-over-postal-votes-1-3568873
“Tony M
The UKIP lot too seem an entirely male phenomenon, probably having far more in common with the most regressive minority elements within Islam than they would like to acknowledge.”
Pakistani racism is often firewalled inside/ masquerades as UK management procedures. UK racism is often cloaked in hypocrisy as well.
Every time this country exceeds its previous bounds of moral decrepitude, by siding with Israel against Palestine or bombing somewhere itself, a moral philosophy springs up that encapsulates and normalises those excesses into the status quo.
The philosophical product of UK violent empire building was Darwin’s theory of evolution – retrofit crap of the finest order, to justify the violence of UK colonial greed.
UKIP is the product of 20 years of solid UK wog bashing. A nation gets the politicians it deserves!
@ Tony M:
Despite that certain imminent betrayal you’ll probably fall for the same trick again, and again until you die
So what’s your proposal? Bring in more immigrants?
You seem to be no more than an insolent blatherskite without a rational program.
Or are you a Commie looking forward to the revolution when people who question your tyrannical power can be dispatched with a bullet to the back of the head?
What do you mean Canspeccy?Scotland become and insignificant part of the UK? That is exactly what it has become.The powers dont even feel committed to keeping their promises.That’s contempt without any respect whatsoever.
“Or are you a Commie”
You are revealing too much about your chronological age, CanSpeccy. Only the most conservative old-timers still refer to ‘commies’.
It’s also not very attractive to be so vehemently ethnocentric.
Spock
“”In order to achieve this they have to engage with the people who come from those lands. Poles and Bulgarians whose countries have been sold to global corporations which are putting our milk farmers out of business, etc etc.
So that we have more people producing nothing requiring more colonization and more immigration. This is mere raving. Or is it verbiage spewed by a semi-intelligent meme-bot?””
It’s the truth that Mr Osborne was talking about this week. This country is a colonial nation. It only makes money from its colonial projects, mostly now in Asia, or in the new colonies of Eastern Europe.
The world according to you is there for us to colonise but there should be no returns. ????????????????????????????????
Tony M
I have a distant cousin there who works for Shell. ISIS’s next move?
They work for Hell (otherwise known as USUKIS – don’t tell a soul)
Adams, I get the extinction – annihilation; destruction; elimination eh? Applied to apartheid, that ‘meme’ overwhelmed the white supremacists in South Africa.
I myself would rather not be
controlled ruled from anywhere by anyone claiming to represent me.In Freetown SA a while ago I was given ‘advice’ not to walk on the same side-walk as a black person, or ride a bus, go to the public loo or speak to forgive me. I dismissed the ‘advice’ spoke, and gained the valuable ‘enlightenment’ that starts your diatribe.
Adams, I get the extinction – annihilation; destruction; elimination eh? Applied to apartheid, that ‘meme’ overwhelmed the white supremacists in South Africa.
I myself would rather not be
controlledruled from anywhere by anyone claiming to represent me.In Freetown SA a while ago I was given ‘advice’ not to walk on the same side-walk as a black person, or ride a bus, go to the public loo or speak to forgive me. I dismissed the ‘advice’ spoke, and gained the valuable ‘enlightenment’ that starts your diatribe.
It was incredibly loud at the front..I had no ear protection whatsoever..so I asked my wife..she looked in her bag..No I have no ear protection..except the carrot things I wear in my ears…she told me to get another pint of Cider..before I went completely deaf..I had no ear protection whatsoever…and it was incredibly loud..then my angel did the most incredible thing..she took one of her ear plugs out and gave it to me..I tried to fit it in to my right ear – my left is already almost completely deaf…and I tried but it didn’t work..I said love..I don’t really know how to do this..can you take your ear plug and push it in…so she did..I took it out again..I wanted to hear the band ..they were completely fucking brilliant..but what a girl..my wife..she shares what she has got with me.
Total Angel
Tony
“They work for Hell (otherwise known as USUKIS – don’t tell a soul)”
Don’t forget USAMRID, especially in W. Africa.
Canspeccy: Neither the UK or England are my country (the UK is not even country, and neither is Britain), so I’m just a spectator from nearby Scotland, where the values that the immediately post-ww2 generations throughout the countries of the British Isles demanded in 1945 – neither communism or capitalism – but an active state improving quality of life for its people, are still held by a vast majority to have been worthy objectives. You might be hung up on notions of race, or desirous of hanging all others, but as you start with those unlike yourself, once you’ve exhausted them, you’ll move on to those a little more like yourself, eventually there’ll be just your immediate family and you’ll no doubt in time determine they’re inferior to you too, and put them to the sword, eventually it’ll be just you left. Will you realise then you might have been wrong after all, who’ll be left to hate and blame then for your all-consuming feelings of inadequacy?
It seems April Showers implanted a tracking device in his pacemaker, and rushes to her radio shack to sit in the greenish glow, tracking him on a giant electronic map on the wall, which goes ping, sending the hens scattering, when he is on the move.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/10/the-purpose-of-politics/#comment-485805
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment
Many find the idea that ebola is being tested with subjects without their knowledge or compensation to be unbelievable don’t understand the lengths to which they will go to achieve the endgame. Lives perceived as having no value outside their usefulness to long-game strategies, have a function for the powers that must not just survive, but thrive. People of color serve that end for those who think the end justifies the means. Bastids!!!
@ Mats:
What do you mean Canspeccy?Scotland become and insignificant part of the UK?
Not sure what you are referring to.
I did say at 12.06:
“I think if Scotland had gained “independence” it would have been a hollow victory since it would have become an insignificant part of the EU.” (if I said
And it is clear from what the Murrayites are saying here that their support for Scotch independence was never for independence, but for the break up of the UK, a powerful and potentially independent nation state, and the subjugation of the parts to the undemocratic globalist institutions, including the EU and Nato.
“not sore enough yet!”
Many years ago on the occasion of Zimbabwean independence Robert Mugabe was asked in a TV interview if he thought Scotland would be next. He replied in the negative, saying that the Scots had not yet suffered enough. Looks as if that’s being put right.
@ Ben:
“Or are you a Commie”
Only the most conservative old-timers still refer to ‘commies’.
Oh I understand that. That’s why it amuses me to use the terminology. But I really quite a bit younger than the Reagan generation.
And I don’t think being against the genocide of one’s own people (and for the preservation of human diversity in general) amounts to vehement ethnocentrism. Or are all Jews vehement ethnocentrists for their “never again” mentality?
Tony M:
Canspeccy: …the UK is not even country, and neither is Britain,
More raving (Country, n: A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. OED).
Or is it that you expect me to spell it out in full each time: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Or are you, after claiming Britain was a colonial power, is in fact itself a colony of the Empire? But what the Hell. You’re just all wiggle waggle and never can be categorical.
@ Vronsky
Many years ago on the occasion of Zimbabwean independence Robert Mugabe was asked in a TV interview if he thought Scotland would be next. He replied in the negative, saying that the Scots had not yet suffered enough. Looks as if that’s being put right.
Put right? In what way. As in Zimbabwe? Million percent inflation coming to Scotland soon? Land owners to be robbed, their property, which is to be acquired by D. Cameron and family? Or what exactly are you talking about?
@Tony M:
You might be hung up on notions of race
LOL. Opposing genocide is racism. Great stuff. I think I’d better quit. I not up to maintaining a conversation with inmates of loonie bin.
“But I really quite a bit younger than the Reagan generation.”
Then you are not quite ‘sclerotic’? 🙂 That’s good.
“And I don’t think being against the genocide of one’s own people”
So you see cultural/religious assimilation as ‘genocide’?
My mum used to worry about that. She got it from her father, and he got it from his father and so on.
Don’t you think it’s time the inhabitants of this planet learned to live and let live? Do you think our physical differences and cultural mores will lead to acceptance better if we shared characteristics in common?
the political class have a different agenda to most of us, and it includes perpetual war. a pox on all their houses.
Oliver Wright at The Independent:
Anger grows within Labour over forced Palestinian vote
Several shadow ministers are understood to have gone to see Mr Miliband in an effort to persuade him to change his mind and offer Labour MPs a free vote on the motion – which is being proposed by the backbench MP Grahame Morris.
Rachel Reeves, the shadow Work and Pension Secretary, and Michael Dugher, the shadow Cabinet Office minister, are both officers of Labour Friends of Israel….
One senior pro-Israeli Labour MP said: “To say that there is a row going on it putting it very mildly. People are furious. This is an attempt to rip up 13 years of carefully calibrated policy. It total madness and makes the prospect of peace less rather than more likely.” The MP added that significant numbers of senior Labour figures had made views known to Mr Miliband…
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/anger-grows-within-labour-over-forced-palestinian-vote-9788395.html
If it was a powerful and potentially independent state, as it once was, surely it wouldn’t already be, as it certainly is, subugated by the the EU and NATO, both of which are to differing degrees subjugated by the US. And all are subjugated to private banking cartels, and those private banks are subjugated by those private banks empowered to create infinite amounts of essentially worthless US dollars, with enough of which the whole planet is sold over and again.
As for mongrelisation, it has already happened millions of times over; you’re too late, neanderthals did live alongside modern man, then and only then in that short time your case might have made a some sense as it seemed an inevitable outcome that they would be out-evolved. After that event subsequent worrying unduly about lineage seems rather more to be simply infighting amongst ourselves, than evolution.
@ Ben
So you see cultural/religious assimilation as ‘genocide’?
I cam back just to say I don’t consider everyone who’s comment here is nuts.
But while I’m here I’ll respond to Ben’s nifty piece of misrepresentation.
I used the term genocide as the term was coined by the Jewish scholar Raphael Lemkin:
… a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight. The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, … their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort.
So genocide is the process of destroying a nation as a racial and cultural entity. That is what has happened to the English in London. I know the Murrayites will deny this for ever. But it’s an obvious truth that 70% of the English population oppose.
“one’s own people”
I don’t even think like that. It’s grave worthy at party’s.
All we can all do is to try and express our own little bit of humanity and the fact that we really do care for each other..and then get up off your arse and actually do something useful..there is little point in talking to these psychopaths..they are never going to understand..and there is absolutely no way we can take them on..except by the rule of LAW..we wrote it..and we expect it to apply to the current controlling elite..just the same as us…
But my Wife works above (or below) dependent on your point of view…as I explained to Our Daughter
Mum works Growing Food on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays…and feeds us and gives the surplus away for free….
See my Beautiful Daughter..If You Can Compete With That..
So she says O.K…I am already doing a part of that..oh yeh???
She is an Angel Too..looking at her..well is it the hard labour or the education..or the drugs..kick the twat into touch..and make your own life…you silly girl…You are Far Better Than That…sure he is sheltering you..and you kind of love him…if he is so good how come your Mum and Dad..have never met him..He is ..well I don’t know…he might be Paulo Matrtini//for all I know..or some other cunt…I don’t know…but I do understand…when I was her age…I had no contact with My Mum…or the Rest Of My Family…they simply would not approve of Princess Diane..she lived in a Council Estate in Buttershaw..already had two kids…I can’t bring her back to see my Mum…she completely loved the one before..but no we didn’t get married…though came incredibly close…and Her Kids Might Yet Prosecute ANTHONY CHARLES LYNTON BLAIR for war crimes against humanity..
I met her about 3 months ago…for the first time in over 33 years..She got on really well with my wife…she just invited my ex into our tent in a thunderstorm..They are both O.K…Its a Kind of Love Thing.
You Don’t Fuckin Mess…with My Ex…nor all her cousins from Serbia..well of course I am not going to tell her..what these bastards actually did..I simply could not destroy her heart and soul..I simply cannot tell her truth…Even My Lancashire Blonde Girlfriend…who is a Total Professional..said Tony ..Please Don’t Tell Me That..No One Could Be So Evil..It Destroyed My Fucking Christmas..but it did not Destroy My Angels..I Haven’t Told Them Yet..well except my mate..a bit..but she can try and handle it..she knows…she provided medical care when she was a kid..to the women of Greenham Common..cos she just wanted to do it…
Another Lancashire Angel..Give Up Guys…You Simply Cannot Compete..
She is My Mate.
And She Loves My Wife Too.
Now be Nice.
Tony
Facing Facts (speech to Imam Jamil Al-Amin event NYC) (1:51) by Mumia Abu-Jamal
http://prisonradio.org/media/audio/mumia/facing-facts-speech-imam-jamil-al-amin-event-nyc-151-mumia-abu-jamal
” Ben’s nifty piece of misrepresentation.”
I think you mean ‘Bingo’. You failed to answer the salient question.
Is assimilation a form of genocide? Are you pure Saxon, or a mixture of several ethnicities ? I am a mongrel and proud of it. They make the best canines, btw.
The fact of pedigrees; They are more susceptible to ailments that result from the chromosomal cul-de-sac. They cost more in veteranian bills and live on average 7 years. Not to mention if cousins breed.
Thanks for that link Oddie.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/10/an-ugly-mood/#comment-486085
Perhaps Reeves would like to read this piece in case she has lost her short term memory.
War within a war
The injuries in Gaza which shocked British surgeons
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29279073
Wonder what she did at the British Embassy in Washington 2000-6? From the snake pit. Note the husband was in Brown’s Treasury. He now has a plum job at DEFRA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Joicey
What a bunch.
‘She is a supporter of Israel, writing a chapter for a book about Israeli politics and society,[43] and she is a keen supporter of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Foundation.[44]
Reeves regularly contributes articles to publications such as the website LabourList,[45] Progress[46] and The Guardian’s Comment is Free.[47]
Personal life
Reeves is married to Nicholas Joicey,[48] director of the international department of HM Treasury.[49][50] and a former private secretary and speech writer to Gordon Brown.[51] She lives in Bramley, Leeds, and London.[52]
Reeves’ younger sister, Ellie, is a member of Labour’s National Executive Committee and Joint Policy Committee, and is married to John Cryer, another Labour MP.[53] Reeves announced her first pregnancy on 20 September 2012.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Reeves