The TV debates for the Westminster election will offer you a dazzling range of neo-con policies from right wing to very right wing. Conservative, Labour, Liberal or UKIP, any flavour of corporate neo-con control that you like. It is a kind of weird speed dating circle between Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and Farage.
If it had been UKIP with thousands of supporters on George Square yesterday, does anybody doubt the rally would have received much more coverage. The decision about the election debates could not offer starker proof of my thesis that UKIP is an antibody produced by the establishment in response to voter disillusion with the lack of real policy difference between mainstream parties. Protest is to be diverted into a right wing channel that really offers no difference at all.
The fact that UKIP and the Lib Dems are to participate in the electoral debates, whereas the Greens, Plaid Cymru and the SNP – all of which offer genuine alternatives to the neo-con narrative – are not, is indefensible. The SNP will win more MPs than the Liberal Democrats and the Greens will have more votes. UKIP have just won their first ever elected MP – which means they have finally caught up with the Greens. Given equal media access, I expect the Green vote would exceed the UKIP vote too – which is precisely the outcome the broadcasters are desperate to avoid.
The voters must not be shown that other choices, other visions, other policies are possible. You can choose any neo-con you wish.
Mr Goss
“The neo-Nazis supported by the west in Ukraine are likely to become a serious problem for Jews remaining in the country. The signs are already there. I recall an Israeli newspaper (I think it was the Jewish Chronicle) warning about this. What are your thoughts Habbabkuk?
http://en.ria.ru/analysis/20141013/194037714/Antisemitic-Ukrainian-Nationalists-Pose-Threat-to-Jewish.html”
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With pleasure, Mr Goss. Here are three thoughts.
1/. I note that you link to the Russian Novosti website.agency and further note with interest the credence you appear to lend to Russian MSM as opposed to your usual refusal to believe Western ones.
2/. The Novosti article quotes extensively from a “Russian publicist and political analyst” whose comments, if they were directed against a Western govt rather than against Kiev, you would no doubt immediately denounce as swivel-eyed, paranoid and sinister Zionist propaganda.
3/. No country appears to be immune to at least a degree of anti-Semitism. The same applies to society at large and its composants….including otherwise eminent and apparently popular blogs ( numerous posts on Craig Murray refer).
Public will never get over Tony Blair and Iraq war, says David Blunkett
People hate the former Prime Minister partly because of the money he has made since leaving office, his former colleague says
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/public-will-never-get-over-tony-blair-and-iraq-war-says-david-blunkett-9790214.html
There speaks another NuLabour liar and psychopath. May they all rot in hell.
Mr Scorgie
“Have you noticed John that the picture of Tony Blair in that link shows him with a big chest and wide shoulders?
I wonder if he’s wearing a bullet proof vest.
I hope he’s shitting himself.”
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Why are you putting the idea that Blair might get shot into people’s minds, Doug?
Are you by any chance dipping a (very) timid toe into the waters of incitement?
Fred
14 Oct, 2014 – 11:48 am
“But they all claim they are not racist.”
“We must judge people by what they do not what they say and your personal attacks on myself for having a different viewpoint are pure Nazi bullying and intimidation.”
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Now you’re just being sheepish Fred.
You have no friends, well maybe Fred,the sheep farmer…Baaaaa!”
I have not entered into this debate, I have said not one word in this thread.
But still the Nationalist Blackshirts bully and intimidate. Still I am harassed by totally unprovoked personal attacks.
Look at them, all the same, Neo Nazis, Zionists, EDL, BNP and SNP all the same, all bullies and thugs.
Fuck off and die retard.
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No Freddy boy you’ve got it all wrong again, you voted no, UKIP, EDL, BNP NF, which are laden with Neo-Nazi nut jobs all voted to save the union, they’re your brothers in arms.
Oh forgot to add your favourite bigots the Orange Order, God save the Queen, Rule Britannia, and all that dogshit.
“With pleasure, Mr Goss. Here are three thoughts.”
The three thoughts are ponderous Habbabkuk. But what I was really trying to find out was whether you are still supporting the Neo-fascists (Svoboda and Pravy Sector) who are all for persecuting Jews and idolising World War II Nazi philosophy and heroes. Answer please.
Or do you not believe the report?
Mr Goss
““With pleasure, Mr Goss. Here are three thoughts.”
The three thoughts are ponderous Habbabkuk.”
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Well, Mr Goss, I’m sorry they don’t have the lightness of touch that you obviously prefer but do not apply to your own offerings on here. 🙂
But I’m afraid you’ll just have to take them or leave them as they are.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
14 Oct, 2014 – 12:02 pm
“You said yesterday that you’ve often mentioned them in earlier posts of yours but curiously enough you’ve not yet responded to my invitation to provide some links to those mentions.”
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You misquote me Habbabkuk I didn’t use the word “often.”
I don’t keep a record of my posts Habbabkuk and I’m not going to waste my time on your “invitation” to provide links.
There are many players in the Israel/Palestine conflict; Hamas, Hezbollah and Fatah to name but three.
Who is Iain Begg? Losing the plot there, yet again! Is senile dementia setting in?
Devolution discussion, going on just now in the House of Commons, Angus Neil asking why David Cameron is not in attendance, SNP delegates listening closely to William Hague, who chairs the discussion, debate becoming heated.
Hague trying to skew the “Vow” by switching to English devolution,and the Midlothian Question has raised its head.
Fred
14 Oct, 2014 – 12:07 pm
“No, the ones who use anger, jealousy, greed and resentment to manipulate people into voting yes.”
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How about the ones who used anger, jealously, greed, resentment, propaganda, lies and false promises to manipulate people into voting NO?
“Now you’re just being sheepish Fred.”
Fuck off and die cunt retard.
“No Freddy boy you’ve got it all wrong again, you voted no, UKIP, EDL, BNP NF, which are laden with Neo-Nazi nut jobs all voted to save the union, they’re your brothers in arms.
Oh forgot to add your favourite bigots the Orange Order, God save the Queen, Rule Britannia, and all that dogshit.”
Fuck off and die retard.
‘Agent Smoothface Cameron is running scared. He has written to all those on the electoral roll in Rochester and Strood.’
Our Dave is playing catch-up with Renegade Reckless here- contacts in the constituency tell me the UKIP candidate had a ‘personal message’ delivered around the constituency at the weekend, dealing solely with local issues. Also, to counter the usual ‘UKIP is racist’ meme extruded by Craig and others, the message included an endorsement of his candidacy from a local GP – of Indian origin.
Leveson is one of three judges who have rejected the challenge made to the inquest verdict by Mark Duggan’s mother. The verdict was ‘lawful killing’, a travesty.
Mark Duggan lawful killing verdict upheld
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29611987
Fuck off and die cunt retard.
Fuck off and die retard.
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Fred how come he gets the extra c**t word, and I don’t, its not fair Fred, you’re being biased now Fred.
Is it because I forgot to add your third favourite song Land of Hope and Glory, don’t be so sheepish Fred, add the C word, you know you want to.
Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
14 Oct, 2014 – 12:38 pm
“Why are you putting the idea that Blair might get shot into people’s minds, Doug?”
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He might get shot Habbabkuk and the security services are well aware of it.
I’d rather see him at the International Criminal Court than being shot but since that’s not likely to happen I hope he fears for his life to the end of his days.
Dougie
Watch what you say to Habb, he’s leading you on to say something which may get you into trouble.
Petition : Include Green Party in Leaders’ Debates ahead of the 2015 General Election.” Change.org
“BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky: Include the Green Party in the TV Leaders’ Debates ahead of the 2015 General Election.” on Change.org.
https://www.change.org/p/bbc-itv-channel-4-sky-include-the-green-party-in-the-tv-leaders-debates-ahead-of-the-2015-general-election?recruiter=44609508&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
Slow to load. 38,000 signatures already
Why only the Green Party? As there are no local hustings these days, all parties standing should get in on the act.
“Is it because I forgot to add your third favourite song Land of Hope and Glory, don’t be so sheepish Fred, add the C word, you know you want to.”
Fuck off and die retard.
Mr Scorgie
“Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
14 Oct, 2014 – 12:02 pm
“You said yesterday that you’ve often mentioned them in earlier posts of yours but curiously enough you’ve not yet responded to my invitation to provide some links to those mentions.”
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You misquote me Habbabkuk I didn’t use the word “often.”
I don’t keep a record of my posts Habbabkuk and I’m not going to waste my time on your “invitation” to provide links.
There are many players in the Israel/Palestine conflict; Hamas, Hezbollah and Fatah to name but three.”
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So I think the conclusion we can draw from your refusal to back up your claim is that you too did not refer to Hamas and Hizbollah in your previous posts on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
Accordingly, your claim that you did refer to them by name was yet another untruth from you.
Who is Ian Begg, Habby, do keep up with all the names. will you?
Have you signed the letter asking Ms. May to explain why the police and courts were not good enough to receive ‘information showing Moazzam was innocent’. Why the heck did you not sign it? always coming over so cocky here, were you a little frit boar?
Is it good enough, for you to know, or anybody else for that matter, that some shitforbrains organisation is playing with their computers/phones and are criminalising those they don’t like to hear or see speaking out in public, that they have access to all areas, some, maybe most of them, just under the age of 25? I guess by looking at their actions.
Mr Scorgie
“He might get shot Habbabkuk and the security services are well aware of it.
I’d rather see him at the International Criminal Court than being shot but since that’s not likely to happen I hope he fears for his life to the end of his days.”
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Do you have any concrete information that someone might attempt to shoot Tony Blair, Doug?
If so, you should inform the authorities otherwise you too would be in breach of anti-terror legislation.
If not, then you are merely speculating in a way that might give one the impression that you would not be unhappy to see such an event. I’ll leave it to you to evaluate the borderline between that and incitement, bearing in mind that you are performing on a public forum.
Habbyhorse: You been borrowing a high horse from your farming Friend?
Don’t ride anywhere near Denmark there’s a good little Tröttl.
Nevermind
Calm down, dear.
I’m not trying to criticise you should you have co-signed Iain Orr’s letter to the Home Secretary on the Moazzam Begg case – quite the contrary, in fact.
Nor do I doubt that you co-signed; after all, you said publicly on this blog that you would do so. All credit for having done so.
I’m just intrigued not by the fact (according to Iain Orr) that there WAS one other co-signatory but by the fact that there was ONLY one other co-signatory.
After all, there is a whole coven of loudmouths and armchair warriors on here whom one could never suspect of passing up on an opportunity to bring their views to the attention of the Home Secretary.
So why did they not do so? Are they talking the talk but lamentably failing to walk the walk.
Republicifscotland
Since you’re always referring to it, it must be one of your favourites.
So here it is, just for you. Enjoy!
RULE BRITANNIA
When Britain first, at Heaven’s command
Arose from out the azure main;
This was the charter of the land,
And guardian angels sang this strain:
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
2
The nations, not so blest as thee,
Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall;
While thou shalt flourish great and free,
The dread and envy of them all.
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
3
Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
As the loud blast that tears the skies,
Serves but to root thy native oak.
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
4
Thee haughty tyrants ne’er shall tame:
All their attempts to bend thee down,
Will but arouse thy generous flame;
But work their woe, and thy renown.
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
5
To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine:
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles thine.
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
6
The Muses, still with freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coast repair;
Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown’d,
And manly hearts to guard the fair.
“Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
“Britons never will be slaves.”
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Since you’re always referring to it, it must be one of your favourites.
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Habb the Torturer.
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You should never have published those words Fred will be as we speak, in a sheer state of ecstasy, as he sing his beloved anthem, whilst running around in a frenzy.
Me I think its a dirge, and should be renamed Britannia Waves the Rules.
Nevermind
Calm down, dear.
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Habb the Palestinian genocide denier.
Who the f*ck do you think you are Michael Winner?
Hold the news, make a mark in your calender, everyone, today is the first day Habbakuk has posted something he supports, the words to rule Britannia, his kind of empire music.
well done Habby, first time is the hardest.
Never mind what other people were doing and your nosiness as to who else might have signed it,
Why did you not sign it if you are so righteous and in favour of the innocent getting a fair trial?
why does Habby not want a fair trial for a British Muslim? Why would he rather see him in jail, than to negotiate for the freedom of an innocent man?
Answer on a stamp please.
“You should never have published those words Fred will be as we speak, in a sheer state of ecstasy, as he sing his beloved anthem, whilst running around in a frenzy.”
Fuck off and die Nazi Holocaust denying retard.