Israeli economics minister Naftali Bennett has claimed of Binyamin Netanyahu that “The prime minister is not a private person but the leader of the Jewish state and the whole Jewish world.” Really? Netanyahu is the leader of all the Jews in London, or California, or Ethiopia, who may never have set foot in his state?
This extraordinary remark by Bennett lays bare the fundamental flaw in the very concept of Israel. It is not a modern state, defined as a territory and comprising all the various citizens of whatever descent who live within it. It is rather a vicious racist construct, defined absolutely by race, refusing territorial limits, and with an aggressive theocratic overlay that claims tribal superiority over the entire rest of the world.
Here is a picture of the New Zealand cricket team. In the last twelve months, New Zealand cricket teams have fielded payers including Hamish Rutherford, Peter Fulton, Colin Munro, Dean Brownlie, Ross Taylor, Rob Nicol, Corey Anderson, Grant Elliott, Jimmy Neesham, Kyle Mills, Adam Milne and Mark Craig, not to mention the McCullum brothers. But if I told you that Alex Salmond was the leader of all Scots around the world, including the Black Caps, you would quite rightly call me a nutter.
We would not tolerate the level of racism in any other country that we tolerate from Israel. There was a huge outcry against Labour MP Paul Flynn who dared question whether it was sensible to send a strongly professed Zionist Jew as British ambassador to Israel, but when the Israeli government itself proclaim the political leadership of all Jews all over the world, it is a logical impossibility not to ask the question.
I wish nothing but good to all people, including all Jewish people, but by their increasingly hardline racialist approach, their unceasing encroachment on Palestinian land and their rigorous adoption of all the racist mechanisms of an apartheid state internally, I feat that the window of opportunity for a peaceful future for those Jewish people living in what is currently Israel is closing fast.
It must be universally proclaimed: there is not a single racial group in the whole world from whom worldwide racial claims of political allegiance, or an internal racially based legislative order, are acceptable. Bennett’s remarks are beyond the limit of civilised political discourse.
@RoS: Help me out here. Who killed the children, then – special forces? Was the teacher & kids who hid, but witnessed some of the massacre, lying that it was that freak kid going around doing the shooting?
What is the outcome that the government wanted in your theory, and what has been achieved as a result? (Bear in mind that no new gun laws have been forthcoming.)
Why did you reference that one FBI table, and make suggestions that actors were involved. Were real children/teachers killed or not? You need to get that part of the story straight too. Come on, you’re all over the place on this one.
@RoS: “Its obviously too big a scenario for you to comprehend”
On the contrary, it’s obviously too stupid a scenario for any rational person to swallow.
Tony_0pmoc
30 Oct, 2014 – 12:24 am
“I have done all The Work To Prepare it For Erection…”
“My Wife will help Me To Erect It…”
“..I have treated [it] with Olive Oil…”
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I wish you good luck Tony.
The main problem I have with CT is that humans talk and some have a conscience which bothers them if they know something and don’t tell. Now if they are threatened in some malevolent manner, they may keep quiet for all time, but they can’t kill hundreds of co-conspirators without drawing attention. Plus there’s that government incompetence thing. Even CIA shows bureaucratic mismanagement and strident incompetence.
Having said that, many whistleblowers have shown with evidence that conspiracies exist.
Its almost as big a coincidence as 7/7 (with the bombs going off at only those four stations where live training drills were taking place), all four trolls here getting a pretzel stuck in their throats at the same time as this post came out – their silence is deafening.
@RoS: Help me out here. Who killed the children, then – special forces? Was the teacher & kids who hid, but witnessed some of the massacre, lying that it was that freak kid going around doing the shooting?
What is the outcome that the government wanted in your theory, and what has been achieved as a result? (Bear in mind that no new gun laws have been forthcoming.)
Why did you reference that one FBI table, and make suggestions that actors were involved. Were real children/teachers killed or not? You need to get that part of the story straight too. Come on, you’re all over the place on this one.
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Glenn UK
Wolfgang Halbig has the perfect combination of expertise to evaluate what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School:
Law enforcement: Florida State Trooper, US Customs Agent.
Education: teacher, assistant principal, principal.
Current school safety expert: trained key personnel at over 4,000 US school districts, and over 3,500 school safety officers.
His conclusion after ten months of motivated investigation:
“In my professional opinion, [Sandy Hook was] a scripted event… in planning for maybe two, two and a half years.”
Mr. Halbig’s response is demand for criminal arrests of “leaders” involved in Sandy Hook based on rational embrace of the public evidence he explains in the interview:
law enforcement parked 1/4 mile away upon arrival. Why didn’t they rush to a heart-wrenching emergency if it really occurred?
no trauma helicopters were ordered. This is unheard of for an actual emergency.
no paramedics were allowed in the school. This is unheard of.
officials refuse to say who declared all 26 people dead. By law, this must come from a doctor. This refusal of so much basic information indicates lies and cover-ups.
official narrative claims emergency personnel didn’t find the school secretary and nurse after 4 hours of searching.
this “event” included a traffic sign lit with the message, “everyone must sign in.” Officials refuse any comment on this element that would be present for a staged event/drill.
porta potties were on site; again with no comment by officials and consistent with holding a staged event.
no names were listed for the 26 children and chorus director at the 2013 Super Bowl event in honor of Sandy Hook. The children resemble the alleged shooting victims. It’s unimaginable to not list these names for such a huge deal.
no lawsuits filed by parents for negligence against school district. This is unheard of.
a shooter with Aspergers would have poor motor skills and muscle tone – how did he carry all the gear and shoot with such precision? This combination is impossible to imagine.
2 homicide investigators threatened Mr. Halbig for making inquiries consistent with his professional duties to learn about this event for future school safety.
Newtown Public Schools won’t return any calls. Mr. Halbig says this non-cooperation to contribute information for other schools’ safety is unheard of.
the FBI classified the report on Sandy Hook. This has never been done before, and indicates a cover-up of all the evidence that this was a staged event.
radio transmissions are consistent in tone and content for a drill, not an actual emergency.
multiple weapons reported at a limited crime scene were never found. This is not credible.
law enforcement sent a kindergarten girl from the hall to stay at the crime scene of room 8 to be alone with dead bodies. This is a ridiculous claim that demands investigation and answers.
no parents viewed the bodies of their children. This is also unheard of.
no documents are being released via Freedom of Information Act requests. This is unheard of.
trauma services were never requested. This would never occur.
tearing down the school is consistent with destruction of evidence, given the HUGE gaps between official accounts and the evidence.
there’s zero evidence that a bio-hazard company was contacted to clean blood, bodily fluids, and officials refuse comment. This is impossible.
Mr. Halbig’s inquiries of who installed the school security system has been met with silence. This is unheard of to not get this information to improve other schools.
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Too stupid a scenario yeah right.
Start doing some homework, and open your eyes.
MK
30 Oct, 2014 – 8:51 am
“Racism, or more correctly ethnocentrism, exists in Israel, and after 66 years of continuous conflict with Israel’s Arab inhabitants (who have come to be known as Palestinians) I would expect Israeli Jews to be more racist than they actually are.” Etc…
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I take it you are standing in for Habbabkuk on this thread MK.
A Libyan man can sue the UK government over claims he was illegally sent back to Libya and tortured, the Court of Appeal has ruled.
Abdul-Hakim Belhaj alleges that former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and MI6 were complicit in arranging his and his wife’s rendition from China in 2004.
The High Court had ruled the case could not be heard in the UK courts because it could damage foreign relationships.
But appeal judges said the claims were so “grave” a court should hear them.
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Sue the UK government over a rendition, now there’s a first.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29831112
“Interesting point. The Scottish clans seem to be what remained in North Britain (including part of Lancashire and Cumbria) of the old Celtic social structure: hierachical, autocratic, benevolent. Having been pushed to the fringes of the island by successive invasions they nevertheless managed to retain some sort of ownership of the least economically productive areas. The comparison might be better made with the Palestinian Arabs.”
But the point I was making was in reply to Craig’s statement about being called a nutter for suggesting that Salmond was the head of all Scots all over the world. That is only because we have a mind set that would not see that as normal. Other people have different ways of seeing things, other races look at things differently as did the Scots in the not so distant past past. I don’t know that we have the right to say that our way is right and other people’s ways are wrong.
“149 comments and not a peep out of Habbabkuk, ResDis or Kempe; our resident Zionists.”
Why does this matter so much to you (and a couple of others)?
I’m curious.
“I agree Fred. That different approach being a secular, democratic single state, consisting of all Israel/Palestine with guaranteed equality of all its citizens.”
I don’t think it is our place to say one state or two states, that is something which must be decided by the Palestinians and Israelis. Including I think Palestinian refugees.
@Glenn_UK
CanSpeccy: “All humans attach high emotional significance to rules of conduct, a characteristic without which human society and civilization would be impossible.”
Which has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
Not only does it have to do with religion it is the essential basis of religion.
Religious belief consists in an irrational attachment to a set of moral beliefs. The stuff about God and angels is just an elaboration and is unnecessary as is evident from the fact that it is absent from the some religions: Chinese ancestor worship for example, or Communism or political correctness, or Bentham’s rubbish about the greatest good of the greatest number.
You can call religion all lies if you like. But so what if it is all lies? Religion is about ethics and ethics are not based on objective reality, they are based in emotion, and they are of great evolutionary significance. Without a set of irrational ethical beliefs, which is to say a religion, no society could function and humanity as we know it would not exist.
The latest Private Eye front cover.
http://33.media.tumblr.com/c325aa3bbbd46ae81839cca93efc0324/tumblr_ne5kwhK8VC1sqmjg8o1_500.jpg
Israel’s Closure of the Al Aqsa Mosque is a Declaration of War
Today, Israel the occupying power closed Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem for the first time since 1967 preventing worshipers from accessing the site violating their right to freedom of worship and increasing the ongoing tension in Jerusalem. Israel’s decision follows a UNSC emergency meeting held yesterday on the critical situation in occupied East Jerusalem in response to the continuous escalation, attacks in East Jerusalem and attempts to divide Al Aqsa mosque. President Mahmoud Abbas spokesman announced earlier today, “This dangerous Israeli escalation -closure of Al Aqsa Mosque- is a declaration of war on the Palestinian people and its sacred places and on the Arab and Islamic nation,” adding “Jerusalem and its holy Muslim and Christian places are a red line and we won’t accept any harm to them.”
Jerusalem has been subject to a vicious Judaization campaign whereby Israel, the occupying power, has been altering its demography, character, legal status and geography by creating facts on the ground through continued settlement building and expansion, demolishing and confiscating houses, revoking residencies, desecration of Muslim and Christian Holy sites. Furthermore, Palestinian residents of Jerusalem suffer from violence, discrimination and racism particularly by Israeli extremists who assault and kidnap children and vandalize properties and holy sites. Most recently, Israel declared its intention to construct additional 1,000 units to the previously announced 2,600 units in East Jerusalem earlier this month. Israel has continued with the confiscation of properties, including the seizure last week of 35 Palestinian homes by extremist settlers in the Silwan neighbourhood displacing hundreds of Palestinian families. In addition, the Knesset has been discussing a bill to divide AL Aqsa mosque.
Ambassador Hassassian said “We demand the immediate intervention of the UK government to stop Israel’s aggression, provocations and incitement and illegal activities in Jerusalem.” And added, “Israel is negating our people’s right and connection to Jerusalem. These illegal actions are creating an explosive situation that abolishes any prospects for peace”
http://palestinianmissionuk.cmail1.com/t/ViewEmail/j/12410A471BD5E141/B44E59966011B3E644D0DD5392A9C75A
30 October 2014
“Clashes have erupted between Israeli security forces and Palestinian youths in occupied East Jerusalem a day after a gunman on a motorcycle shot and seriously wounded a far-right rabbi.
Israel announced the shutdown of the Al-Aqsa mosque following Wednesday’s shooting of Yehuda Glick, which police called an attempted assassination. The rabbi survived the attack, and the hospital where he was being treated said he was in serious but stable condition.
Glick is a member of the Temple Mount Faithful, a group which calls for “liberating the Temple Mount from Arab [Islamic] occupation”.
The group advocates rebuilding a Jewish temple at the religiously-important site, including the area containing the mosque.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/10/tension-jerusalem-after-shooting-rabbi-palestine-aqsa-i-2014103055714931193.html
A major bone of contention since Rome destroyed the Temple in the year 70.
Apologies if these have already been posted:
SodaStream to Close Factory in West Bank
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/31/world/middleeast/sodastream-to-close-factory-in-west-bank.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
and
Vatican rejects ridiculous “chosen people” claim, calls on Israel to end “occupation”
(October 8, 2014)
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/vatican-rejects-ridiculous-chosen-people-claim-calls-on-israel-to-end-occupation/
M-P and the Holy Grail thing, as historically accurate as any other source..
“King of the Britons”
“King of the who?”
“The Britons”
Other people do have different ways of looking at things, differently for each individual even amongst themselves and still even if lumped together as a group, I think though there are at base no ‘others’, except only in the sense of a n other person. To suggest there is some sort of groupthink goes on, seemingly by psychic means on the basis of arbitrary labels applied to them by those in positions of power over them, or aspirant to it, is quite absurd.
Some of those ‘blackcaps’ aren’t even wearing black-caps, therefore the whole thing is a great big fraud. This is the level of logic or lack of it one must stoop to, to even engage with such a convoluted nonsensical desperate trolling. You have to sink to their level of silliness and wilful pig-headedness. There is a line in Tom Sharpe’s Vintage Stuff which suggested a character had difficulty distinguishing the literal from the metaphorical, and had to be careful about saying things like ‘go and jump in the lake’, I think we’re engaging with just such a person, who really should go and boil their head.
Mods/admins note that the blackcaps photo link has comments enabled in its own right. Is this a covert channel?
USA Police Oath of Honour
“On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have the courage
to hold myself and others
accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the Constitution,
the community,
and the agency I serve,
so help me God.”
8 white police officers shoot dead 1 mentally ill black homeless man who was holding a penknife:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform-free-speech-racial-justice/eight-police-officers-fired-46-times-my-mentally
I don’t know that we have the right to say that our way is right and other people’s ways are wrong.
I’ll remember that the next time you lay into the SNP
🙂
THE Labour party in Scotland faces near annihilation in the next general election, according to the latest Ipsos Mori poll.
Labour in Scotland would be left with just four Scottish seats if there was a General Election now, according to new IPSOS Mori poll commissioned for STV.
The Ipsos Mori survey shows Labour would poll 23 per cent of the Scottish vote, a level of support that translates to just four seats in Scotland.
In comparison, support for the SNP has surged to 52 per cent, giving them a projected 54 of the 59 Scottish seats at Westminster. The Liberal Democrats would have one and the Conservative party would be left without any Scottish MPs.
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No wonder Ed Miliband is coming up to meet the staff at his Scotland branch, Miliband will also brief Jim Murphy the possible next Scottish branch manager, about how to halt the rot.
I wonder if David Cameron will come up to his Scottish branch to have a word with David Mundell, on how to make the Tories less toxic.
Religions may codify rules of conduct, but most if not all of them are self-evident moral conduct, we don’t need no Spaghetti Monster or its noodly servants here on earth to tell us what is right and wrong*. And they are not in the least observant of their own rules, than any others, there’s a religion that says thou shalt not do this that and the other, but the ruling only applies it seems to doing this, that and the other to their own co-religionists, everyone else is fair game. Religion is then used not to proscribe the objectively wrong, but to assent to it. Religion is an obsolete artifact of earlier power and control structures, we have spin doctors and mainstream media now to tell us what to think and who is unworthy. Religious believers then are nutters, being told what to do, and not, by other nutters.
*The Jam – The Modern World
“This is the modern world we don’t need no one
To tell us what’s right or wrong”
Dreoilin
30 Oct, 2014 – 3:41 pm
“149 comments and not a peep out of Habbabkuk, ResDis or Kempe; our resident Zionists.”
“Why does this matter so much to you (and a couple of others)?”
“I’m curious.”
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You’re not curious Dreoilin; your defending your lover Habbabkuk.
However it matter because a pattern has emerged where the above band (together with others) defend Zionism and attack any poster that dares to criticize Israel; except when it is Craig that does the criticism.
They then go quiet until another, non-Israel thread appears.
What Craig has said in this new thread is quite true and I suspect the Zionist apologists know it is true and have no honest or logical arguments to put forward.
Any arguments they could put forward would be quickly shot down by Craig, myself and others as has happened in the past.
Don’t YOU find it strange that Israel’s defenders have gone AWAL all at the same time?
Likely they are not here, Doug, because they know that on this subject and on this thread they are on a hiding to bugger all.
“Don’t YOU find it strange that Israel’s defenders have gone AWAL all at the same time?”
I assume you mean AWOL, Dougie boy.
What I find strange is that any time they’re not here, the comments on their absence come thick and fast. It’s almost as if you (and several others) miss them!
“You’re not curious Dreoilin; your defending [your lover] Habbabkuk.”
I am curious. People here can’t seem to make up their minds. One minute they’re calling for them to be banned, the next minute they’re whining because they’re not here …
What’s to defend? That he’s not “trolling” and you’re offended by that?
LOL How daft can you get?
Tony M
Religions may codify rules of conduct, but most if not all of them are self-evident moral conduct…
That’s not what you said before, which was:
religious belief is now largely only the preserve of the insane or mentally defective…
So let’s stick with the phenomenon of religious belief, which, as I stated, is universal to humanity. Those who don’t believe in God don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything — Spiritualism, Vegetarianism, Communism, Liberalism, or some other creed usually worse by far than that inculcated by the Christian gospel.
And if you have no religious belief, you must be a psychopath.
But when you say:
we have spin doctors and mainstream media now to tell us what to think and who is unworthy
you have that right. The spin-doctors, the media the corporate interests and Hollywood are what dictate the moral beliefs, which is to say the religious beliefs of the masses.
But you are confused if you believe in what you call “the objectively wrong.” There is no objective morality any more than there is an objective religion. All is emotion based: emotion inculcated by the fear of god, of ancestral spirits or of the hatred of the politically correct, who would burn a racist if they had the chance as readily as a 17th century Catholic would burn a protestant. In fact the politically correct do burn their enemies, who they first call terrorists and then attack with white phosphorus and napalm.
“In fact the politically correct do burn their enemies, who they first call terrorists and then attack with white phosphorus and napalm.”
These politically correct are the ones you support vociferously here and no doubt elsewhere. The first step is to demonise them and make them the ‘other’ as you do with Muslims, East Europeans who dare to seek what they hope will a better life elsewhere, especially in England being the most obvious examples. You set the indigenous British islanders of some earlier period in time as somehow qualitatively better than anyone else, I suspect you buy into the whole zionist master race claptrap as well, you’re certainly willing to the bidding of those who promote such vile philosophies.
You’re frustratingly inconsistent and hypocritical. Reasonable then lacking all reason.
Dreoilin
30 Oct, 2014 – 5:18 pm
“I assume you mean AWOL, Dougie boy.”
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AWAL. Acronym for Absent Without Authorized Leave
AWOL. Acronym for Absent Without Official Leave
Take your pick Dreo babe.
@RoS: You might be willing to accept the “professional” opinion of Wolfgang Halbig (after all, Alex Jones takes him seriously!). This freak also takes quite a lot of money from the easily deluded. He gets around quite a bit, though, doesn’t he?
Does he/you actually have any evidence at all, or just “Oh – this was odd. That was strange” and so on?
Let me just take a sample of your whataboutery:
RoS: “no names were listed for the 26 children and chorus director at the 2013 Super Bowl event in honor of Sandy Hook. The children resemble the alleged shooting victims. It’s unimaginable to not list these names for such a huge deal. no lawsuits filed by parents for negligence against school district. This is unheard of.”
The dead were all listed, and their names are easily found:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/12/15/ct-state-police-release-names-of-victims-in-school-shooting-massacre/
I didn’t know that being named in the 2013 Super Bowl was an essential part of the death certification process – that’s fascinating! Clearly, anyone not named simply could not have died. Brilliant.
Some children resembled “alleged” victims? Oh dear – that’s conclusive. There’s no way one child can resemble another in a small town, is there? It’s a well known fact, too, that either siblings look totally different, or they die at the same time.
There have been 89 school shootings since this massacre. Are you telling me that every one was accompanied by lawsuits? And all those hundreds before were too? That is a complete untruth.
Anyway, let’s press on…
“a shooter with Aspergers would have poor motor skills and muscle tone – how did he carry all the gear and shoot with such precision? This combination is impossible to imagine.
Is that a fact about Asperger’s? Let’s see… http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/tc/aspergers-syndrome-symptoms
Err – no, it isn’t. “Your child may be late in learning to use a fork or spoon, ride a bike, or catch a ball.” – That’s one of a number of possibilities, not a certainty, and not anything like as severe as your source implies. Really, is this the level of intellectual rigour your Halbig champion brings to this “debate”?
The rest of it is just throwing doubt, “This would never happen”, “Unheard of” and so on. Yet every point I check at random, there is good reason. For instance:
“no documents are being released via Freedom of Information Act requests. This is unheard of.
Actually, on wikipedia you have this: “After the town clerk’s office was inundated with requests from the media,[207] Connecticut House of Representatives Republican Dan Carter introduced legislation that would restrict access to public information available under the Freedom of Information Act.[207]”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/24/connecticut-mulls-death-certificate-limits-after-newtown-massacre/
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And so on, and so forth. And you have the nerve to tell me “open your eyes”, indeed.
The Ex Bouncer from Moldova’s retort to Swedens recognition of Palestine.
“Stockholm needs to understand relations in the Middle East are more complicated than self-assembly furniture at IKEA, said Liberman.”