There was never any doubt that the accusation of terrorism against Moazzam Begg was, once again, a tissue of politically motivated lies. What is still more appalling, I am told by a Home Office source that the decision to arrest and detain him was taken by Theresa May herself. This involvement of politicians in the abuse of individuals by the state is appalling.
Jacqui Smith did the same thing as Home Secretary, grandstanding about her role in the front page arrest of twelve Muslims in the North West of England, not one of whom was charged with any offence. The “bomb ingredient” the police found on that occasion turned out to be nothing but sugar.
Theresa May was lording it at the Tory party conference with a ludicrous speech about combating the “terrorist menace” which we are bombing Iraq to enhance, not decrease. At the same time as being acclaimed for further attacks on civil liberties, she was responsible for the completely unjustified imprisonment of the Muslim community’s most elegant spokesman against abuses, including torture, of state power against Muslims.
The other disgusting aspect of this case is the complicity of the judicial system with the state in the abuse of liberty by right wing politicians. There are no longer any effective checks on executive power in the British state. To cap this cycle of total power, Sky News last night were suggesting (and I understand behind the Murdoch paywall it is being propagated today) that Moazzam really is a terrorist and had been released as an appeasement to aid Islamic State British hostages. This total lie is a further snide attack by the terror state.
The truth of the persecution of Begg, who was detained to stop him researching British complicity in extraordinary rendition to Syria by Blair and Straw, is evidently something the Establishment does not want to enter a wider public consciousness.
In any decent society, Theresa May would have to resign over her involvement in the appalling mistreatment of Moazzam Begg. Instead she is touted as a future Prime Minister for the toughness on “terrorism”. That tells you everything about what a stinking, corrupt society the United Kingdom now has become.
Anon1
“Yet it’s all somehow the fault of the West. And you wonder why your views never gain any traction.”
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Yes, Anon, I agree that the two “responses” to my question – from Jives and Republicofscotland – while not unexpected are nevertheless disappointing.
But your second sentence is even more accurate and pertinent. One senses, on this blog, a permanent state of irritation, despair even, that the mass of people evidently do not subscribe to the ideas, ideologies, phobias and obsessions which are the daily bread and butter of the Denizens of this blog.
Of course, the reason for this is not that the Denizens are professional malcontents (to put it kindly )out of touch with real life and reality but rather that the mass of people are ignorant and/or have been brainwashed. If only they could see the truth, revealed only to the select few, is the bitter thought that haunts the minds of the Denizens.
As the Chairman of Hardy Spicers might have said of the Denizens: “they are poor dears”.
“Mats”
“That aside, what do you think really happened on 9/11?”
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Please answer Anon1’s entirely reasonable question. I too would be interested to hear what you think really happened on 9/11.
Habbabkuk
“Of course, the reason for this is not that the Denizens are professional malcontents (to put it kindly )out of touch with real life and reality but rather that the mass of people are ignorant and/or have been brainwashed. If only they could see the truth, revealed only to the select few, is the bitter thought that haunts the minds of the Denizens.”
Lolz..You really are a faux-patronising old tart Habba,desperate for attention.It’s actually hilarious how inane you are.
#TotesBants
Do you buy fertaliser for your remote croft, Fred?
O/T but interesting
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MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. Sergei Litvinov, a private of the Dnieper battalion has admitted killing women and children in the Luhansk region for remuneration offered by tycoon Ihor Kolomoyskyi, Russia’s Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin said on Wednesday.
The Russian Investigative Committee has brought official charges against Sergei Litvinov for murdering innocent civilians during the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.
“Litvinov has testified that he personally killed peaceful civilians, including women and children who were not linked to the military conflict, in the villages of Melovoye, Shirokiy, Makarovo and Kamyshnoye /in Ukraine’s Lugansk region/ on the basis of information provided by anonymous sources,” Vladimir Markin, the head of the Russian Investigative Committee, said, adding Litvinov had received remuneration from oligarch Igor Kolomoisky’s personal funds for committing the murders.
Russia’s Investigations Committee knows the names of commanders of Ukrainian Armed Forces units who perform criminal orders of the Ukrainian state leaders, Vladimir Markin, the official spokesman for the committee said on Wednesday.
“Today we have the names of many commanders of army units, as well as militants of the Right Sector and the National Guard who are performing criminal orders of the Ukrainian military and state leadership.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752232
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If true it would possibly confirm that Ukraine isn’t as innocent as it may seem, then again TASS, is part of the Russian news agency.
“Of course, the reason for this is not that the Denizens are professional malcontents (to put it kindly )out of touch with real life and reality but rather that the mass of people are ignorant and/or have been brainwashed. If only they could see the truth, revealed only to the select few, is the bitter thought that haunts the minds of the Denizens.”
Spot on! If you don’t share in their deranged conspiracy theories then you are either too terrified to speak, a sheep, a victim, brainwashed or part of the conspiracy.
Notice that never once is the option given that you have seen all the so-called ‘evidence’ they can muster and still come to the conclusion that it’s a load of old crock!
Lolz..
Its The 5pm Tag-Team High-5 Felching Daily Show!
“Well the fact that they weren’t charged indicates there was clearly not enough sugar to make a bomb? i.e. industrial quantities.
What is problematic for you to comprehend in that Fred?”
But the fact that they weren’t released but held by the Border Agency for deportation could just as easily have indicated otherwise.
I don’t tend to make assumptions based on wishful thinking, I wait until I can ascertain the facts.
What is problematic for you to comprehend in that?
Spot on! If you don’t share in their deranged conspiracy theories then you are either too terrified to speak, a sheep, a victim, brainwashed or part of the conspiracy.
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Anon1
You forgot to add the option, “Or just plain stupid.”
BREAKING NEWS
Mr Goss is a modest man (no, I shan’t carry on with Mr Atlee’s quip!) and so has not, as far as I know, drawn attention to one of his latest articles on his own blog, (johngossip blogspot) here. He has, however, done so on Squonk’s blog.
I’m much less modest and I also recognise an important article when I see one, so let me do it for Mr Goss.
It is an article entitled “Is the US trying to wipe out the black population of Africa”.
Here is the beginning :
“This is a serious question. One respected US doctor and professor of plant pathology, Dr Cyril Broderick, believes his country may be testing out strains of Ebola and Aids viruses on native Africans. Why would be difficult to understand were it not for a flagging economy at home which is only kept afloat because of petrodollar debtor states. It is impossible for America to eradicate its own debt. This is the real reason for the wars in Iraq and Libya. The article just linked explains why. It is the best summary I have read this year.”
Thank you, Mr Goss, for bringing this gentleman’s theory – which you evidently share – to the attention of Squonk readers. You can reciprocate by thanking me for bringing it to the attention of CM readers.
Jives: “Lolz..You really are a faux-patronising old tart Habba,desperate for attention.”
Then don’t encourage him.
Israel’s national airline is facing outrage over what critics call the “bullying” of women on flights by ultra-Orthodox Jewish men who refuse to sit next to them.
The issue was brought to international attention last week, when a flight from New York to Tel-Aviv descended into an “11-hour long nightmare”.
A group of Haredi Jewish passengers refused to sit next to women, believing that the sexes should be segregated.
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Not content with exterminating the Palestinians, they’re now turning on their own kind.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-airline-facing-calls-to-stop-bullying-of-female-passengers-by-ultraorthodox-jews-9766617.html
“Its (sic) The 5pm Tag-Team High-5 Felching Daily Show!”
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Yup, and only on Channel Truth and Insight. For real fun, go to Channel Crazy and watch the Ben and Republic show, you know it makes (non)sense! 🙂
Republicofscotland
“Israel’s national airline is facing outrage over what critics call the “bullying” of women on flights by ultra-Orthodox Jewish men who refuse to sit next to them.”
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I should have thought that the outrage you refer to redounds to the credit of those Israelis who were outraged and would, therefore, be welcomed.
Unless you’re just a simple Jew-hater, of course.
Fred,
They were not convicted with anything related to terrorism in their trial thus the sugar is irrelvant.
The Border Agency is a completely seperate issue from the terrorism case.
Its quite simple really Fred.
Don’t know if this has already been posted but just in case.
The funniest video since the star wars glasgow heckling, the best thing to come out of any party conference ever, the most side splitting speech never made, you get the idea. It’s a funny you tube clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
“They were not convicted with anything related to terrorism in their trial thus the sugar is irrelvant.”
Which trial are you referring to there please?
Thanks, Phil, brilliant.
Cameron? Talking sense? Music to my ears?
Hats off to Cassetteboy, that must’ve taken days to compile.
Here it is again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
Fred,
Apologies,i meant they were not charged prior to their release with any terrorism related offences.I dont think there was a trial.
They were deported after the authorities could find no evidence of terrorism activity,including industrial size quantities of sugar.
fred
“A 2lb bag of sugar in a kitchen cabinet could not be considered bomb making material. A 2cwt sack in a garden shed could”
Granddad, what’s a cwt?
“Apologies,i meant they were not charged prior to their release with any terrorism related offences.I dont think there was a trial.”
I know there wasn’t a trial, I know this because I check on the facts rather than just make assumptions. That is the way I work and that is the way I will continue to work. You can do as you like but don’t go criticising me, I reserve the right to form my opinions my own way whether you like it or not.
“Granddad, what’s a cwt?”
It’s one 20th of a tonne. A tonne is almost exactly the same as a metric ton because they both from the same origin. A ton is a large barrel of wine, this is why the capacity of ships is measured in tons, it is how many barrels of wine they could carry.
Phil
thanks for that..really funny… 1.25 million views in one day!
Combined with the other ingredients one tenth of a tonne of sugar is the beginning of an enormous cake.
Yup, and only on Channel Truth and Insight. For real fun, go to Channel Crazy and watch the Ben and Republic show, you know it makes (non)sense!
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Habb
That may well be your opinion, but you can’t teach an old dog new tricks,by that I mean, you’re back to your old traits of commenting on other folks comments instead of producing your own, a common trait of a troll.
Johnstone, I hadn’t noticed, that is a lot of views.
Why should I know what happened on September 11th?2 buildings got hit and 3 fell down.Bit like skittles.They removed all the evidence toutsuite never to be seen again.Most witness,s have met untimely deaths.1st responders dying in large numbers.Nothing larger than a finger nail found in rubble except Atta,s passäport.because nothing unusual happened that day they omitted most of the unexplainable events from the inquiry.
Do you believe what the media and US goverment have told you?Everything kosha?
Some peoples do swallow everything.Thats okay.
Mats
“Why should I know what happened on September 11th?”
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Well, judging from your posts, you apparently know enough to rubbish the official story. It would be normal, if you disbelieve the official story, to have your own belief as to what actually happened. What is it, Mats?
And now go and have another schnapps, you pseudo-Swedish simpleton. Or several.
RoS
“you’re back to your old traits of commenting on other folks comments”
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Only, my dear chap, when those comments are so nonsensical as to warrant a reproof.
Unfortunately, that is often.
Why should I know what happened on September 11th?2 buildings got hit and 3 fell down.Bit like skittles.They removed all the evidence toutsuite never to be seen again.Most witness,s have met untimely deaths.1st responders dying in large numbers.Nothing larger than a finger nail found in rubble except Atta,s passäport.because nothing unusual happened that day they omitted most of the unexplainable events from the inquiry.
Do you believe what the media and US goverment have told you?Everything kosha?
Some peoples do swallow everything.Thats okay.
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Mats
Lets put it this way, they spent at least $60 million Dollars, trying to impeach Bill Clinton, the money spent investigating 9/11 by the 9/11 Commission was far less, which do you deem more important.