I was told by a member of the Metropolitan Police Operation Lydd team that they believe there are grounds to prosecute Jack Straw, but that the Crown Prosecution Service will bury it. That was over two years ago when I gave my own sworn evidence to the investigation.
That cover-up by the CPS is now underway – and it is extremely unsubtle. The mainstream media barely reported that the first file has been passed to the CPS on Operation Lydd. You would think that a massive police investigation into criminal activity by Jack Straw and Sir Mark Allen, among others, would merit more of a splash, but not in our corporate controlled media. The timing was auspicious because, in the parallel civil case, the Court of Appeal has rejected the Government’s defence of “National Security” to prevent the case from even being heard. This after Jack Straw and Sir Mark Allen arranged the kidnap and deportation to torture in Libya of Mr Belhadj, his pregnant wife and children – only one of hundreds of such crimes in which the British state was deeply involved.
Infamously, the British Embassy in Washington had been lobbying the US authorities relentlessly to prevent the publication of the Senate Intelligence Committee report on extraordinary rendition, specifically on the grounds that this would weaken Jack Straw’s defence. That defence rests on the grounds that details of kidnap and torture would annoy the United States and thus damage Britain’s security interests. As a blanket license for state involvement in torture, it only takes a second’s thought to realise how astonishingly dangerous that doctrine is. The High Court swallowed it. Thank God, the Court of Appeal did not.
So the Courts having ruled against Jack Straw, there are now two lines of defence between Straw and Sir Mark Allen, and a long spell in the pokey. The first is that the Government is appealing to the Supreme Court in London to have the case kicked out once again on “National Security” grounds. The second line of defence is the Crown Prosecution Service.
I can give you very substantial evidence that a cover-up is in progress within the CPS. Astonishingly the Lydd file has been passed within the CPS not to the serious crime division, but to the Counter-Terrorism Division. Yet terrorism is not the alleged crime here. The crimes are Gross Misconduct in Public Office, Conspiracy to Torture, Conspiracy to Kidnap and Abduct. We might relate them rhetorically to terrorism, but they are not that legally.
The incredible truth is that the file has been passed not to the Division which deals with the crimes allegedly committed by the perpetrators, Messrs Straw, Allen et al. It has rather been passed to the Divison which deals with the crime falsely alleged against the VICTIM of the case, Mr Belhadj. That simple fact tells you all you need to know about the attitude of the CPS to Operation Lydd.
In fact, the Counter-Terrorism Division of CPS works on a daily basis with public servants and security service functionaries who are themselves deeply implicated in the crimes being uncovered by Operation Lydd. A cover-up is certain.
The British Establishment really does stink.
Footnote: I phoned the CPS Press Office to give them a chance to respond. I got through to a spokesperson and left details and my number. They have not come back to me.
17 posts from Mary in even less than 17 hours.
I must try harder!
“@ Dreolin, its not just that one particular case of a celebrity’s daughter as you make out” –Nevermind
I didn’t make out anything of the sort. I quoted from the BBC:
“The issue of internet trolls recently came to the fore after online rape threats were made”
and the link you posted is about “violent video games and sexting”.
“Violent video games, the sharing of indecent images on mobile phones, and other types of digital communications, are harming young people’s mental health, MPs warned on Wednesday, amid evidence of big increases in self-harm and serious psychological problems among the under-18s.”
Get a grip, people. Mary is not being “threatened” by anyone.
“Any thoughts about Tony M’s post on “Brittan’s buggery”?”
Not really. I don’t read Tony M anymore. Not only is he long-winded and boring (and can’t use paragraphs), but he said of me that I had “never been anywhere near Ireland – more like Cheltenham”.
At least, that’s how I remember it. Can’t be bothered looking it up in the archives.
Must say, the definition of troll as being “a poster with whom I do not agree” is stretching it a bit. But it’s not uncommon – out comes the “troll” charge in any number of forums, as an attempt to intimidate another to halt their contributions to a discussion.
When it comes to making silly insults online (such as making racial slurs, or calling someone names), imho that person should just be regarded as an uncouth idiot. Court action by the state should not be required, any more than it is warranted when insults are traded in public.
Threats are another matter altogether, particularly if they are specific, and the recipient has reason to fear actual harm. But referring to “Brittan’s buggery” surely falls into the category of a fairly harmless insult. Does anyone take it seriously? Is it likely to defame, and cause damage? Is there even a suggestion that anything illegal took place?
http://phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/goat_riding_tricycle.htm
When Father Rode the Goat
Author Unknown
The house is full of arcana, and mystery profound;
We do not dare to run about or make the slightest sound.
We leave the big piano shut and do not strike a note;
the doctor’s been here seven times since father rode the goat.
He joined the lodge a week ago; Got in at 4:00 a.m. —-
And sixteen brethren brought him home, though he says that he brought them.
His wrist was sprained and one big rip had rent his Sunday coat —-
There must have been a lively time when father rode the goat.
He’s resting on the couch today! And practicing his signs —-
The hailing signal, the working grip, and other monkeyshines;
He mutters passwords ‘neath his breath, And other things he’ll quote —-
They surely had an evening’s work when father rode the goat.
He has a gorgeous uniform, all gold and red and blue —-
A hat with plumes and yellow braid, And golden badges too.
But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim;
we wonder if he rode the goat —- or if the goat rode him!
Glenn
“But referring to “Brittan’s buggery” surely falls into the category of a fairly harmless insult. Does anyone take it seriously? Is it likely to defame, and cause damage? Is there even a suggestion that anything illegal took place?”
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I believe the answer to all three questions is “yes”.
Re the 1st question : several people have posted words to that effect on the context of their various conspiracy theories(although more cautiously than Tony M) and there are certainly even more who are convinced that it is true. And that just applies to this blog (there is a wider world outside).
Re the 2nd and 3rd questions : claims like that are certainly defamatory because the context in which they are made. Buggery per se may no longer be illegal (I don’t know if the old statutes are still on the books or have been repealed or have fallen into disuse) but the claim on this blog – and elsewhere – is made in the context of the various child abuse scandals; the charge, therefore, is not so much of buggery per se but of buggery as an expression of illegal sexual activity.
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It may well be that Tony M was under the influence when he posted but it may also be that he thinks – mistakenly – that making indictable allegations on the internet is somehow beyond the remit and reach of the law. If so, he is mistaken; And, incidentally, he does this blog and its founder no favours by being unable to control himself.
It is now 14h00 UK time, 15h00 CET time and early in the mornong in the USA (Pacific coast).
Time, in fact, for California Ben to be clocking in again.
Can we hope, I wonder, for some considered and substantial posts from him on the outcome and likely consequences of the passage of the US Senate to Republican control?
It would be refreshing to get something (possibly) useful and informative from him in lieu of his usual “gnomic garbage”, would it not?
Just askin’!
IMHO, it makes no difference which electronic communication tool one uses Dreolin, its there in words and it hurts.
Back to the subject of the trials against the handlers of Moussa Koussa, the grandmaster of torture and state terror.
What did he know of flight UTA 772 Sep. 1989, exploding over the Sahara on its way to Chad?
What does he know about Lockerbie and the Bojinka plot? I don’t think simply grilling him in an interview is the appropriate solution to finding out what he knows, hypnosis and/or other methods he used to get at people he held during his time as Intelligence right hand man of Ghaddafi, by means of his own methods would make him realise and speak up.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/6593/moussa-koussa-and-mystery-uta-flight-772
and what of the murder of PC Ivonne Fletcher, his expulsion from Britain spoke volumes then?
Jack Straw, in 2011, ignoring that he was involved in PC Fletchers death, claiming that Britain’s contact with Koussa only go more than a decade back. Oh what a little word smith.
Straw confirmed that Koussa’s contacts with Britain date back more than a decade, adding: “He has been an absolutely fundamentally important person in the operation of the Libyan regime, which itself is a shadowy regime.”
http://www.u.tv/News/Moussa-Koussa-will-not-be-offered-immunity-says-William-Hague/b4025781-c4d7-41d1-83c3-a1e8b9e86aa0
For that matter, Jack Straw probably needs the same treatment to make him speak up as Moussa and those he so ardently signed off during his reign, to be tortured abroad.
without Moussa being called and documents are revealed what his implications were in Ivonne Fletcher’s death and what relations/intelligence sharing existed then between the two countries, what he agreed with previous Governments of Blair, Major and Thatcher, it is very hard to find a base for what happened later during Straws period of global rendition and the torture of the Belhadj family.
KoWN – nice blog! And I learned a new word there – scaphism. Hmmm….
Scaphism + Jack Straw?
Certainly scaphism + Tony Blair, anyway.
Seconded in all points, so much better than a punch on the nose, Ba’al….
But, would scaphism make somebody speak the truth I wonder, would a voice be still be audible amongst the pain? and is it superior to boiling in oil? hmmmm, suppose there is two of them and one could find out.
Don’t let your axe grinding and pot stirring get in the way will you Dreoilin.
I have just read the comments on pages 4 and 5 of this thread – The Rush to Violence. I was in hospital at the time.
Your multiple comments there are quite enlightening. A rush of blood to the head.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/31406/comment-page-4/#comments
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/31406/comment-page-5/#comments
O/T but on a subject that we care about.
The Ukrainian people are in for a very difficult time according to these authors. Where are McCain, Nuland, Ashton, Kerry and the rest now?
Ukraine Elections Bring Society Closer to Brink of all Out War and Economic Collapse
by Dylan and Jo Murphy / November 5th, 2014
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/11/ukraine-elections-bring-society-closer-to-brink-of-all-out-war-and-economic-collapse/
Hang on I have some dirty linen somewhere……,
where were they again, ….
ahhhh can’t be bothered looking it up
I was going to suggest that maybe Craig’s MP might assist him in this matter with the CPS.
NBG. She is Laura Sandys, elected in 2010 and leaving next year.
Also saw this and did laugh out loud.
‘From 9 November 2006 to 22 March 2010, Laura Sandys was a director of Security Futures, together with Adam Werritty.’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Sandys
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05993984/SECURITY-FUTURES/directors-secretaries
Little by little.
5 November 2014 Last updated at 14:22
UK’s role in Iraq to be boosted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29916620
‘The UK is to boost its military role in Iraq to help local forces in their efforts to halt the advance of Islamic State extremists.
Military trainers will be sent within weeks to work at a US headquarters that has been established in the capital.’
Tony was talking to Kerry in Paris today. As Quartet representative. Still. Why?. (Closed press coverage – source US State Dept.)
Why has this article been taken from the front page? Its now only available in the archive.
In fact, on the front page you cannot see the archive for Nov 2014, so you can’t get to it from there.
The only way I got to this article was to perform a google search on the entire first sentence.
And was in Vietnam (again) on the 1st:
http://thutuong.chinhphu.vn:2012/Home/PM-welcomes-former-British-counterpart/201411/2638.vgp
the close and fruitful coordination between the Office of Tony Blair and the Vietnamese Ministry of Planning and Investment (MoPI) in facilitating FDI inflows via the model of PPP and strengthening the presence of foreign strategic investors in the Southeast Asian nation.
IOW, selling out VN to the hedge funds.
Some of the duller butter knives seem to think the Senate going to republicans has anything to do with anything. The choice between paper and plastic is illusory and I have said so. I don’t know the voter dynamics in the rest of the country but here in california there were initiatives like taking the pain-an-suffering cap from $250k to $1.1 million for medical malpractice was defeated handily. It would also require random drug tests on physicians. Over 60% voted no, again proving much voting is ignorant and ill-informed.
The ‘Muddle’ continues to defeat the concept of democratic republic. When you mix stupid with ignorant it’s not a good thing.
Nader was nearly lynched in 2000 for attempting to break up the corporate monopoly in Washington.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/nader-time-clean-out-top-dems-and-start
“With House Democrats bracing for Election Day losses on Tuesday, Ralph Nader is calling on Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other top party leaders to call it quits.
The prominent consumer advocate and perennial presidential candidate says the failure of those leaders to win the House gavel over three straight election cycle should means it’s time for a new crop of lawmakers to take control of the party.
“Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Steve Israel should now recognize the wisdom of baseball’s ‘three strikes and you’re out’ … step down from their posts and invite fresh leadership who can save the country from the ravages of today’s Republican party,” Nader said Tuesday in a statement. Hoyer (Md.) is the minority whip, and Israel (N.Y.) is chairman of the party’s campaign committee.
Nader is quick to praise the three leaders for their hard work and fundraising prowess. But, he added, “the result is just exemplifying the adage that nice guys finish last.”
“Your nasty turns of phrase puts you in the same stall as Fred.”
Fuck off and die retard cunt.
Nevermind, there’s another forum that’s out of the NATO Pact’s control, and that’s the US review of the Committee Against Torture this month. Since UN special procedures have described the US death camp complex in the legal terms of a crime against humanity – widespread and systematic – the treaty body can cast a broad net. There’s ample scope for bringing the facts of British complicity into this. The comeuppance need not wait until the Committee reviews the British government. Any country can revoke the official immunity of Straw or Allen as a legal countermeasure to internationally wrongful acts breaching peremptory norms of international law. Robert Lady is a fugitive right now, and as Britain withdraws from Europe and the nonaligned world, Straw and Allen may join Lady on the lam.
“IMHO, it makes no difference which electronic communication tool one uses Dreolin, its there in words and it hurts.” — Nevermind
I doubt if Mary is involved in violent video games or sexting, Nevermind. But maybe I’m wrong!?
There were no threats made to Mary in words on this blog. (If there were, then post them, with a time and date.) If I had a pound for every time I was “hurt” by comments on blogs, I’d be as rich as Croesus. If Mary doesn’t want to be involved in the rough and tumble of blog comments, she knows what to do.
“A rush of blood to the head.” — Mary
You mean where Habbabkuk remarked
“PS – is it not surprising that the apparent disappearance of our old friend Mary has not given rise to a SINGLE comment or bit of speculation?”
and I replied
“Yes, very much so, and I sincerely hope she hasn’t had an accident. Or fallen suddenly ill.”
Note, Mary, that not one other person had commented on your absence. And the rush of concern on Squonk happened AFTER Habbabkuk and I had commented here. NOT before.
Bye now, all. Busy busy.
Push off.
Charlie Cooper to driver Jack Brabham and assembled others, when the differential crownwheel broke when testing their 500cc Climax engined single-seater, legendarily exclaimed “Oh Buggery!”. I would say ‘losing’ a dossier on such a very serious matter constitutes buggering up big time and no credible account has been given why a whole series of related files and correspondence, spanning more than a decade, on that same subject have similarly turned up missing, disappeared into a whitehall void, they ought to get that hole filled in before any more people fall in and are terribly, even terminally injured. Perhaps erect an edifice over it, a statue of the dear leaderess perhaps.
So we see now attempts, which will fail, to close down fair comment, free spech on the internet. Clearly the establishment is threatened, and a good thing that it is, about time it was more than threatened, time it was chased out of town entirely. I seem to have struck a raw nerve with the ugly troll, back from whatever crisis called it away, it seemed to do a disappearing act the last time the stench over this same issue – this inquiry – became so great that the media had to give it some grudging attention. Is there a connection, could this soiled character in real life, be involved in these machinations and cover-ups, perhaps have something to hide, be implicated themselves? Will Habbaduk be next to lead the inquiry, it should put itself forward, it’s just what they need, someone in need of elite validation and willing do literally anything to serve.
Those who genuflect before rapacious hideous power, who seek favour by their craven obeisance are every bit as unworthy as the monsters they eulogise and admonish.
In other news hate-figure Jim Murphy looks set to lose in the race to the bottom demotion derby; in a bogus narrative of a phoney battle between left and right within the Scottish branch of all-New Labour, the left must be seen to win, the fact that the other candidates are of such low calibre and are as far to the right as his Jimness himself, by dint of their continued membership of the party of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, is neither here nor there. Signs are the public are not falling for it, supreme indifference is the order of the day, they’re sunk however much they rearrange the deck chairs and the (orange) band plays its sonic warfare and woeful tuneless dirges, till the whole party is subsumed.
Tony M
Congratulations on the paragraphs, Tony, they make your screeds somewhat more readable.
But only somewhat – to make them entirely readable you now have to pay a great deal of attention to the content.
Paragraphs are the easy bit.
Tony M
“Will Habbaduk be next to lead the inquiry, it should put itself forward,…etc, etc, etc…zzzz”
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No, Tony, he won’t. Were your reading skills and/or attention span greater, you would have noticed that I’ve nominated our friend Mr DOUG SCORGIE for that rôle.
Modest for once, Dougie hasn’t yet responded. Doesn’t he care for the victims?
@Ben: “The ‘Muddle’ continues to defeat the concept of democratic republic. When you mix stupid with ignorant it’s not a good thing.”
Particularly when stoked by fear, of which there is no short supply in the US. In fact, it’s the primary driver of all marketing in every form.
Speaking of which, what do you reckon the Republicans’ takeover of the senate will achieve? Is Obama going to carry on attempting to “reach across the aisle”, does he still think a Grand Bargain may be forged?
They certainly won’t get a veto-proof majority, not even filibuster-proof, but how likely are the Dems to turn the tables, and use the same tactics that thwarted them for most of the past six years, I wonder. Demonstrating the same cowardice and lack of commitment that has characterised Obama’s administration, I imagine they’ll decide to work with the Repugs, compromising just about everything, as long as the odd bone is thrown their way.
All round, it’s a mess – but entirely of the Dem’s own making. They’ll probably blame the voters again, for their failure to turn out. Yet again, they forgot Eisenhower’s warning that given a choice between a Republican and a Democrat acting like a Republican, they’ll take the real thing every time.
Again from your mega-screed:
“…however much they rearrange the deck chairs and the (orange) band plays its sonic warfare and woeful tuneless dirges, till the whole party is subsumed.”
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Didn’t you mean to say “submerged”?
Always take a deep breath before posting and oxygenate properly.
Tony M
“Charlie Cooper to driver Jack Brabham and assembled others, when the differential crownwheel broke when testing their 500cc Climax engined single-seater, legendarily exclaimed “Oh Buggery!”.”
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Good try at explaining your “Brittan’s buggery” phrase, but not terribly convincing. You need to do better than that before the blog gets a letter from Lord Brittan’s solicitors.