I do not claim any direct link between my declaration in Kirkcaldy that I was seeking nomination as a SNP Westminster candidate and fancied taking on Gordon Brown, and his subsequent decision to let the media know he intends to stand down and not fight! But it is an act of remarkable political cowardice from a man who so spectacularly promised No voters massive devolution of powers to the Scottish parliament. That Brown promise was given more publicity by the mainstream media than any other event in the entire referendum campaign. The fact that Brown never had any locus to deliver what he was promising was bound at some stage to become acutely embarrassing. He now escapes responsibility for the cynical lies of his pledges, by simply running away.
Brown was always a feartie. He was scared to stand against Tony Blair for leader, scared to call a general election early when he could have averted Labour’s electoral disaster. He was even scared to stick to his guns when for once he got something right and called that dreadful woman a bigot.
Brown contributed directly to the crippling poverty of millions by his disastrous deregulation of the City of London and years of giving the bankers everything they desired. Nor must we allow the mainstream media unchallenged to cement the lie that there was no alternative to trillions of pounds in grants and effective subsidies from taxpayers being given direct to the fatcat bankers, which have crippled the public finances for generations. Letting bad banks go bust and bad bankers go on the dole (or hopefully jump) was a far better option. Contrary to the Brown myth, world recession was not averted. It happened, massively. The only thing saved was the multi-million incomes of the people whose greed and stupidity had caused the collapse.
Brown remains the greatest friend the bankers ever had.
Brown and Darling lead a large phalanx of Labour MPs who realise their best career move is to transit to the benches of the House of Lords while the going is good, and start pocketing their 300 pounds a day allowance for doing nothing but hoovering up comfy directorships.
I fear that they will find that Scottish independence is coming sooner than they think and that gig will soon get cut short too.
As for Brown’s devolution promises, frankly I don’t give a damn about the Smith Commission. Holyrood control of income tax is meaningless if most other taxes are set in London. Fiscal autonomy can only work if Scotland is given all its taxes, including those from hydrocarbons and from whisky. That will never happen. Any tax and spend devolution which reserves oil and whisky taxes to the UK Treasury will be perverted by Westminster, to only result in further public spending cuts for Scotland. Besides, if Westminster can still send our children to fight and die in illegal wars, the money is immaterial.
Which brings us back to Gordon Brown. Remember not only did he first deregulate the bankers then give them huge transfers from poor families’ taxes, he backed Blair to the hilt over the invasion of Iraq. Without Brown’s support, Blair could not have done it, and hundreds of thousands would not have died – nor would we have ISIS and linked chaos now.
Brown is an evil man.
RepublicOfGreatIncontinence
“Oh pass me a hankie, your new found philosophical approach has made me all misty eyed. ”
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If it’s only your eyes which are wet I will consider your request sympathetically.
“This tendency to accuse every politician and his uncle of being a paedophile reminds me a little of the hysteria at the time of the Profumo affair, when as many as seven High Court judges were rumoured to have been attending orgies with call girls galore.
My own view, “Paul Barbara”, is that Gordon Brown is as much a paedophile as you are – no more and no less.
What say you?”
Back to your old form after your latest turn, are we. Attacking new posters because they have realised how the covering blankets of news are working, you fool.
Off course, if anyone comes to near to revealing how wide paedophilia has spread, especially in ‘traditional’ institutions, how people have used their top down class ranks and celebrity status to abuse children in all sorts of situation, making out they are the moral bastion of the masses,
then these people are going to be smothered in other news deemed sufficiently brutal and violent to hide other issues.
Two east end amateurs have been imprisoned for doing nothing but attending military training and posing for some pics.
Now what does this law mean to any other wannabe/mercenary.
What would it mean if Mark G and myself started up a military training academy? here in blighty? no need to swear any oath, dead pan basics and the shooting is done on registered ranges already in use.
Would it be classed as ‘training terrorists if we trained Australian and US Muslims? or red haired Scots, Indians from Kashmir, Uss supporters of MOVE, or anyone who might want to go abroad and fight for some outfit and kill to get paid for it, like so many ex soldiers do?
what does Ms. May’s law for them? Or is it directed at any young deluded men who are Muslims, who have been enticed by a false propaganda, enticed to train and to fight for some aim and objective.
Are not all soldiers trained to kill and fight for aims and objectives?
Are we not allowing well trained soldiers to fight for mercenary outfits abroad, Ukraine, Iraq,? Do we now criminalise them all since they all have the ability to create utter Mayhem, Ms. May?
Can’t help but think that Brown has also, unwittingly, helped the Tories. Another crime. How much say did Lab HQ have in the drafting of Brown and Darling into the Bitter Together campaign? I’m not sure, I suspect very little. And when Lab. get slaughtered in Scotland, perhaps allowing a UKIP\Tory coalition, perhaps then Brown might see the trap. OTOH, maybe the security services gave them no choice. Who knows really? A true history of the security services would be interesting stuff indeed. We only get a few still shots …
Sorry to be OT but I am SO pissed off by the Beeb’s photograph covering the most recent report of the Ferguson riots and the lad’s parents http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30214001
The photo makes his bereaved father look like a sly, sideways-looking, thug. The ‘news’ photos are so artful at constructing our perception of what’s happening, expecially to people’s perception of what happens to those folks who happen not to be white, which, PS, I happen to be.
Ingo
““This tendency to accuse every politician and his uncle of being a paedophile reminds me a little of the hysteria at the time of the Profumo affair, when as many as seven High Court judges were rumoured to have been attending orgies with call girls galore.
My own view, “Paul Barbara”, is that Gordon Brown is as much a paedophile as you are – no more and no less.
What say you?”
Back to your old form after your latest turn, are we. Attacking new posters because they have realised how the covering blankets of news are working, you fool.
Off course, if anyone comes to near to revealing how wide paedophilia has spread, especially in ‘traditional’ institutions, how people have used their top down class ranks and celebrity status to abuse children in all sorts of situation, making out they are the moral bastion of the masses,
then these people are going to be smothered in other news deemed sufficiently brutal and violent to hide other issues.”
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Will you ever just think for a minute or two before “commenting”, both generally and on the comments of others?
Firstly, if you were to wake up from time to time, you would know that “Paul Barbara” is not a “new” poster. He/she has posted before under the same moniker.
Secondly, my comment about him/her was perfectly legitimate: he/she is as much – or as little – a paedophile as Gordon Brown. If you can make out a convincing case that that statement is incorrect – either in logic or in fact – please do so.
Thirdly, please demonstrate how the revelations about paedophilia are being “smothered in other news”. Or are you of the opinion that the other things going on in Britain and the wider world should not be reported on pending the outcome of the current investigations on paedophilia?
Blair will not stop giving his opinion.
Tony Blair on Israel-Palestine, Putin, Eurozone, ‘Brexit’ and Kazakhstan http://blogs.wsj.com/brussels/2014/11/25/tony-blair-on-israel-palestine-putin-eurozone-brexit-and-kazakhstan/?mod=WSJBlog&mod=brussels
From Brendan:
“How much say did Lab HQ have in the drafting of Brown and Darling into the Bitter Together campaign? I’m not sure, I suspect very little……maybe the security services gave them no choice.”
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So it seems as of Brendan is saying that the security services have some sort of hold over Gordon Brown (and Alistair Darling for good measure).
And that in turn appears to reprise the accusation of paedophilia levelled against Gordon Brown – in a singularly sly and cowardly way, be it noted – by the not-so-new “Paul Barbara” at 21h42.
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Shame on you, Brendan.
Mary
“Blair will not stop giving his opinion.”
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A most tiresome characteristic shared by your good self.
Yea, guess it’s correct enough, but I did sense there could have been something potentially good in Gordon brown. But as said, he seemed cowardly.
My feeling is powers is such that people get lost in it all. It makes me think the only really progressive power exists to the extent you know your limitations.
I’d say the power needed is collective community action. And maybe people can help tease it out, but anything more often seems to turn to arrogance and blindness.
“A most tiresome characteristic shared by your good self.”
Actuly i’m not tierd of Marys input. But i’m getting pretty tired of you jumping on her back. With blair it seems totaly fair enough. Never worked for justice did he.
@Resident Dissident: “I’ve already explained before why I maintain my anonymity – which is probably the same reason as why most people in paid employment here do likewise.”
Yes, I can understand that. If retired, independently wealthy, or self employed with clients untroubled by a politically charged set of opinions, then good luck – put your full name down, and link to your website. Same goes for lecturers, who would have freedom for their own speech well defended (or at least, do at present).
Private companies can let people go for any reason or none. Embarrassing the same for strong views would be an obvious reason to sack them, it’s bound to tick off some potential client. After all, we don’t come here to discuss innocuous stuff, and present opinions guaranteed inoffensive to all.
Labour is a party that is supposed to intervene to curb the excesses of the free market.
Yet Brown did not intervene to cool down the housing market, which is why we now have uncontrolled house price inflation, and rampant landlord exploitation through “Buy to Let”.
Brown is a rat leaving a sinking ship.
Good riddance.
@Habbabkuk: Your idiotic ad hominem logic-less slur seems pretty par for your course. I happen to be an active campaigner against the abomination of paedophilia; you seem to pretend to think it’s all got up by bloggers and SOME (brave) media. I write ‘pretend to think’, ‘cos that’s about all you seem to do.
If you have some counter links to Brown’s paedophilia, by all means put them in your comments; or perhaps you kinda feel some kinship with the Luciiferian scumbags that prey on young kids and even babies?
Where is Ben, anyone know? One of the extremely few posters worth reading, and he’s suddenly not about.
Oh… no offence to any other posters, I hasten to add.
@Paul Barbara: “If you have some counter links to Brown’s paedophilia, by all means put them in your comments…”
Carl Sagan said something along the lines that extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. Since you are making the assertions here, would you mind providing some evidence before making such a slur?
Good Grief – is being a nonce just “an assumed” now, until one can provide solid evidence otherwise?
I don’t how much of an “active campaigner against the abomination of paedophilia” you claim to be. You don’t protect the children by screeching “PEDO!!” every chance you get. Being an “active campaigner” doesn’t give you more right to make such a charge without evidence, if anything, you should be far more careful than the standard pitchfork-and-torch wielding tabloid reader.
Oh Habbakuk,
Do shut up child.
Everyone with even a basic grasp of syntax and grammar here knows you and Res Diss are the same sockpuppet.
Yawnnnnnn.
Sometimes I really Surprise Myself..particularly when I want It for Me..The Well Brand New…Kit arriving in the Morning…I want to Open it And Unbox It and Test it..but that is not my job anymore..I have tested the second hand version..
It is Well My Christmas Present To My Daughter From Me..Mother and Daughter are Doing Their Girly Stuff..Make Up Bags,,,oh the entire fkin lot to make themselves look beautiful….
Look the camera cost …well do I Really have to spell out the numbers..
My daughter looks and thinks…##
WellI have been Independent now from the age of 18 when I went to University..first year..then I rented a house and took Full Responsibilt for The Students Living in My House..and Their Dad’s wouldn’t Pay The Rent
I said to my Daughter..look unblock the Fire Grate..There’s a Good Chimney Up There in Your Exceedingly Old House (It’s a Lot Older Than Ours)
And Cut Down That Fkin Tree (Sycamore) and burn it to keep warm..whilst at university…and she said dad(they do not know how to light a fire – they have never been camping before and most of them come from the USA and Canada..and they are Really Nice..and Dad..well of course..what else would a Dad do??
My Daughter has of Course been invited to both the USA and Canada..but the UK Police said ..well we have arrested her at the age of 15..She now has a Criminal Record..and She won’t get in…
Yeh, O.K..but why did you arrest my daughter for when she was innocently walking home from the local park..with all her 15 year old friends at the end of summer..their final little party at the end of the summer????
Well it’s like this us cops had kept an eye on all these kids all summer…not just the park’s police..but also the meat wagon squad..and we all thought they were starting school again next morning after the long summer break..and they wouldn’t all go home like normal to their Mum’s and Dad’s and get Ready For The School The next Day..These Morons Had Got The Dates Wrong..They Didn’t Go Back To School Until at Least a Day After ..well probably a week or so..You Know when You Get into The 6th Form…)
But they hadn’t so we tried to Arrest Them All..and We Only Got Your Daughter..Cos She Didn’t Run Off Like All The Other Kids. She Stood There Firm. She Hadn’t Done Anything Wrong..What is Your Problem She Asked ??? (nah Really She Told The Funt To Cuck Off) as He – Massive Great Bloke Picked Up My Slim Beautiful Blonde 15 Year Old Daughter..Stuck His Knee in Her Back..cuffed her From Behind With These Plastic Tie Clips..slung her into the back of his meat wagon..and looked around at his mates..wtf is wrong with you..
I’ve got One
Tony
Has Habbabkuk got a new day job? He arrived on here last night at 7pm and late afternoon on the previous two.
It is very sad to hear that the 25 year old cricketer Phillip Hughes died this morning.
Richard, 26/11/14 at 6.58pm
Maybe this might have been a way to solve the bank matters?
http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/why-iceland-should-be-in-the-news-but-is-not/
Thank you sir. There is not a single word of what you have written here that I do not agree with.
There was an old geezer called Dad
Whose posts were considered quite bad
He thought he was clever
He could go no forever
But he…
[…got kidnapped and forced to power a bus in Bath http://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/15061/20141122/sewage-powered-bus-hits-road-britain.htm%5D
“Paul Barbara”
Well, I was going to reply to you but Glenn_uk has done a rather good job on your silly post.
You have absolutely no reasonable suspicion, let alone proof, for claiming that Gordon Brown is, or was, a paedophile and I note that you are careful not to come out and make that accusation directly; instead, you supply some link or another and then slyly say “and Brown hasn’t sued”. If figures in the public eye were to sue everytime someone throws around a slanderous claim on the wilder fringes of the internet, they would have to spend their entire lives doing nothing else.
I note that your “reply” is also careful to make another sly insinuation that I have “some kinship” with paedophiles – which says volumes about you.
Grow up, “Paul” and try to become less of a tosser.
Jives (of the nocturnal “comments”):
“Oh Habbakuk,
Do shut up child.
Everyone with even a basic grasp of syntax and grammar here knows you and Res Diss are the same sockpuppet”
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Which demonstrates rather well that you have little grasp of either.
There now! I’ve given you the attention you obviously crave, hope you feel reinvigorated! 🙂
Glenn_uk
I think I can help – go onto Squonk’s blog and you’ll find that Ben has been rather active there over the last few days. He (and a few others) seems to be exercised about the moderation on CM.
yes it is Mary, but nobody would dare to say that Cricket is a deadly sport.
But it is kind of news that deflects from the sordid news nobody in the establishment would like to hear about paedophiles, its the sort of news that smothers the proposal to chuck a bomb into running the country by proposing to keep to one promise made on income tax in Scotland.
Could we get someone beheaded on the same day as we are expecting bad news for our so called upper echelons? Were there really parliamentarians, high ranking civil servants and other leading members involved in murdering a child for their kicks?
Should there not be a report coming out on this investigation?
It may be true that posters here preserve their anonymity for fear of being persecuted by their employer. I suspect however this is only partly true and the greater reason is their delight in the licence it offers them to be so rude and unpleasant to other people. It is surprising how much better people behave if they think their friends and neighbours are watching. And conversely.
Personally, I think most people in the real world disapprove strongly of someone who sends a poison pen letter and does not put his or her name to it. I don’t see why posting abuse and personal insults should be exempt from this disapproval.
Go on, flame me! But do so in language you would use if your neighbour was watching.
I’m sure Brown was quaking in his shoes at the prospect of the Murray giving him the kind of run for his money that he managed against Jack Straw (iirc outpolled by the BNP!).
The charmless and frankly pathological hatred dished out by Murray on “his bad days” are what really makes this blog unrequired reading, which is a shame since the few blogs posted that display no personal rancour on his part are genuinely interesting.
As for Murray insisting on the old woman being bigoted – naturally followed by the shrill invocation of “racist” – it shows exactly why someone like Murray, alternately grovelling to friends and insulting to adversaries like some pocketbook Beria, should NEVER be elected to any kind of public office.
“A most tiresome characteristic shared by your good self.” trills the shroll….
Craig
“No, same Craig Murray, just five years wiser.”
Do you believes your own bullshit? Your embarrassing article, fawning over Brown, was from September 2013. One year ago. What do you mean five years wiser? You are all over the show.
Reading the comments on your one year old Brown love article and comments here is revealing about which comment writers just parrot your bollocks.
Of course I cannot finish without: Little wonder you hesitate to hold Brown to account over his crimes against the Iraqi people considering your complicity in the death of hundreds of thousands.