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158 thoughts on “J’Accuse!”

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  • Mary

    Rifkind is going through the motions, as the saying goes, as he pretends not to know about this horrible time in recent history. Whatever will our descendants think of us?

  • Republicofscotland

    Hope you don’t mind me posting this Craig, in my opinion its pretty relevant as to the state Labour are in now and then including the Iraq war and extraordinary rendition flights.

    ……………………………………..

    http://youtu.be/0UckAXbyxqc

  • mike

    They can’t stop this. The truth will out.

    Good stuff, Craig.

    The neocon psychos have had a fair old run, all the way back to the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998. Perhaps their days are numbered.

    Humanity will be better off without them.

  • Blegburnduddoo

    Mary, you are so right, as always, never more so than at 4.51p.m. Don’t forget Nadira, she must also be so proud of her husband.

  • falloch

    Don’t know how reliable this source is, but makes a distinction between torture that was carried out to garner information from Al-Qaeda, etc., etc. and torture that was instigated by Bush/Cheney to produce false information that would give them an excuse to link Al-Q with Iraq to justify invading into Iraq. This is not a distinction that I’ve spotted in the MSM in the past few days (though I may well have missed it, as I’ve not had a lot of time to go hunting for it), but if true is just SO much more insidious, it’s sickening.
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40453.htm

  • Jives

    “Becoming an interrogator or torturer involves a long process of training designed explicitly at making them the kinds of people who can see a detainee as something other than a human being. A number of measures are taken to do this, including being themselves subjected to brutal violence as recruits. The Torture Report also found that the CIA would use people who were already shown to be unstable, and thus more likely to be able to inflict deliberate, manipulative pain onto another person.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-10/beard-cheney-defends-torture/5957372

  • GF

    Craig Murray, as a seasoned whistleblower, you ought to know already about the level of usefulness and integrity of our “honest forces of law and order”.

    You say you “put Straw, Blair and Blears in the dock for torture”. Which dock would that be? One in our criminal courts that have been staffed by Jack Straw and his equally honourable successors?

  • Jives

    Falloch 6.08pm

    Excellent post and points you’ve raised there.

    Deliberately torturing most likely known innocents to provide false information?

    That is seriously fucked up.

  • farrukh

    I would love to render Straw to Libya and get the militias there to introduce Straw to water boarding. Straw claimed that Labour had an ethical foreign policy when Blair first came to power. As for Rifkind, he is better off back in the asylum.

  • davidb

    Now there’s curious. Comments were apparently opened – moderated it says – about 1AM last night, yet closed about 10AM today. I suspect the story is the type which would attract a lot of comments in the Daily Fail. For some reason they appear redacted.

    I deleted the bookmark for the DF about referendum time. I only read foreign news sources, Reuters and sometimes the Guardian ( mostly for the comments ). You eventually get sick of propaganda.

  • Iain Orr

    Farrukh (at 6.37 pm)

    As a rhetorical device, your wish to see Jack Straw tortured in Libya is understandable. However, I hope that if you were subjected to the classic psychological test, where pressing button “TW” would mean that Straw really was tortured by water-boarding, you would refrain. Would you really go ahead and then produce the Cheyneyesque rationale for pressing it: “We need have no compunction about torturing those who are themselves complicit in torturing others”? That’s how nasty memes spread their poison.

  • pete fairhurst

    Falloch 6.08

    The torturers knew all along that torture produces zero credible evidence. This has been known for ages, and these CIA goons knew it too.

    But they also knew that torturing was the best way of getting false confessions. And they needed lots of those because their 9/11 story was such patent BS.

    [It was obvious on the day that it was false. Aluminium aircraft cannot bring down steel framed buildings. Period. End of. The only time that has happened is on 9/11. 3 buildings. 2 planes. Never happened before, and never happened since]

    The 9/11 false flag was essential to underpin their “global war on terror” rationale. They needed confessions. And they got them.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/10/911torture/

  • harry law

    Former Vice President Dick Chaney Quoted in the New York Times at the weekend, he said those CIA people who took part in the interrogations should be “decorated, not criticised”.

    Any criticism of them was “way off base,” said former president George W Bush – the man who ultimately signed off on the enhanced interrogation techniques.http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-10/cia-interrogations-ineffective-more-brutal-than-claimed-senate/5956190 US servicemen who water boarded Japanese prisoners in WW2 received long prison sentences, now we have the “shining city on a hill”, the “indispensable and exceptional nation”. I have other names for them,but I am too much of a gentleman.

  • Peacewisher

    @Jives, 6.35… just because the action is seriously fucked up doesn’t mean some won’t do it. Remember the principle of Hitler regarding lying… if you are going to do it, make it big (with the insinuation that no one will believe you could be that audacious!)

  • lysias

    The Daily Mail has also been the paper that has reported the most about the pedophilia scandals.

  • lysias

    Speaking of the Dreyfus case, there’s a strong case that the French authorities couldn’t reveal the truth, because they had been using the real divulger, Esterhazy, to transmit disinformation to the Germans.

  • BrianFujisan

    Brilliant Stuff Craig, Very Well Done – Long, Long Overdue

    Fuckers are well rattled now…but like Ian, i wouldn’t want to see yet more torture being applied, though cant stand some of them, Rifkind, Campbell, Straw, Blair, Cameron, Criminals the Lot.

    Like Obama, they give not a toss for international Law –

    The War Crimes Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2441, makes it a crime for any person, “whether inside or outside the United States” to commit a “war crime.” War Crimes are defined as any grave breach of the Geneva Conventions, and in particular, any conduct that violates common Article 3. In Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court explicitly ruled that common Article 3 applies to alleged Al Qaeda members and the so-called war on terror.

    The crimes of torture, cruel or inhuman treatment and murder — all acts that are documented by the Senate Torture Report — are specifically prohibited by common Article 3 and the War Crimes Act.

  • Iain Orr

    While we all wait zombie-like for the result of SPOTY, why not keep the brain ticking over by devising revised versions of the USA’s founding document? Continuations, please,in the light of the redacted report on the CIA, for appropriate 21st century wording after “We hold these truths to be self-evident….”

    For those who get closest to the truth, I will try to arrange appropriate rewards.

  • fred

    “The Daily Mail has also been the paper that has reported the most about the pedophilia scandals.”

    They are also fond of printing pictures of 16 year old heiresses sunbathing in scanty bikinis.

  • Aidworker1

    Sorry to come so late to this.

    Craig – you’ve won.

    Um – I can’t find this on the Daily Mail website now?

    It was there earlier.

  • Mary

    Blair and Straw should ‘absolutely’ be quizzed over British complicity in torture, says former home secretary Alan Johnson
    Former PM and Foreign Secretary face Parliamentary grilling over torture
    Comes after US report revealed scale of ‘enhanced interrogation’ by CIA
    But the report redacted all evidence of British complicity with the CIA
    It has led to calls for a full judicial inquiry into what the Government knew
    A Parliamentary committee has launched a probe of British complicity
    Its chairman Sir Malcolm Rifkind said he would call former ministers

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873330/Blair-Straw-absolutely-quizzed-British-complicity-torture-says-former-home-secretary-Alan-Johnson.html

  • mike

    Haha! The ink on the Russia/Turkey pipeline deal is barely dry, and we get this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30471996

    I think you’ll find that our ever-obliging corporate media are fed a stream of anti-Erdogan info from here on in. How dare he upset the Empire’s plan to isolate Russia.

    You’ll also find that Turkey’s role in arming/training ISIS suddenly becomes a big story. Give it a week.

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