My RT interview today giving eyewitness evidence that Jack Straw is lying about his personal complicity in torture. Straw has been allowed to lie repeatedly about his on UK media for the past 24 hours, as have other British establishment figures. Despite the fact that it is infamous that I was sacked by Straw for blowing the whistle on CIA torture, and the undeniable documentary evidence of this, not one UK media outlet has allowed me to contradict Straw. I have contacted every major British news outlet and been blanked by every one.
‘CIA will continue torture with help of mediators’ – UK’s former envoy to Uzbekistan
Secret State 13: Britain shamed by successive nefarious governments
http://politicalcleanup.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/secret-state-13-britain-shamed-by-successive-nefarious-governments/
Russell Brand’s note on his QT appearance last night.
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1418375863.html
Habbabkuk wrote
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Why, only yesterday, I saw the following from the MAYGI (addressed to you, I believe and written in bold):
“Just get real for a moment and ask yourself how you can make a difference so that real torture is exposed and eradicated and the perpetrators held to account.”
But when I asked the MAYGI to tell us what HE was doing to “make a difference”….answer came there none!”
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Fascinating charge from the likes of MAYGI “Sofia” – we should not be discussing the items they have quite deliberately brought about, over an extended period. Bad people. No – we should be discussing something else altogether, at their direction.
You are right that a shrink would be delighted to find such a case – think of the papers that could be published, the shrink’s career would finally take off!
But you should be a little concerned, Habbabkuk. Not only does this middle aged man like to think of himself as a young girl, he’s projecting his own father onto you. He calls you “Dad” more often than not. I should just count myself lucky that “Sofia” has not started to consider me his mother!
Reluctant Observer
“But you should be a little concerned, Habbabkuk. Not only does this middle aged man like to think of himself as a young girl, he’s projecting his own father onto you.”
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That’s interesting, RO – and, as you say, a little worrying. Do you happen to have any idea why people project their own fathers onto others?
12 more ‘fallen leaves’ since 2pm.
RepublicOfTwisters
“The death Palestinian Minister Ziad Abu Ein was the result of beating, teargas-induced asphyxiation and obstruction by the Israeli army to transfer him to a hospital on time, a Palestinian official said, citing official forensic results.
Palestinian Civil Affairs Minister Hassan Al-Sheikh, detailing the forensic results to the official Palestinian radio station today, asserted that the findings show that Abu Ein, who was fatally injured yesterday during an Israeli clampdown on a Palestinian protest against settlements and the Separation Wall near Ramallah, had been “murdered”.
“The forensic report is an essential piece of evidence of Israel’s responsibility [for Abu Ein’s death],” Al-Sheikh said following yesterday evening’s autopsy.
He added that the Palestinian authorities carried out the autopsy in an East Jerusalem university hospital after refusing to allow an Israeli medical centre to handle the procedure.
However, an Israeli doctor was present during the autopsy and he confirmed that the process was carried out “professionally”, Al-Sheikh explained.
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Here you go Mary your assertions have been vindicated, a certain poster in here, you know who you are, will now need to eat humble pie.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/15760-autopsy-reveals-palestinian-minister-was-murdered”
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Mary’s assertions have not been vindicated and I shan’t be eating pie whether humble or otherwise, RoS.
You have not given us the contents of the autopsy, you have merely given us what another Palestinian minister has said about them.
As you write yourself, “Palestinian Civil Affairs Minister Hassan Al-Sheikh, detailing the forensic results to the official Palestinian radio station today, asserted that the findings show that…etc, etc…..murdered”.
The key word is “asserted”.
I submit that Hassan Al-Sheikh is hardly an impartial, neutral party in this affair.
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I would also add that what you claim in your last two paras does not correspond to what we can read in a number of Continental European newspapers. The latter say that the autopsy was carried out by a team of Israeli, Palestinian and Jordanian doctors and that it concluded that the minister (I translate) “suffered from a heart condition and died of a heart attack caused by stress, doubtlessly following the altercation with Israeli soldiers”.
Depressing Mail poll on torture.
Details – http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1418407204.html
@Mary: the new “British values”? However, this is The Daily Mail. Yougov poll showed only 34% in favour of torture.
BrianFujisan
Got your telescope on your wrong eye again? After letting off a battery of RPGs against the wrongs of neo-cons, which you don’t like because it includes a religious perspective, you pick on something which is not even addressed to you.
Neo-cons hate religion. You hate religion. Maybe one day you’ll realise you’re on the same side as them.
Save your invective for someone or something else Giyane. You are totally wrong about Brian Fujisan. He has love in his heart. Have you?
“No boots on the ground”
Hundreds Of British Troops To Be Sent To Iraq
Sky News learns that a few hundred military personnel will head to the region for an on-going training mission “within weeks”.
http://news.sky.com/story/1391206/hundreds-of-british-troops-to-be-sent-to-iraq
So Mr Goss is keen to display his anti-racism credentials by labelling all and sundry as rascist – but steadfastedly refuses to apply the same label to the Putin regime. Might I suggest he do a little research on the past history of Putin’s deputy Prime Minister Dimitry Rogozin – and then let us know whether he wishes to revise his opinion.
Dad asks what Sofia is doing to make a difference re torture. Not a bad question IMO!
I don’t think she, or her channeller, will end up in the official record, but my confident prediction is that she is just the tiniest drop in an ocean of revulsion against the torture-masters which, in the not too distant future, will manifest as a tsunami of public clamour for justice.
I know the ICC needs to be awoken from it’s slumbers and the US isn’t even covered by that sorry institution, but I look at the growing global awareness of the horrors that these people have unleashed on humankind and remember that the Nurmberg Trials didn’t start until the wheels had fallen off Hitler’s wagon. I reckon the wheels of the US / UK terror-wagon are looking mighty wobbly right now though I’m sure that on a human time-scale, the coming wreck will appear to be in slow motion.
On 1 November 1943, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States published their “Declaration on German Atrocities in Occupied Europe”, which gave a “full warning” that, when the Nazis were defeated, the Allies would “pursue them to the uttermost ends of the earth … in order that justice may be done. … The above declaration is without prejudice to the case of the major war criminals whose offences have no particular geographical location and who will be punished by a joint decision of the Government of the Allies.” The legal basis for the trial was established by the London Charter, which was agreed upon by the four so-called Great Powers on 8 August 1945, and which restricted the trial to “punishment of the major war criminals of the European Axis countries”
It seems that, inspite of her fictional and insubstancial nature, Sofia has kept a couple of the empire’s conformity enforcing henchmorons occupied through a good part of yesterday, even when she wasn’t there at all. I hope she continues to provide some distraction and help keep the issue smouldering while more serious and substancial people do all the diverse things that will eventually see the perpetrators held to account and serve appropriate sentences.
I’ve said in the past that I don’t wish for harsh punishment. Rather some form of community service among the poeples whose lives they have blighted and lifetime ban from all public office. IOW restitution and an new program of Denazification.
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In the meantime we have Dad and his minions contantly tripping over their smear-buckets as they try to shut down the public conversation. Thanks Dad! And try to avoid those cameras… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qcj2MzPYc
Yes, yes, sure…..lots of palabras, lots of sound and fury, but what are you actually DOING?
Apart from “Sofia has kept a couple of the empire’s conformity enforcing henchmorons occupied through a good part of yesterday”, of course. LOL
Lots of talking…but where’s the walking?
R2D2 is getting his fascists and ‘rascists’ muddled up. LOL
Mary
BrianFujisan is exactly as both I and you have described him. John Goss lives near to me and I don’t see why I can’t lean over the virtual fence to chat with him if I want to without Brian telling me I’m ignoring Palestinian children .
Work to do, flu germs to spread, bye.
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“That’s interesting, RO – and, as you say, a little worrying. Do you happen to have any idea why people project their own fathers onto others?”
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Unresolved issues ? Some kind of father-daughter (eeek!) relationship, in which “Sofia” regresses to a child state during any transaction with what “she” regards as an authority figure ? I have not studied Transactional Analysis for some time, but some aspects seem to be at play. We could speculate, but it would no doubt take years of intensive analysis to get to the bottom of it.
What is wryly amusing, however, is the notion that as “the other”, we simply must be culpible in crimes of torture ourselves. And we – you and me – are being prevented from doing so, because we are forced to post here. If there is any torturing going on around here, it’s from that sort of tortured logic.
Reluctant Observer
12 Dec, 2014 – 5:19 pm
“I should just count myself lucky that “Sofia” has not started to consider me his mother!”
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Why RO?
Are you an auld wifie?
Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)
12 Dec, 2014 – 8:14 pm
“I would also add that what you claim in your last two paras does not correspond to what we can read in a number of Continental European newspapers. The latter say that the autopsy was carried out by a team of Israeli, Palestinian and Jordanian doctors and that it concluded that the minister (I translate) “suffered from a heart condition and died of a heart attack caused by stress, doubtlessly following the altercation with Israeli soldiers”.
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If that is true Habbabkuk you won’t mind providing links to those Continental European newspapers will you?
(No need to translate for us)
Even this *European* newspaper acknowledges that the autopsy results were contentious:
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israeli-and-Palestinian-officials-issue-conflicting-accounts-of-autopsy-on-dead-PA-minister-384305
Few details of the Palestinian/Jordanian account: as usual the Israeli PR machine has swung into action to drown out the doubters. But for balance –
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/12/palestine-minister-autopsy-results-disputed-2014121161857231665.html
In which UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called on the Israeli authorities to “conduct a swift and transparent investigation” into the circumstances of what he called the “brutal death” of the minister.
My mystic sources inform me that absolutely nothing of the sort will happen. History concurs.
And there is a picture of a warm and beautiful human being implementing what is no doubt an authorised means of shutting up the opposition.
@Habbabkuk :
You have a number of correspondents, so I appreciate your time in answering as you did. Particularly because you tackled the most important point, as far as I’m concerned.
I had rather taken it as read, that there was no praise to be made for Mao, or Stalin, from any sane person. I’d also rather assumed a great general sympathy for Tibet, among anyone with the least degree of humanity or plain decency. You suggest that this assumption is misplaced – we are clearly at an important point here.
My posts are largely ignored, most likely because I waffle too much. But could anyone reading this please weigh in, and tell me if I’m wrong in my assumptions in what I consider the progressive, liberal crowd here?
Is Habbabkuk correct, when he says:
Seriously – one of us has totally misread the general mood here. Which of us has it right?
Gah, posted to the wrong thread. Let me give it another go.