One war criminal writing about another. Nice chums you have, Rusbridger*.
For once there was something worth reading in the Guardian, an article by my friend Coleen Rowley. But the Guardian cut out the most important paragraph in the article. As Coleen put it in an email:
Unfortunately, the paper edited out the politically incorrect paragraph pointing out that the British Parliament committee inquiry totally ignored why Islamic terrorist recruitment is rising exponentially. So an even more important opinion piece needs to be written as to the factor swelling the numbers joining and affiliating with “terrorist” groups. Although the two issues are related as people’s naïve belief in the national security complex’s magical data-mining serves as cover to keep the more important debate from happening. Similar to Helen Thomas’ politically incorrect question: “why do they hate us?” or put more gently: “why can’t our bombs and exceptionalism win hearts and minds?” No longer will anyone in mainstream even ask if the US-NATO-Israel’s reliance on perpetual war, drone assassination and regime changes is working to reduce terrorism. I fear the Guardian would be unlikely to publish such an op-ed but it needs to be attempted nonetheless.
*By appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, smasher of hard drives
Herbie (16h46)
Thanks. Would you now care have a go at answering the following questions, already put:
“So is it your opinion that Britain should have accepted his “numerous peace offers”?
What would have been the advantages and disadvantages to Britain and continental European countries of accepting them, in your opinion?”
Herbie
“Churchill bombed civilian targets in Germany first.
Why?
Was that a military advantage?”
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Are you referring to the couple of bombers sent to Berlin? If so, that was a response to Hitler’s vainglorious boast to the German people that the territory of the Reich was invulnerable and could never be attacked from the air by German’s enemies.
On the other hand, you might be referring to the bombardment, during the phony war, of Cologne and a couple of other Rhineland cities by…..leaflets?
Please clarify.
@John Goss
You listed off as questionable events (besides the 9/11 false flag itself): Lockerbie, Dr David Kelly’s murder, MH17.
Let’s not forget the post 9/11 Anthrax attacks:
“Churchill avoided peace efforts at all costs, indeed he assumed the position of PM in order to ensure that Britain escalated a war with Germany.”
Churchill didn’t become PM until after war had been declared.
“Churchill bombed civilian targets in Germany first.”
The Luftwaffe had already bombed civilian targets in Spain, France, Poland, Belgium and the Netherlands. It was inevitable that once Goering realised he couldn’t destroy the RAF that they’d turn to attacking British cities.
“The Defence Secretary has confirmed that Britain’s new warships will definitely be built on the Clyde. Good news for the workers and economy of Glasgow.”
Wonderful! Had the Defence Secretary been around in the mid-18th century, I’m sure he would have argued that the construction of gallows was good news for the workers and economy of Tyburn.
“So is it your opinion that Britain should have accepted his “numerous peace offers”?
Habby. I’m posing the question.
Why didn’t the British accept the peace offers?
They could have kept their empire and a relative power in the world, instead they chose to load themselves in debt to America which they’ve only paid off in the past few years. 2006, I believe.
Given that most of the leadership and population were against war with Germany, why did they insist on war. What did it benefit them.
What was so powerful about the previously isolated half-American Churchill that they faded into the background, ceding world power to the USA?
Kempe
That’s why it was called the phoney war.
Herbie
“Why didn’t the British accept the peace offers?
They could have kept their empire and a relative power in the world, instead they chose to load themselves in debt to America which they’ve only paid off in the past few years. 2006, I believe.
Given that most of the leadership and population were against war with Germany, why did they insist on war. What did it benefit them.
What was so powerful about the previously isolated half-American Churchill that they faded into the background, ceding world power to the USA?”
An excellent question. Why did they allow him to throw it all away like that when they could have cut a deal?
Maybe they decided at that years Bilderberg?
Oh I almost forgot. They didn’t start Bilderberg until the 1950’s……..
Don’t forget our host declared, just earlier this year, that he knew all along the Iranians were responsible for Lockerbie.
Interestingly, that human rights activist Craig Murray might have kept mum while an innocent man languished in (yes Scottish) nick was originally chalked up by spook specialist Robin Ramsay and has subsequently been retracted. Is this a sign that:
a) Craig Murray did in fact offer his information the Megrahi’s defence team but they decided to not use it.
b) Craig got all spooky on Ramsay.
c) Something else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_United_Kingdom_home_front_during_World_War_II#1939
It all seemed to be a bit rushed. Parliament not even recalled until 24th August… Churchill’s speech in the HoC must have been a real corker.
Well done to the OSCE and their work in eastern Ukraine. Luhansk autonomous region and Kiev have signed a total cease fire agreement to come into force on Dec. 5th.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/12/02/uk-ukraine-crisis-idUKKCN0JG0VE20141202
Maybe now Washington will stop the sniping/sabre rattling and NATO remove its troops from Poland and the Baltic independent states, general winter is taking over from here.
Re: Craig’s comment – “the British Parliament committee inquiry totally ignored why Islamic terrorist recruitment is rising exponentially”
It is hard to envisage a reason – other than pure evil – that can explain terrorism by a very tiny minority of religious fanatics against innocent citizens at home and aid workers abroad.
Nor can one understand how for years, indeed decades, pedophiles in the UK establishment were able to sexually abuse thousands of children in care homes, with our secret police services aiding a cover up to protect these high placed abusers from justice. It is equally appalling that the Press knew about these abuses for 30 years and did nothing, and that the UK establishment continues to try and cover them up.
Personally I see that very tiny minority of murderous fanatics in the Muslim community and the minority of pedophiles in the UK establishment as being of much the same type.
I wouldn’t even begin to look for an explanation in either case – one cannot explain evil.
Since 2012, electricity in the Gaza Strip has been operating according to a rotation system; it works for six hours in some areas and cuts off for another six hours to provide other areas with power
RAMALLAH
Palestinian National Economy Minister Mohamed Mustafa said Sunday that the Israeli authorities have officially rejected the proposal of having a Turkish floating power-generating ship near the Gaza Strip coast to help solve the electricity crisis in the embattled enclave.
“The Israeli rejection [to the proposal] requires us to exert more efforts to solve the electricity problem in Gaza,” Mustafa said in a statement.
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/428390–israel-rejects-turkeys-gaza-floating-generator-official
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Gaza really is one big open prison, even the lights out after a certain time.
The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency has pocketed nearly £25million in five years selling sensitive personal details of millions of motorists to controversial parking enforcement firms.
The government quango passed on the private information of 8.7million drivers to dozens of companies so they could be pursued relentlessly over alleged unpaid fines.
The latest twist in the ‘cowboy’ parking scandal shows the agency even divulged names and addresses of innocent people to ‘rogue firms’ that they knew had been convicted of criminal offences.
The Mail, which highlighted the outrage during the summer, has demanded action after revealing the practice had turned into a multi-million-pound industry dubbed ‘legalised mugging’ by motoring groups.
According to the DVLA, which holds details of all registered vehicle keepers in the UK, the amount it collected from parking firms more than doubled from £2.9million in 2010-11 to £6million in 2013-14.
So far this year, it has raked in £4.3million from the lucrative private parking business and forecasts this will rise to £7.3million by the end of March 2015. That would make a total of £24.7million.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2855464/DVLA-pockets-25m-five-years-selling-personal-details-millions-motorists-parking-enforcement-firms.html
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The DVLA is selling your personal details, and making a huge profit from it.
The rioters in Ferguson, Missouri, have much in common with the Palestinians. I have found nine parallels. Can you think of a tenth?
Both have permanent, deep-set anger and rage and are looking for anything to set it off. Anger defines them, and anger keeps both mired in failure.
Rather than make better choices they prefer to ride the “victim” train to nowhere. Both must have an “oppressor” to rage against; a white cop defending himself or an Israeli Jew wanting to pray on the Temple Mount serves their purposes. Rage is the only path they know to gain honor and prestige among their peers.
No one is born angry. Both were taught to be angry. Palestinians learn hate in their society, which idolizes murderers, and in their schools (including schools run by the UN under UNRWA) which teach them that every inch of Palestine is theirs from “the river to the sea.” American students, even those in prestigious universities
(including fundamentally Jewish institutions like Brandeis) are taught that they live in a racist society under an oppressive, imperialist US government that has committed innumerable sins at home and abroad. They become enlightenment-besotted idealists that believe Rousseau’s nonsense that civilization is a corrupting evil and virtue belongs to the noble savage.
The result of all this expensive education is the nihilistic anarchy we see in the streets of Ferguson.
Read the rest:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cLfGGkOUbr8J:blogs.timesofisrael.com/nine-parallels-between-palestine-and-ferguson/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au
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I found it very racist and condescending, no wonder they deleted the article, thankfully someone cached it.
Israel is training members of the anti-Iran terrorist Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) in Jordan along the border with Saudi Arabia in order to carry out acts of terror inside Iran and neighboring Iraq, Press TV has learnt.
According to sources, who declined to be named, the MKO terrorists are undergoing training on how to conduct terrorist operations in Iran and Iraq and receiving technical as well as information technology (IT) training from Israeli agents.
This is the first time it is revealed that anti-Iran MKO terrorists are being trained in Jordan along the border with Saudi Arabia.
Earlier reports had revealed that radical extremists are receiving terror training in Jordan before being sent into Syria and Iraq to carry out bomb attacks and join the ranks of the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front, ISIL Takfiri militants and other terrorist groups operating inside both violence-plagued Arab countries.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/01/388304/israel-training-mko-terrorists-in-jordan/
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Is anyone really surprised,? I didn’t think so.
Goering had nearly succeeded in beating the RAF, and, if he hadn’t switched to bombing civilian targets, he might well have been able to finish the job. No military objective justified the change in targeting.
Sir Edward Garnier ‘tried to stop Labour MP challenging Lord Brittan over child abuse claims’: Simon Danczuk says former Conservative Solicitor General tackled him on the evening before he was due to give evidence to Home Affairs select committee.
John, Is the opposite of a conspiracy theorist someone who believes that Governments are ALWAYS open and honest and would never harm their own citizens?
If so, then I have a little news for the anti-conspiracy theorists: Santa doesn’t exist.
I know, I know…it’s a shock. But it’s better to be open and honest about these things.
Phil @ 5:50
Too many pot-holes in Scottish opinion make the stain from f ‘conspiracy theory’ eggs on the vest. Imagine if Craig was questioned in a public debate about why he thinks it odd that the Beirut CIA station chief and $500k in CIA heroin were on the 747?
Not good
“The bigger the haystack, the harder the terrorist is to find”
That’s the whole point.
I’m getting tired of people buying into this narrative. Look- They don’t care about terrorists expect they are happy they exist, They care about ‘terrorism’ as a method of control, of everyone. Like paedophiles, they don’t care about them and will do sod all about the issue, they just care about shouting “we are looking for you paedophiles and terrorists” so everyone keeps there head down guilty or not.
It’s so blindingly obvious they WANT that haystack to include ALL OF US, and it practically already does. Do ANYTHING out of the “ordinary” and you may be a suspect, So don’t. Total conformism, total control. There’s are the things they dream about. And they have all you good tax payers money to do it with.
At least some of us say screw this and are not be a constant revenue stream for obviously the biggest terrorist organisations on the planet. In the build up to Iraq they terrorised us, most of us, with our lives, truth or lie that’s what they did. Does it make a difference if the gun is not leaded?
It’s an ongoing project. Please wake the fuck up.
At least some of us say screw this and are not * a constant revenue stream for obviously the biggest terrorist organisations on the planet.
AP: UN resolution: Israel must renounce nuclear arms:
It’s the booby hatch for you, Ben !
Julius Caesar invented a threat in southern Gaul (unfriendly tribes attacking friendly tribes) so he could grab their silver mines.
Same as it ever was.
Does it make a difference if the gun is not loaded*?
Habbabkuk:
“Herbie
‘Churchill bombed civilian targets in Germany first.
Why?
Was that a military advantage?’
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Are you referring to the couple of bombers sent to Berlin? If so, that was a response to Hitler’s vainglorious boast to the German people that the territory of the Reich was invulnerable and could never be attacked from the air by German’s enemies.
On the other hand, you might be referring to the bombardment, during the phony war, of Cologne and a couple of other Rhineland cities by…..leaflets?
Please clarify.”
I suppose he is referring to Arthur Harris’ “Moral Bombing” programme whose effects can still be seen today, very clearly, in almost every German city. Not just Berlin but countless others, such as Dresden, Hamburg, Frankfurt etc., have been razed to the ground. Coventry is everywhere in Germany. The value of this strategy is heavily disputed since the most effective strikes have been dealt to other targets than civilians and historical sites. Of course we will never know. I am German and am reminded of this part of history every day, since I’m studying in the city of Münster in Westfalen (ironically, it’s best known for the town hall († 1944) in which the Peace of Westphalia had been concluded in 1648) that has been literally annihilated by British and American bombardment. Later its historic centre was reconstructed, albeit with slight differences, and thus is a very present memory of the past.
I’m glad beyound words that Nazi Germany has lost the war and I think it too unsensible to complain about war crimes against it to consider doing so even just before myself. Even 70 years and three generations later I’m not in that position and there’s nothing to say about that. But that doesn’t mean the moral bombing or the expulsion of Germans from modern-day Poland should be forgotten, no less than the just as, if not more vicious bombings of English and French cities (and others) or the forced expulsion of other people(s), especially that of the Poles from the Kresy (that in particular because of its uncanny similarity to that of the Germans).
Please someone tell me what it is when the state and media broadcast a tale across the country of an imminent thereat to our lives.
Was this not the biggest act of terrorism we have ever experienced? And did it not cost hundreds lives of uk citizens and thousands+ abroad?
Let alone the effects of that fear for life on millions of innocent men women and children.
And people are still worried about some guy with a home made bomb in his underwear. ?
These people are psychotic. And we are not safe from them. The Government.
This establishment put a gun to my head..
I’m still mightily pissed about it. And this ain’t over by a long shot.
@Leon Friederichs
No campaign medal was struck for Bomber Command after the war, no credit given.
Even Churchill thought Harris went far too far.
UK foreign policy under this government is to make the public image of Islam very macho. Cowboy Islam swaggered into Mosul and took 3.5 quid from the local bank. You couldn’t make it up. That is the real reason for the rush to UKIP, the sense that our government is helping the bad guys to look sexy. We don’t want to actually live the beastly American Dream in real life.
One of the reasons why I respect voltairenet is that it understands that the news is now more fiction than reality; that Putin is role-playing being victimised when he is really part of Nuland’s midwifery team; that US,UK and IS are really ONE and the same thing philosophically, with Israel taking the blame.
The Israeli violence on Palestinians is a badge of honour for the US and UK enemies of Islam. And so many macho Jihadis eating USUKIS macho Islam swill at the same time from the same trough! The stink is worse than those East Anglian pig farms.
You and I are having our brains buggered by the media without even having to go to a film. I simply do not believe, as Craig states, that it is USUKIS foreign policy that drives Muslims to violence. It’s Muslims wanting to be a bit part in a big Hollywood epic like Jurassic Park with real live IS and Al Nusra Tyrannosauruses sharing the same screen…..
The cutting room is for mixing truth and reality, not for cutting comment in the Guardian. The truthseekers do not let the film fuck their brains and do not think Rusbridger is the actual demon. His job is to mix the nightmare terror into your waking routine so the banks and government can carry on raiding the tills again and again and again while you’re watching terror porn.