Honoured to give the keynote speech at Amnesty’s conference on torture in London yesterday. Then dashed back to Edinburgh for a very romantic evening with Nadira – and Cameron!
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Titushky is clearly a generic term for ‘thugs’ or incompetent ‘agents provocateurs’ and operated within both opposing and government forces in Ukraine for reward, thus one should not make any valid judgements on their actions. It is of course polemic to describe these paid hooligans as ‘Russian’ or from Russia without incontrovertible proof principally as their modus operandi creates chaos and fuzzy rationale.
I remind those who attempt to contaminate information here the knowledge we gained by the leaked EU’s Ashton phone tape that Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders shot and killed police and protesters.
There is now stronger and stronger Understanding That Behind the snipers, it WAS not Yanukovich, but it WAS somebody from the new Coalition,” Urmas Paet Said DURING the conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8
To me this video resembles and is perhaps analogous to the ‘red and grey’ nano-thermite(itty-bitty) chips found in WTC dust and analysed by a number of prominent and distinguished scientists around this planet.
Herbie
“I’ve already stated my view on violence, whether it be from govts or civilians. I’m agin it, unless of course in self-defence.”
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“unless of course in self-defence” – a cunning let-out, Herbie.
How would you define “self defence” in the context of the demonstration advertised by Phil?
Clark
“Demonstrators wear masks for various reasons, the most common being to make some point. They wear mask in a political character’s likeness for purposes of parody, or they wear a Guy Fawkes mask to show support for Anonymous.”
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I wouldn’t disagree with that, Clark. But tell me : those demonstrators wearing plain face masks (“cagoules” in French) – what point are they trying to make in your opinion?
RobG
“Habba, you would just love the ‘Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act’, which was passed into law last year (by Queenypoos), and which effectively makes peaceful protest in the UK illegal.”
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Could you give us a little chapter and verse on this one, Rob?
Are we to assume from your assertion that there will be no more peaceful protests in the UK? Eg, that the protest announced by our friend Phil will not now take place?
Habbabkuk, I hope you will oppose the banning of face coverings at demonstrations for the same reason that Resident Dissident defends his use of a pseudonym at this site.
You use a mask continually at this site, too.
Habbabkuk, I don’t know what point any French demonstrators could be making. I note, however, that French demonstrations are considerably more physical than British ones, on average.
Mr Tsipras is beginning to disappoint his supporters both in and out of the Greek Parliament.
He is proposing as the next President of the Hellenic Republic a certain Mr Prokopis Pavlopoulos, who was, by common consent, a notably clownish and incompetent Minister of the Interior in a previous New Democracy government.
Mr Tsipras’s supporters and fellow MPs are VERY angry.
Could it be that Mr Tsipras is not a new-style Greek God but just an old-style Greek politician?
Clark
On the contrary, I should approve any such banning most enthusiastically.
As far as I can see, Resident Dissident is not trying to cause mayhem on this blog – quite the contrary.
And he has never threatened anyone on here with physical violence; that is the prerogative of the spendid Nevermind and one other gorilla whose name escapes me for the while. 🙂
Clark
“Habbabkuk, I don’t know what point any French demonstrators could be making.”
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Nor can I, Clark.
To make it easier for you: can you tell me what point BRITISH demonstrators might be making by donning ordinary face masks?
And also, perhaps, why the vast majority of British demonstrators engaged in peaceful protest on British streets see no need to wear ordinary face masks?
Habbabkuk, your ban on masks would, on this site, affect Resident Dissident and yourself just as much as Nevermind.
Give it up. It’s a bad and repressive idea.
I clearly remember witnessing the crowds of mainly youngsters protesting against Cast Lead in Kensington High Street in 2009 being kettled, provoked and corralled by the Met. German Shepherd dogs were led in and the riot squad were waiting in dozens of vans in the side streets. A police helicopter was over flying.
Many of these protesters were young Muslims and they ended up with jail sentences at Isleworth Crown Court. They have criminal convictions for life.
Know Your Rights at Palestine Demo. History of Protestors Sentenced During Operation Cast Lead
https://peaceandcommunity.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/know-your-rights-at-palestine-demo-history-of-protestors-sentenced-during-operation-cast-lead/
Pro-Palestinian Protest at Isleworth Crown Court
26 February 2010
http://www.demotix.com/news/261240/pro-palestinian-protest-isleworth-crown-court#media-261231
Fighting talk form the Greek Finance Minister;
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/opinion/yanis-varoufakis-no-time-for-games-in-europe.html?_r=0
Habbabkuk, the matter of social segregation is FAR more important than face masks. Those who attend Thursday’s demonstration will be performing an important social duty, helping to keep the UK a free country.
Social segregation goes hand in hand with fascism.
Mary, I was on that protest in 2009. The police had built a huge obstruction across about three quarters of the road, just beyond the Israeli Embassy, such that it caused the procession to bunch into a dense crowd right outside the building.
David Bowie says his piece on Ukraine.
http://professorsblogg.com/2014/09/05/singer-david-bowies-statement-on-courage-will-for-freedom-of-east-ukraine-citizens/
Not only based on confessions induced by torture, but the 9/11 Commission staffers not only weren’t allowed access to the people who made the confessions, they weren’t even given proper transcripts of the interrogations, only summaries that the interrogators wrote.
Habbabreak
You are like a scared child running around telling tales. Running to mods, Craig, employers. Big threats from an anonymous coward on the internet.
Go on then. Ring 999 and tell them your fears, someone wrote ‘lively’ on the internet! Be sure to keep us informed on how that goes.
Of course you won’t. You’re all mouth. You disgust me.
The 2001 anthrax letters were certainly a false flag. The text of the letters was intended to suggest one or more Muslims were responsible:
Apparently the separatists have taken control of about 10% of Delbatsevo. The Ukrainian army is apparently bottlenecking in the city. Prisoners of war are being escorted out. A ‘green corrider’ was offered to them on Sunday but they refused (which answers RD’s question) they were not firing on them, they were defending themselves.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/debaltsevo
I like many others would like to see all the fighting stop, all the heavy artillery moved back to the designated areas. As one tweeter put it.
“Some decent, good-hearted Ukrainians died in #Debaltsevo #debaltseve too. Those who were forced by @Poroshenko to join this needless war.”
Clark
“Mary, I was on that protest in 2009.”
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I suspect you weren’t wearing a face mask, Clark.
If that is correct, you clearly saw no need to wear one. Can you explain why you saw no need to do so? Could it be because you did not attend as a casseur and had no intention of indulging in violent behaviour?
Habba, due to my ongoing computer problems I am now having to fight with one arm tied behind my back. However, this link gives an assessment of the ‘Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act’
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/11/11/the-birth-of-a-police-state-uk-police-to-be-granted-sweeping-new-powers-2/
The above article was written before this Act became law last year.
“10% of Delbatsevo” should read “10% of Debaltsevo”.
Phil
“Habbabreak
You are like a scared child running around telling tales. Running to mods, Craig, employers. Big threats from an anonymous coward on the internet.”
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How is reposting something Macky scribbled on Squonk “running around telling tales”?
You could argue that Macky was telling tales about CM and commenters on here on another forum, couldn’t you?
And where are “the big threats” other than in your fevered imagination?
Anyway, go and enjoy your (perfectly respectable in its intention) demonstration, just leave the bricks and spikes at home and you’ll be alright.
Habbabkuk, I’m sure you’ve stopped beating your wife. Can you assure me that you really have stopped beating your wife? Why is it that you no longer feel any need to beat your wife?
John Goss ref Peter Oborne. From a thread on Medialens. Interesting.
‘Re: Peter Oborne: ‘Why I have resigned from the Telegraph’
Posted by johnlilburne on February 17, 2015, 7:51 pm, in reply to “Peter Oborne: ‘Why I have resigned from the Telegraph'”
Last week I made another discovery. Three years ago the Telegraph investigations team—the same lot who carried out the superb MPs’ expenses investigation—received a tip off about accounts held with HSBC in Jersey. Essentially this investigation was similar to the Panorama investigation into the Swiss banking arm of HSBC. After three months research the Telegraph resolved to publish. Six articles on this subject can now be found online, between 8 and 15 November 2012, although three are not available to view.
Thereafter no fresh reports appeared. Reporters were ordered to destroy all emails, reports and documents related to the HSBC investigation. I have now learnt, in a remarkable departure from normal practice, that at this stage lawyers for the Barclay brothers became closely involved. When I asked the Telegraph why the Barclay brothers were involved, it declined to comment.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-oborne/why-i-have-resigned-from-telegraph
In 1993, the Barclay brothers purchased the island of Brecqhou, situated just west of Sark in the Channel Islands.
Upon completion of the deal, the Barclays immediately set about commissioning the design and build of a £60m gothic-style mansion, an imposing walled building that now dominates the island’s north face.
http://www.businesswings.co.uk/articles/Who-are-the-Barclay-Brothers
I guess if own you a large pad on your very own Channel Island it makes sense to bank in Jersey, especially with a bank that can help you with your tax planning.’
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1424199796.html
A video on 9/11 by someone who woke up pretty late!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc
Pity his wife if he has one!
Mary, the world would be so much better without banksters who bankroll the media. We need a World Bank (and I don’t mean that excuse for one) and strict banking practices need to be imposed. Bankers bonuses need to go. Good investigative work.
RobG
“Habba, due to my ongoing computer problems I am now having to fight with one arm tied behind my back. However, this link gives an assessment of the ‘Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act’
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/11/11/the-birth-of-a-police-state-uk-police-to-be-granted-sweeping-new-powers-2/”
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Well, I’ve read your link and also the link therein to sections of the Act you appear to take issue with but have found little or nothing which refers to demonstrations or protests. There is however a fair bit on anti-social behaviour of various kinds – eg, builders making a persistent nuisance of themselves when at work.
Could you help me by pointing to the provisions of the Act which will make peaceful protests and demonstrations illegal (as you claimed at 19h21 earlier this evening)? A simple summary or even reference to the relevant sections and claises of the Act would be acceptable.
Thanks.
Habbakuk
You still haven’t made your position clear on wife beating. We await your clear explanation old chap. Are you still beating her? Are you?
Your silence on this matter speaks volumes. Old chap.