Honoured to give the keynote speech at Amnesty’s conference on torture in London yesterday. Then dashed back to Edinburgh for a very romantic evening with Nadira – and Cameron!
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F*ck me, Oops! excuse my French, we spent million burying that old bitch Thatcher, giving her a state funeral, Thatcher who was close friends, with Jimmy Savile and General Pinochet, is now to, have a museum build in her honour, at a cost of £15 million quid.
Has this country completely lost the plot? if anything Thatcher should have been hung on London bridge, after she died and left for the crows.
She single handedly, destroyed the UK’s heavy industries, and her vendetta against the unions, cost untold suffering and misery, as she pursed Milton Friedman’s far right ideals.
This museum shows, just how detached from reality the Westminster, rabble really are.
Macky
“For those who only get their information from the mainstream media, a must read;”
Macky you are commenting on page 15 of an relatively obscure blog which is extremely focused on awareness of propaganda. I doubt anyone reading your comment will self identify with your criteria for following the link.
BTW Personally I am always wary that “a must read” is often a signal of zealotry leading to a dull, partial read.
One would think (judging from a previous comment) that only gangs of Pakistani men sexually abused children.
Not teachers in private and state schools, not clerics in the CoE and the Catholic church, not entertainers and disc jockeys employed by the BBC, not politicians and lords of the realm and not countless others, all of whom have pink skins rather than brown.
PS Could the troll cut the personal terms of abuse. My dear old dog IS a bitch. I am not.
“Fred, the nationalists that did what?”
Shot Nemstov.
A Jim Murphy Tweet, that was quickly removed, but not before someone took a screen shot.
“If the American’s, had Trident in world War 2, the German army wouldn’t have dared attack Pearl Harbour.”
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Unbelievably some people in Scotland, are going to vote for this clown.
http://munguinsrepublic.blogspot.co.uk/
Mad Jim Murphy, spent 9 years at Strathclyde university, and left without, graduating, and it shows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Murphy
A vote for London Labour in Scotland, is a wasted vote.
“Fred, aren’t you a British nationalist?”
No.
@Phil, nothing to say about the article itself ?
BTW Here’s that question again that you avoided last night:
@Phil, How does opposing all the phony pro-war arguments that aim to give cover & justification for NATO to potentially turn Russia into another failed state equate to “supporting Putin and his team of insane elitists you merely perpetuate the system” ?!!!!!
RoS
“Nicola Sturgeon, giving a decisive answer, in an interview with the Guardian newspaper, “We’ll never vote to renew Trident.””
Sure, that’s what the SNP PR team want you to read. Of course the real story in Sturgeons interview is that the SNP are backtracking on Trident. This is the opening par from the article:
“Nicola Sturgeon has dropped demands that a minority Labour government must cancel a new Trident nuclear weapon in return for the Scottish National party’s backing at Westminster.”
So that’s backtracking on Trident. Just as they did on NATO and the monarchy.
The SNP: just another bog standard bunch of shites.
Macky
“How does opposing all the phony pro-war arguments that aim to give cover & justification for NATO to potentially turn Russia into another failed state equate to “supporting Putin and his team of insane elitists you merely perpetuate the system” ?!!!!!”
Er, it doesn’t. I have never said it did.
Very compelling use of multiple asterisks though. You should combine them with your appeals to ‘must read’. And go on, bung in some capitalisation.
A MUST READ!!!!!
Here’s a little speculation.
All this talk I am hearing from SNP politicians about how they want to improve the conditions for everyone in the UK. Could these be the first whispers of ‘adjusting’ their core policy? Is that possible? A more devolved but still joined union? You know, like they have done on other previously core policies.
The things parties will do for power.
” She single handedly, destroyed the UK’s heavy industries, ”
No, she had a lot of help from management and the unions who actually started on the project long before she came to power.
Phil: “Er, it doesn’t. I have never said it did.”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/02/amnesty-international-conference-on-torture/comment-page-15/#comment-512982
Macky
You are hilariously mad. My comment you link to does not say that I think opposing war propaganda equates to supporting Putin. It says:
“by supporting Putin and his team of insane elitists you merely perpetuate the system.”
Which is something entirely different.
Look Macky.
Of course Putin is being demonised as part of NATO’s war. Like all enemies are by all regimes. So it is true to say that Putin is not as bad as NATO propaganda says. However, it is also true to say he is a mass murderer who supports the rule of a wealthy few.
Another example. It was true to point out that Saddam was demonised by the NATO war machine. But to say you then support Saddam and applaud him for ending up in a war with NATO is another matter. To refuse to say he was just another evil bastard and attack anyone who dared critcise an enemy of NATO is another matter. You are insisting on lies. It’s zealous bullshit.
Phil; “Which is something entirely different.”
So what system was I seeking to perpetuate when I marched against the attack on Iraq, or objected to the attacks on Afganistan, Libya, Syria etc ?
Phil: “To refuse to say he was just another evil bastard and attack anyone who dared critcise an enemy of NATO is another matter. You are insisting on lies. It’s zealous bullshit.3
That classic Euston Manifesto strawman nonsense: if you object to the demonizing propaganda against the personification of a New Hitler, which is just being used as a blatant cover to justify waging war against a whole country & its people, who are the latest real target in the Neo-Cons cross-wires , then you are tyrant loving devil worshipper !
Not really an argument for adults Phil.
You seem to be cured of the paranoia that made you believe that I was Tony M, but you seem to now share Clark’s paranoid delusion that I (& Herbie, & John Goss) am working directly for & under instruction from the Kremlin !!
Macky
So you couldn’t find a comment by me that actually said what you hoped then?
You resort to your default aloof bluster. I genuinely don’t understand your point.
Phil; “I genuinely don’t understand your point.”
Ok, back to basics;
1. War is bad.
2. USA is on a rampage.
3. USA is trying to provoke Russia into a war.
4. War propaganda fills Western MSM, (to condition acceptance of latest war)
5. People who counter this propaganda do so because they don’t want the horrors of war, NOT because they support a person or country against the West.
Which bit is causing you problems Phil ?
Macky
None of it Macky. Perhaps we are approaching agreement and have wasted much of our time recently.
So answer my question:
Do you agree that Putin is a mass murderer who ruthlessly enforces the rule of a wealthy few?
Mary
“One would think (judging from a previous comment) that only gangs of Pakistani men sexually abused children.”
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And one would think exactly the opposite if one only ever read your “comments”.
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Re “bitch” : if your dog is one, then that makes a pair of you, doesn’t it. Just doing a Fred on you – you call me Troll, I’ll cal you Bitch. Seems fair.
Mary re child-abusers
“Not teachers in private and state schools, not clerics in the CoE and the Catholic church, not entertainers and disc jockeys employed by the BBC, not politicians and lords of the realm and not countless others”
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You have posted copiously about all of the above categories of child-abusers.
But you have never once posted about the mainly Pakistani gangs of child-abusers.
Why is that, Mary??
Iain
Thanks for recommending the Clifford Harpur book. I have only skimmed through so far but it looks like a very interesting guide to anti-authoritarian history.
https://libcom.org/files/anarchy-graphic-guide-clifford-harper.pdf
Mary
I believe you don’t care in the slightest about the awful abuse of children in the UK.
You only raise the issue from time to time to get in a kick at Conservative MPs, MPs in general and other figures in the public sphere (the higher placed, the better).
That is your motivation and that is where your interest lies.
And that – together with your insinuations about anyone whoi points this out – is why you’re an evil old Bitch.
Phil: “Do you agree that Putin is a mass murderer who ruthlessly enforces the rule of a wealthy few?”
That probably comes literally with the territory in certain countries, including many in the West; three things to point out though;
1.Any country’s leader will always be the New Hitler, when it is being selected for attack, so crimes will be embellished & exaggerated.
2.In the Ukraine situation, given the real politic of the situation I believe that he has reacted in a very restrained manner, in the face of immense provocation.
3.Don’t know too much personal details to hold him out as especially evil compared to other evil leaders.
However all this is beside the point, because now is NOT the time to concern ourselves with how bad Putin is, because is it Russia that is under attack, and the ground is being prepared by lies & pro-war propaganda; you can either oppose the drift to war by exposing the lies & propaganda, or you can aid & support the drift to war by participating in the pro-war propaganda, of which demonizing Putin NOW is a major part.
Anon
Not sure if I agree that all of Curtis’ films are lacking in content. He has progressively moved towards less facts per minute (especially with his last 3). He seems to be questioni8ng the simplification of complex issues being presented as false narratives. But doing so in an increasingly straightforward and emotionally affecting way. Which in itself can be either viewed as a contradiction or brilliant storytelling. Probably both.
I do agree that the dechamp scenes are priceless and love your analogy to a bad acid trip.
Gosh. He is worked up about the sexual abuse of children isn’t he.
The IDF was referred to in the same context in one of his comments. I know all about their physical abuse of Palestinian children but as far as I know, they have not sunk so low as to sexually abuse them too.
Macky
“However all this is beside the point, because now is NOT the time to concern ourselves with how bad Putin is”
Well there you have it. This is where we fundamentally disgree. You refuse to call an elitist mass murderer for what he is. You attack anyone who does. You insist on a lie.
You cannot challenge the rule of insane elites by cheerleading another insane elite. It’s really that simple.
You mean the T-72 tanks supplied to the separatists by Russia lol:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iiss-experts-say-russian-tank-in-eastern-ukraine-shows-russia-is-supplying-arms-to-rebels-9695852.html
No the tanks in the BBC report I believe are T64.
In this image (not from a satellite or Google earth) we witness a real T72 bought by the way at cut-price – in fact a ‘steal’ for a life-size piece of production furniture.
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/lies-about-tanks-in-ukraine.html
More stuff that I fully appreciate that few will want to listen to. This is from the recent Caldicott symposium in New York. This clip starts will Dr Steven Starr taking about nuclear weapons. Everything Starr says is factually correct, and even if you only watch the first few minutes of it you will learn something…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJuuDv6tzt8
Those of us who lived through the Cold War are very familiar with all this doomsday stuff. Problem is, generations are now growing up who have no understanding whatsoever of nuclear matters, because their governments deliberately don’t tell them about it (much better to let the plebs fuck around on Facebook instead).
Which brings me onto an old ABC News debate about nuclear weapons, from the 1980s. This sort of debate would never happen today (hello Stepford Wives). Listen to the voices, and watch the body language, of participants like Kissinger, McNamara and Buckley, who basically try to intellectualise mass murder (exactly the same as the Nazis did). It should be noted that at the time of this debate, in 1983, the USA and USSR each had about 20,000 nuclear warheads, which was enough to wipe out all life on Earth many, many times over. It should also be noted that even today both the USA and Russia still each have about 5,000 nuclear warheads, the majority of which are on hair-trigger alert. In otherwords, armageddon has never gone away. It’s just as mad now as it was back then; but keep taking the drugs, folks, so that you don’t have to think about the psychopaths with their fingers on the button. Many of us in the western world are guilty, because we vote into power lunatics who should really be in an asylum. And so it goes…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3CLeA2bOKU
It’s more likely to be an arrangement where we would support Labour on an issue-by-issue basis,” she said, in the first of a filmed series of leader’s interviews by the Guardian. “On that basis, there are many issues we could agree on which we would support but we would not vote for Trident.”
We will never vote for the renewal of Trident; that’s a decision which will be made in the next Westminster parliament
Nicola Sturgeon
Asked explicitly if that meant the SNP could still back Labour policies without Ed Miliband promising to scrap Trident, she did not disagree, replying: “But we would not in any vote support the renewal of Trident and I can’t make that any clearer than I have already made it.
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Phil, the SNP won’t support Trident, but they can’t force Labour not to renew it, they can only oppose it.
On other matter is would be possible to have a consensus
In no way as far as I can see, would the SNP condone the renewal of Trident they’d get murdered at the polls.
Ah for the love of habba’s clenched buttocks.I wish I could post a comment past the evil gatekeepers sphincter.