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  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Lysias

    Keep wondering.

    On my side, I’m wondering whether your reluctance to tell us which Oxford college you attended (aren’t you proud of your college?) and your reluctance to explain what a US Navy man was doing in the US garrison in West-Berlin (an Army garrison, apparently) might not have an entirely innocent explanation.

    Is it that that you’re afraid of being identified more easily if you shared that information?

    If that’s your fear, please accept my assurance that it is unfounded.

  • Republicofscotland

    2If the SNP holds the balance of power after the imminent election, I wonder if they will make ending Trident (or at least getting it out of Scotland) one of their conditions for supporting a government.”
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    Lysias, I sincerely hope so, I hear the Welsh are quite keen to take them on, though I’m not sure how Plaid Cymru would react.

    I’m pretty sure the river Thames, could house the WMD’s, and the tourists would love watching the nuclear subs, chug up and down, by Westminster, leaking radioactive fluids all over the place.

    Think of the endless photo shoots for Boris Johnson, as he posed with voters with HMS radiation behind him.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Republicofscotland

    “The Israeli foreign minister has called for the beheading of all Arabs living in the occupied territories, only because of their opposition to the policies of the Tel Aviv regime.”
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    And I call for you to be beheaded and your head boiled, RoS.

    I’m very partial to boiled turnip.

  • Republicofscotland

    “I’m very partial to boiled turnip.”
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    Finally something we have in common.

  • Uzbek in the UK

    John Goss

    What a bull of crap in your post. I say you know nothing of Russia except crap you get from RT or Novorrossiya type of media sources. What I do not understand and CANNOT believe is that how someone who was born here (in the west) and educated here could be so blind? To me this could be the case only in case of being deliberate.

  • Mary

    RT’s Going Underground: Gilad Atzmon, Gaza Mon Amour & Zionist intimidation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Fq2bjHm_k&feature=youtu.be

    Afshin Rattansi goes underground with jazz saxophonist Gilad Atzmon, discusses Israel and Palestine, after one of his gigs was cancelled due to ‘safety concerns’ after the venue was ‘blitzed with a lot of extremist and threatening messages’ from a pro-Israeli group.

  • Uzbek in the UK

    John Goss

    If you are looking for a true modern day fascists you find no better example than people gathered near Vlad (including almighty Russian himself) . He even turned Russian Orthodox Church into his propaganda machine. Read little about Russian Patriarch who accidentally has strong links to KGB.

    Have you heard about Black Hundreds (Shernaya Sotnya in Russian). No difference to Stormtroopers. This kind of organisations have all established under Vlad himself.

    You who criticise BBC keep your mouth shut on what is going on with Russian media. In the years of Vlad’s there is NOT a SINGLE media source which is not approved by KGB. Most controlled by Vlad’s best mates. Do you know what has happened to NTV in 2000?

    Do you see any difference between Goebbels and Dmitrii Kisilev?

  • Republicofscotland

    Since the current US ambassador, John C.Tefft, arrived in Russia, Mr Nemtsov, has been killed, while John C.Tefft was in Georgia, Mr Zhvaniya was killed, and when John C.Tefft was in Ukraine, Mr Gongadze, was killed…Coincidence? or what?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Lysias opines:

    “There’s all the difference in the world between Putin’s government and Stalin’s. Stalin’s government persecuted religion. Putin’s fosters the Russian Orthodox Church.”
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    Not that much difference, actually. Uncle Joe co-opted (or “fostered”, if you prefer) the Church, especially after the start of the war with Germany. Puppet Patriarchs who were also NKVD assets.

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    “We fought the Cold War against Communism because it was godless.”

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    Not true either, although that was one of the sillier arguments advanced by some, especially in the USA.

    We fought the Cold War because we didn’t want what happened to Easter Europe to happen to us. And thank God it didn’t.

  • Republicofscotland

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile

    Nobody from John Humphrys in the morning to Evan Davis at night dares mention a scandal at the BBC. It undermines their reporting of every abuse whistleblowers reveal. It reinforces the dirty common sense of British life that you must keep your head down if you want to keep your job.

    The scandal is simply this: the BBC is forcing out or demoting the journalists who exposed Jimmy Savile as a voracious abuser of girls. As Meirion Jones put it to me. There is a small group of powerful people at the BBC who think it would have been better if the truth about Savile had never come out. And they aim to punish the reporters who revealed it.

    The poor old BBC, riddled to the core with deviants, and ran by, deluded, empirically minded zealots.

  • Phil

    Herbie

    Aplogies if you feel I abandoned our conversation but you did go down the pub. And I’m a bit busy to spend any time here right now.

  • John Goss

    Uzbek, I take it then, as you did not criticise that you do support the Azov Nazis?

    Yes, I was born and educated here. For many years I believed the bullshit. But one of the advantages of my education is it taught me not to accept things on face value. So I question. If Warsaw Pact countries were surrounding Germany with military bases I would be just as critical as I am of NATO countries today.

  • lysias

    Wikipedia: Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union:

    Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922-1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet policy, based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs.[1]

    The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.[4][5] The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies, has been estimated to range between 12-20 million.[6][7][8]

    Wikipedia mentions the period of toleration after the German invasion and the more limited toleration after World War Two. It also details how the persecution was resumed starting in 1958.

  • Mary

    The appalling HSBC bunch, looking and sounding sheepish, were in front of Mrs Hodge’s committee today. She gave them what for. For all the good that will achieve. I include the chair of the BBC Trust Ms Fairhead.

    HSBC boss admits ‘reputation damage’
    Stuart Gulliver, the chief executive of HSBC, tells MPs his personal financial arrangements have led HSBC to suffer reputational damage.
    Live: HSBC bosses answer questions
    HSBC boss:My tax affairs are in order
    Argentina demands $3.5bn from HSBC
    Ahmed: Where does responsibility lie?
    HSBC ‘helped clients dodge tax’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31799405

    How low can they all go?

    Why did Cameron give Fairhead the BBC job?

    Questions to which we will not be given answers.

  • Herbie

    OK Phil

    I’m interested in how you see things panning out in terms of anarchism.

    For me the state is a vehicle. It’s not an end in itself.

    I’d probably argue that if we had a few generations of the policies we saw in the post-war consensus then something like anarchism might more easily emerge.

    Even with just one generation of such policies there emerged quite a lot of anarchist thinking and practice.

  • Jay

    @Phil

    Instead of going after inequality better go after stupidity in society. As we all have equal rights to be stupid and stupidly is greater in society than equality as what were getting is more stupidity.

    We need higher quality in society and less stupidity. Both of which are massively affected by education and indoctrination.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Funny how people on here blow hot and cold about Wikipedia.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    RobG

    “An open letter to Theresa May demanding a ‘fit for purpose’ child abuse inquiry…

    https://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/an-open-letter-to-theresa-may-demanding-a-fit-for-purpose-child-abuse-inquiry/”

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    Thanks for that link, Rob. I’ve noticed something rather strange. One of the reasons given by the signatories of the letter is that

    “Thirdly, that the cut-off date for the Inquiry investigations was set at 1970 is highly disturbing…”

    Was it not you who, in a recent post on here, was complaining about the new head of the enquiry (the New Zealand judge) saying that the enquiry might have to look back as far as 1945?

    It seems to me that you’re not quite on the same wavelength as the signatories of the open letter on this specific point.

  • Resident Dissident

    “My suspicion is that you have never been to Russia in your entire life.”

    And my suspicion is that you never visited after the break up of the Soviet Union – and even when you did visit Russia you never got far away from the clutches of Intourist. Your ridiculous parroting of fascist suggests you are similarly clueless about what it was like living in a Soviet colony. Trust me even if Uzbek in the UK has never been to Russia he will know more about the realities of Russia, the KGB and the Soviet Union than you ever will.

  • Resident Dissident

    Mr Goss

    Who held Shirokino at the time of the Minsk II ceasefire? Answer that question honestly and you will know who the aggressors are? On the other hand you could put up another cloud of puffball dust – especially from that web site of yours that honours Molotov the well known Nazi collaborator.

  • John Goss

    “Trust me even if Uzbek in the UK has never been to Russia he will know more about the realities of Russia, the KGB and the Soviet Union than you ever will.”

    Trust you. You’re the last person on this blog I would trust. For good reason. And not just for your support for the AZOV fascists.

  • RobG

    Habba, I don’t think it was me who spoke of the New Zealand judge; and you seem to miss the point about the open letter to Theresa May: they are asking for the enquiry to be more up to date than 1970 and before.

    Mary or others might have already posted the following link, which comes from Exaro News at the weekend…

    http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5516/police-raid-leon-brittan-s-properties-in-london-and-yorkshire

    I believe the Exaro News story has been picked-up today by the likes of the Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph, although I haven’t had a chance yet to read this MSM coverage, and thus can’t verify or comment on it.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mr Goss (to Resident Dissident)

    “Trust you. You’re the last person on this blog I would trust.”
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    I deeply resent the above statement. Surely it is I who is the very last person on this blog you would trust?

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