Honoured to give the keynote speech at Amnesty’s conference on torture in London yesterday. Then dashed back to Edinburgh for a very romantic evening with Nadira – and Cameron!
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RobG
re the 1970 “cut-off” date : just to get the remit of the inquiry clear – is it to cover events up to 1970 or events from 1970 to date?
I had thought it was the latter.
If it was, then my comment about the signatories of the letter and whoever posted the complaint I referred to (happy to accept it wasn’t you*) not being on the same wavelength stands.
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* can you recall who it was? Mary, perhaps?
Of course Mr Goss again avoids answering the question. Slippery is not the word.
Jay
9 Mar, 2015 – 7:22 pm
“Instead of going after inequality better go after stupidity in society. As we all have equal rights to be stupid and stupidly is greater in society than equality as what were getting is more stupidity.
We need higher quality in society and less stupidity. Both of which are massively affected by education and indoctrination.”
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I completely agree.
I often don’t do myself any favours, because I often completely lose my rag over this stuff.
I’d like to tell people to step back and look at things from a distance, with some perspective. The present human condition is one of complete insanity, and perhaps it’s simplistic to blame it on the small percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths who dwell amongst us.
But the fact is that the socios and psychos are now in almost complete control. Such personalities bubble to the top, because of the way our societies are structured (ie, money is God).
If we are to survive as a specis, something very radical needs to happen; and it’s got to happen sometime soon.
The second Minsk protocol was agreed on 12 February, the first having been violated by Kiev Ukrainian forces against the peace-loving people of the Donbas.
Here are the AZOV fascists (your lot Resident Dissident) on 16 February 2015 trying to take control of Shirokino in violation of Minsk II.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUYwY21zMk
“The second Minsk protocol was agreed on 12 February, the first having been violated by Kiev Ukrainian forces against the peace-loving people of the Donbas.
Here are the AZOV fascists (your lot Resident Dissident) on 16 February 2015 trying to take control of Shirokino in violation of Minsk II.”
But on the 12th of February:
“The pro-Kiev Azov battalion said on its Facebook account that it had repulsed rebel attacks on Shirokino on Thursday, although it said a significant number of homes in the village have been destroyed.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/12/ukraine-troops-russia-rebels-minsk-ceasefire-nato
Yes the Guardian report was on 12 February meaning it was reporting news of the 11th but there are two things that have to be considered. The first is do you believe the AZOV fascists? The second is, as the Guardian report says, the ceasefire was due to take place at the weekend, being the 14th and 15th February. On 16th February, according to AZOV’s own video they are clearly seen on the outskirts of Shirokino firing into the village. I think it is pretty clear.
I do not support the fascists! If you Fred and Resident Dissident wish to support them that is up to you. What I cannot understand is when the Israelis are committing genocide agaisnt the Palestinians everyone on the blog is opposed to it. But when it is the Kiev fascists through their AZOV NAZI army committing genocide you agree with it just to score points against the nasty Russians in your weak heads!
Resident Dissident; “And my suspicion is that you never visited after the break up of the Soviet Union”
Here’s somebody who did a lot, and guess what, he doesn’t agree with you;
http://thesaker.is/russias-remarkable-renaissance/
For those that keep going on about Putin this, and Putin that, etc, here’s some words of commonsense;
“More often than not, the U.S. public is advised to favor a war on a single individual of demonic nature, even though a war against an individual is completely nonsensical. According to nonsensical propaganda, you don’t bomb Iraqis; you bomb former-U.S.-ally Saddam Hussein. You don’t bomb Afghans; you bomb former-U.S.-ally Osama bin Laden. You don’t drone kill Pakistani and Yemeni and Somali children and women and men; you drone kill Al Qaeda Terrorist Number Three, over and over again. You don’t liberate Libya from what stability it had; you kill former-U.S.-ally Muammar Gadaffi. You don’t attack Panama; you attack former-U.S.-ally Manuel Noriega. Et cetera et cetera.”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41176.htm
Habba, the open letter to Theresa May asks for enquiries into child sex abuse right up to the present day (anyone can read the link to it that I posted a bit further up this comment page).
And wonder of wonders, here’s a recent BBC piece:
Timeline: 1980s child abuse allegations
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28195580
It’s all so fecking sick and corrupt that it’s beyond belief, and yet certain folks come on comment threads like this and maintain that it’s all ‘normal’.
Just like it’s ‘normal’ to have thousands of nuclear weapons on hair-trigger alert, how it’s completely normal to ignore a major catastrophe like Fukushima, how it’s completely normal to ignore the death of the Pacific Ocean, how it’s completely normal to have the US Frankenstein pushing up against the borders of Russia.
And how it’s completely normal not to have any kind of real debate about this stuff in the mainstream media.
You know where to stick your kind of ‘normal’, thank you.
We have to remove the vermin from our societies, or else the human race have had it.
“…. The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies, has been estimated to range between 12-20 million.[6][7][8]”
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An appropriate correction to the above bit of misinformation from our friend Lysias in apparent agreement with Wikipedia is the following, taken from David Satter’s excellent book “It was a long time ago, and it never happened – Russia and the Communist past”:
“But the description of Butova as the “Russian Calvary” is a misrepresentation. Even those victims who had been christened in the Orthodox Church did not, in most cases, die for their faith. Only the representatives of the church buried at Butova can be regarded as having died for religious reasons, and they are but a small percentage of the known victims.The overwhelming majority of Stalin’s victims were no more religious martyrs than they were terrorists and spies. They were the random victims of political terror that was initiated in order to guarantee the absolute domination of a totalitarian regime.”.
@RobG
Not the best use of language in my case.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=Confounded&searchmode=none
No just unwise!
RobG
“Habba, the open letter to Theresa May asks for enquiries into child sex abuse right up to the present day (anyone can read the link to it that I posted a bit further up this comment page).”
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My question was, RobG,, the following: does the Inquiry’s remit only cover the period up to 1970 (and therefore not the years after 1970) or does it cover only the period after 1970 (and therefore not the years before)?
Please answer that question clearly and then we’ll get onto what the open letter says or does not say.
Off you go.
“What I cannot understand is when the Israelis are committing genocide agaisnt the Palestinians everyone on the blog is opposed to it. But when it is the Kiev fascists through their AZOV NAZI army committing genocide you agree with it just to score points against the nasty Russians in your weak heads!”
John Goss, no-one, as far as I can see, is agreeing with genocide, or any kind of murder, or violence.
“I do not support the fascists! If you Fred and Resident Dissident wish to support them that is up to you.”
I don’t support anybody.
When someone on the blog says one thing and someone else says something else I check to see which one is telling the truth. Like when someone says a picture is a picture of tanks and someone else says they are combine harvesters I look at the picture to see for myself.
As far as I’m concerned they are Ukrainian Nationalists fighting Russian Nationalists and the world would be a better place without either of them.
My GOD how many lies comes out of these MWL mouths. If RT portraits Ukrainians as fascist MWF here as one.
John Goss why have you not condemned assassination of Nemtcov? Why have you not condemned awarding state order to Lugovoi who is main suspect in Litvinenko assassination? Why have you not condemned award of yet another order to Ramzan Kadirov (you just need to watch few youtube videos with him to get an idea of his personality)?
You make a LOT of noise about things that DO NOT exist (like Fascists in Ukraine in great numbers) BUT you keep you mouth SHUT on issues I have highlighted above. WHY?
“As far as I’m concerned they are Ukrainian Nationalists fighting Russian Nationalists and the world would be a better place without either of them.”
NOT quite right. There are many Ukrainian Nationalist (in good term of this word just like Scottish Nationalists) fighting regular Russian army. NOT sure if after Putin’s revelations today about planned undercover operation to return Crimea to Russia there is anyone who would believe that there are no regular Russian army fighting in Donbass today?
John Goss
You clearly do not follow my posts. Many times I have stated that I have been to Russia many times.
To add to it I have quite a few friends in Russia who are either Russians or not. To add to this I have many Russian friends who do not live in Russia. To add to this I have many friends who speaks Russian but not Russians.
I have been visiting Russia since it was center of Soviet Empire. I have been to Russia many times since Vlad the Mobster has taken over Kremlin’s residence. I would have expanded my credentials about Russia but I am afraid that I might accidentally give out too much. I sincerely hope that it is NOT what you really want by questioning me?
Habba, how you can go into obscure points whilst we are all facing nuclear annihilation is totally breathtaking.
You are quintessential of how totally dumbed-down human society has become.
Sleepwalk to your death, you idiots.
“NOT quite right. There are many Ukrainian Nationalist (in good term of this word just like Scottish Nationalists) fighting regular Russian army. NOT sure if after Putin’s revelations today about planned undercover operation to return Crimea to Russia there is anyone who would believe that there are no regular Russian army fighting in Donbass today?”
You see that’s the problem with nationalism, everybody thinks their sort of nationalism is good and everybody else’s form of nationalism is bad and they all keep on trying to kill each other.
Technicolour
You might have added that not everyone (by a long shot!) agrees with Mr Goss’s characterisation of the Kiev govt as “fascist”, nor with his characterisation of the “Azov army” as “Nazi, nor with the use Mr Goss makes of the word “genocide”.
Mr Goss is the sort of person who is liberal in his use of the word “genocide” against govts he disapproves of (the US, Ukraine, etc…) but who never uses it against govts whose actions he approves of (the former Soviet Union, Russia, China…).
That is one of the many reasons why he has lost credibility on this blog and why most of those who would once have counted as his natural supporters have fallen away.
Crimea. Way home. Film by Andrei Kondrashov (2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g98qms8uuTg
“..we have to start work to bring Crimea back into Russia.”
Bravo!
Lets assume that England send undercover troops to Ireland to crush Irish Independence and put end to Ireland as independent nation? Lets assume that Irish men take arms in their hands and quite rightfully defend what they believe is their right. How would MWF treat this? Would they call Irish men fascists? Would they call English troops saviours and protectors or some Irish people’s rights? Would they eat their own hat?
Thanks Macky for the F. William Engdahl article which not only should Resident Dissident read for his own education but which particularly Uzbek in the UK is in dire need of reading.
Fred. “As far as I’m concerned they are Ukrainian Nationalists fighting Russian Nationalists and the world would be a better place without either of them.”
But that is not true. They are Ukrainian fascists (they are not like Welsh nationalists). They have declared war on other Ukrainians who want to ally with Russia, who held a peaceful referendum to do so. But a fascist coup government funded by the USA and UK (among others) replaced the legitimate government (one voted in by all the people in Ukraine) and declared war on those who do not wish to be part of a fascist state (however close to the European dream that might be). You have to stop calling the residents of Donbas Russians. They speak Russian. They are of Russian extraction. But they are Ukrainians. And they have suffered a genocide (unreported in our media because the genocide in Palestine was going on at the same time). That genocide was, in my opinion, deliberately covered up by the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
Resident Dissident. After all your accusations. Where are you?
It really doesn’t matter. I’m pretty sure no-one here wants Russia to bomb NATO, or NATO to bomb Russia, for any reason.
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How to help people in Ukraine is another issue. I don’t feel I can.
RobG
“Habba, how you can go into obscure points whilst we are all facing nuclear annihilation is totally breathtaking.”
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Good point, Rob.
I suppose the answer is that I can’t do much about nuclear annihilation but I can do a good deal to hold you to account for the nonsense you post on here! 🙂
So what’s the answer to my question – is the Inquiry meant to cover events only up to 1970 or only after 1970?
Mark Golding
Not sure how old are you but would have you said the same about Sudetland back in 1938?
“Such personalities (sociopaths) bubble to the top, because of the way our societies are structured (ie, money is God).”
It certainly doesn’t hurt to have psychometric testing, to ensure you pick the right management material.
I mean, you’re not exactly going to pick the emotional types over the unemotional ones, when there’s a necessity for ruthlessness.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/brian-basham-beware-corporate-psychopaths–they-are-still-occupying-positions-of-power-6282502.html
RobG
By the way, I have noticed that you tend to get apocalyptic late in the evening.
Are you a drinker?
“RobG
By the way, I have noticed that you tend to get apocalyptic late in the evening.
Are you a drinker?”
Are you offering to buy, Habby? Count me in.
“But that is not true.”
I use the dictionary definition of the word “true”.
“being in accordance with the actual state or conditions; conforming to reality or fact; not false:”
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/true