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  • Phil

    John Goss
    “Suits me. I wonder who will be the first to break the peace?”

    Well congratulations, it seems you are the first. Was it intentional, which would be funny, or do you not even notice the baiting in your own comments by now?

  • Clark

    I’ve encountered http being edited by this blog’s software to https. I think the certificates of the remote sites are valid, because if you browse to the content through the remote website, no certificate warning is displayed. It seems to happen when you link to content on a subdomain of a main site.

    A domain name is like this:

    google.com

    A subdomain has some additional text and a dot before the domain name:

    maps.google.com

    Plusnet users are allocated a subdomain at Plusnet’s plus.com domain:

    http://www.killick1.plus.com

  • Phil

    Clark

    Fred’s explanation seems to make sense: the remote site set up to discourage picture leeching.

  • Phil

    No hang on. I am talking rubbish. The pic leeching thing does not explain the a link rewrite here.

  • Peacewisher

    Why haven’t the Ukrainians overthrown their incredibly incompetent illegally-swept-to-power government yet? They’ve been duped. Poroshenko continuing to duped them. Currency in freefall. Many thousands of young mem killed or wounded in war or fled the country to avoid the draft. Productivity way down on a year ago. IMF loan with the usual conditions. Now Europe saying they won’t be allowed into the club for 20 years.

    If you were a Ukrainian wouldn’t you feel a bit miffed?

    Unless you were Donbass… who are probably partying away tonight.

    Who’d have thought it a year ago…

  • Resident Dissident

    Mr Goss

    ““Where do you live mentally, John?”

    Well it’s not Toytown. :)”
    _______________

    Let me hazard a guess – somewhat to the east of Toytown? 🙂

    ————————–

    I’d try Detsky Mir just across from the Lubyanka!

  • Resident Dissident

    “So good to know I’d be a fascist if I objected to the French trying to capture Stansted.”

    Anyone who objects to Mr Goss’s point of view is a fascist by his definition – similarly it is of course ok to breach ceasefire agreements if you invent an unwritten unilateral side agreement giving yourself an exemption (thanks for that piece of creativity Macky).
    One wonders what logic defying unrebuttable presumption Mr Goss will launch on us next.

    Perhaps he will explain how Mr Putin’s treatment of Litvineko and Magnitsky is consistent with the gentleman status he accords his hero.

    BTW on the subject of calling everyone being a Nazi I recently came across the following ditty to tune of Darling Clementine – perhaps we could add a few verses for the current KGB sycophants

    In old Moscow, in the Kremlin,
    In the fall of thirty nine.
    Sat a Russian and a Prussian
    Writing out the party line.

    Chorus:
    Oh my darling, Oh my darling,
    Oh my darling party line.
    Oh, I never will desert you
    Cause I love this life of mine.
    Leon Trotsky was a Nazi,
    Oh, we knew it for a fact.
    Pravda said it, we all read it
    Before the Stalin-Hitler Pact.

    Once a Nazi would be shot, see.
    That was then the party line.
    Now a Nazi’s hotsy-totsy,
    Trotsky’s laying British mines.

    Now the Nazis, without Trotsky,
    [ALTERNATE: Now the Nazis and Der Fuehrer]
    Stand within the party line.
    All the Russians love the Prussians
    Volga boatmen sail the Rhine.

  • RobG

    Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)
    17 Feb, 2015 – 9:43 pm:
    “Could you help me by pointing to the provisions of the Act which will make peaceful protests and demonstrations illegal (as you claimed at 19h21 earlier this evening)? A simple summary or even reference to the relevant sections and claises of the Act would be acceptable.”
    ___________________________________

    Here’s some of the relevent sections of the ‘Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014’, starting with Section 53; and please note, with regard to sub-section c, what does “a person designated by the relevant local authority” mean?

    53. Authorised persons (1) A community protection notice or a fixed penalty notice may be issued by—
    (a) a constable;
    (b) the relevant local authority (see subsections (2) and (3));
    (c) a person designated by the relevant local authority for the purposes of this section.
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/section/53/enacted

    Likewise with Section 59: what does “have had a detrimental effect on the quality of life” actually mean?

    59. Power to make orders (1) A local authority may make a public spaces protection order if satisfied on reasonable grounds that two conditions are met.
    (2) The first condition is that—
    (a) activities carried on in a public place within the authority’s area have had a detrimental effect on the quality of life of those in the locality, or
    (b) it is likely that activities will be carried on in a public place within that area and that they will have such an effect.
    (3) The second condition is that the effect, or likely effect, of the activities—
    (a) is, or is likely to be, of a persistent or continuing nature,
    (b) is, or is likely to be, such as to make the activities unreasonable, and
    (c) justifies the restrictions imposed by the notice.
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/section/59/enacted

    The above two sections effectively ban peaceful demonstration in the UK; and there’s other sections of this Act that I don’t have the time/energy to go into right now.

    For those not used to all this governmental legalise, I should add that although politicians are, in the main, very, very stupid people they have teams of legal experts to help them draft legislation. Good law has to be crystal clear in its intent. The problem with many recent laws is that they are so ambiguous and open to interpretation.

    This is a classic sign of a police state.

  • Resident Dissident

    Peacewisher

    You dolt – Trotsky was accused of being a Nazi by you know who. The Russians who invaded Czechoslovakia and Hungary were told they were putting down a fascist uprising, Walesa was accused of being a sympathiser of the “fascist” Pilsudski. There is a certain history to the KGB calling its opponents Nazis whatever their actual politics.

    Since you are carrying something of a flame for Trotsky perhaps you should look up what Mr Goss’s Rothchild’s links say about him – not very nice, and I’m sure the comrades at Left Unity will also be interested.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “Still fishing.”
    _____________

    Not at all, just establishing that the poster who continually sneers at those who have made successful careers for themselves and are comfortably off is herself comfortably off and very far from being a member of the poor and dispossesed.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Resident Dissident

    “There is a certain history to the KGB calling its opponents Nazis whatever their actual politics.”
    ____________

    Spot on, RD. You’ll also know that the Commies even called genuine socialists “social-fascists” in the 1930s (and beyond).

    John Goss please take note when next tempted to throw “fascist” about.

  • Resident Dissident

    “I guess trolling about links, and now RD breaking into song, are all ways for Russophobes to deal with a bad news day for their favourite Junta !”

    I am not a Russophobe – I married a Russian, my children have Russian nationality, I worked there and I even paid more Russian taxes than Putin did over the last 10 years. Perhaps you might wish to consider just exactly how Putin came to power?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I did read your website last night, but I was more interested in what all you people had to write, and some of you are so great..and some of you try so hard…well battling against this evil in your own little ways..trying to work out what is going on and who are the really evil guys and Clark..Hey You are Free Now..from the awesomely responsible job of trying to maintain balance..between all the different point of views..I do undertand..

    So I was just reading…

    I wanted to write the latest news about what was actually happening in The Ukraine but I didn’t want to interrupt all you lovely people in your innocence.

    God Bless,

    Tony

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “I’d try Detsky Mir just across from the Lubyanka!”
    _____________-

    Mr Goss, with his wooden head, would fit in well with the wooden toys there!

  • Resident Dissident

    Spot on, RD. You’ll also know that the Commies even called genuine socialists “social-fascists” in the 1930s (and beyond).

    And boy did they hate good socialists like George Orwell when he called their game – and yet they seem to have no problem in supporting Baathists such as Assad and Saddam whose ideology bears many similarities to fascism and whose founders were not a little supportive of the Nazis.

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