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  • John Goss

    “Macky – interesting how you will never even criticise any totalitarian who opposes the West – I am more than happy to criticise those who support the West yet abuse human rights are you so idiotic to need a list?”

    I don’t recall you opposing these abusers of human rights. On the contrary.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b43_1400340895

    Your wife’s grandfather would be ashamed of you supporting the Nazis when he fought against them. In 1941 and 1942 there was fighting for control of Debaltsevo from the German Nazis. You can see how the name is spelt on the railway station in this picture. I mention this because I noticed yesterday, or the day before, you spelt it the same way as the Kiev Comic with an ‘e’ on the end instead of an ‘o’. You can be proud of these Russians. Perhaps your wife’s grandfather was among the liberators.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b43_1400340895

  • Tony_0pmoc

    This probably goes against Craig Murray’s Pro EU Policy..but well The Moderator is Free To Delete It if He Doesn’t Like It..(If I can even post it)

    Go Greece. My Wife and Our Family Are With You…

    Our Kids Grew Up In The Greek Islands In The Summer and My Wife and I made Our Babies in Greece Before They Were Born…

    Some people don’t understand How The Real World Works..We are From Lancashire in England..Grew Up With Next to Nowt..Worked Hard and went on holiday to Greece..We Love You.

    Still Will Even THIS YEAR (Promise) if You Get These EU Parasites Off Your Back and Go To Back To How The Way You Were When You still had Your Own Drachma..I know you guys have been fcked over and I know how Goldc@nt Sucks did it..but the Giant Squid is Now Disapearring Up His Own Black Hole..So Just Do It…

    Show Us All The Way..I Know It Takes Courage..But You Guys Will Be O.K. Cos Us British Are Going On Holiday With You When We Come Back Home To Greece..

    You Guys Wrote The Story of Democracy. It Ain’t Going Away..But We All Have To Fight For It To Survive.

    Thank You

    Tony & Wife & Children (ENGLAND, UK)

  • Clark

    John Goss, I have not seen Resident Dissident praising or approving of the Ukrainian forces; please look back through old comments and check.

    I have seen RD opposing pro-Russian forces, which he takes to be Russian.

    John Goss, can you see that there is a difference between supporting one side and opposing its opposite?

    I think the pair of you have been disappointingly ineffective, mutually wasting each other’s time and energy. You both have some understanding of the local languages. You should be seeking out obscure blogs, Facebook and Twitter accounts etc, and attempting between you to collate such information into a more coherent picture. You would both thereby help to overcome the propaganda battle that has come to characterise this conflict. Cooperating, you could become part of the solution. In opposition, you contribute to the problem.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Clark, I know you mean well, but if you Really Have Freed yourself from the most awful job of being chief piggy in the middle of Craig Murray’s fighting friends…then take a break..stop going to all these demos for a bit and have a think about what your real objectives in life are..

    I know you will not accept any Real Research on ANYTHING in The World..until you have examined it in detail yourself..and how on earth can you possibly do that with such responsibilty as being Craig Murray’s moderator…Come on there are so many powerful People with such strong views..surely it is almost self moderating.

    Tony

  • Clark

    John Goss, I was off to bed but I restarted the computer to tell you this:

    I think it’s utterly reprehensible of you to criticise Resident Dissident via his family members in the way that you have, tonight and on other occasions. We place considerable trust in other commenters when we reveal personal or family information. I’m most disappointed to see you behaving so disrespectfully and it brings shame onto your side of the argument. Please desist.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Clark,

    I don’t do emails…well except under my own name.

    You probably don’t know what it is like when you are on call all the time 24×7, and you just have to respond to every email, bleep, page text and phone call..

    and then You Resign and are Free of It…

    Upton Blues Festival

    Completely Free…except for Camping..which is not Compulsory

    £30 The Weekend (at the official campsite) sleep in your car for free if you want. The music is not in the campsite. Its in the town a short walk away over the river.

    The Very Best Blues and Rock Bands in Upton-On-Severn FREE (which has got to be One Of The Most Beautiful Places in The UK…)

    Its held in the little town (right in the Square..and all the Pubs)

    Its Big…Well The Some Of The Best Young and Old Bands in The World.

    http://uptonbluesfestival.org.uk/

    You will easily spot me.

    Tony

  • Clark

    Tony_0pmoc I just want to come to a gig and have a dance!

    I haven’t been to a demonstration in ages, though I was in George Square in Glasgow the day before the Independence vote. What a buzz on that day! I wouldn’t have missed that for anything.

    The Friday and weekend after was miserable though. No one seemed to want to go out after the No result was announced and the whole city seemed lifeless and dispirited.

    But the Independence campaign bounced right back up again the following week. People were disappointed but they weren’t going to let that stop them. They’ll get away from the Westminster Warmongers yet!

  • Clark

    Tony, our comments crossed. I’ll try to put a contact form on my web-space, or I’ll put a ‘phone/text number up for a little while.

    But not now. I must shut down this machine and go sleep. Thanks for the link, and goodnight.

  • Clark

    Tony, July! That’s AGES! Just post up when there’s something lively in Islington or wherever it is you go. I can get to London on the train.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Peacewisher, Great Animation. Thank You..Mustn’t Use Up Any More White Space..Or I will be In Trouble and Banned Again.

  • Mary

    Following the rout of the Poreschenko brigades, today the agenda for Putin demonization is that the Baltic states are under threat by him.

    Viz

    ZBC – UK minister sees Russia Baltic threat
    There is a “real and present danger” of Russia trying to destabilise Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, the UK defence secretary says.

    Times – President Putin poses a “real and present danger” to the Baltic states and Nato is getting ready to respond to any aggression, the defence secretary has warned.

    Michael Fallon said that the Russian leader was as much of a threat to Europe as Islamic State.

    Using some of the toughest language of any senior British minister towards Russia since the crisis over Ukraine erupted a year ago, Mr Fallon added that Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia could be in the firing line.

    Telegraph – Putin will target the Baltic next, Defence Secretary warns
    Defence Secretary warns Nato resolve could be tested as Ukraine ceasefire unravels

    ~~

    The repellent Aaronovitch wants a stop to defence cuts. Back to the late 1930s. War, war.

    With bad guys about, you can’t ignore defence
    David Aaronovitch
    February 19 2015

    An election looms, yet no one mentions the military. The threats to Britain and Nato, however, will not go away

    This is not another column about Vladimir Putin, but it starts with him. A few days ago Russia and its separatist allies agreed a ceasefire in Eastern Ukraine which Angela Merkel, among others, hoped (but did not expect) might lead to the beginning of the end of hostilities there. Within days it was evident that the Russian side had no intention of upholding the ceasefire, as its forces surrounded and then reduced the strategic town of Debaltseve…..paywall

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4358397.ece

  • Mary

    February 17, 2015
    An Open Air Prison
    Israel’s Decimation of Gaza
    by NORMAN POLLACK

    Operation Protective Edge is the killing machine of the 2010s, to Israel’s everlasting shame. That is not how Israel perceives it, nor, increasingly, world, and especially American, Jewry. I write as a proud Jew, seeking to rid Judaism of the incubus of a hubristic-militaristic Israel that needn’t have taken the form it did, as emulator of Nazi-style practices against a resident population on land which could have been the refuge of both. The Nakba was inexcusable, degrading, cruel, immoral, the very antithesis of what Torah proclaims about care for the oppressed and love of the stranger. Israelis, by their actions, have forfeited their claim even to be considered Jewish, so vile their treatment of those they have already reduced to a parlous state. Gaza today is Dresden, rubble as far as the eye can see; only Hiroshima and Nagasaki look worse. Children playing amid ruins, families in tents and caravans, building materials intercepted by sea and turned back, infrastructure, UN schools, hospitals demolished—an Israeli society, passive onlookers, casual, uninterested, deaf to the cries of suffering and privation. Judaism mocked at the highest levels.

    My dad, yes, from Pinsk, coming to America after World War One, who worked hard all his life, gave whatever he could in support of Jewish causes, a founding member of Rodeph Shalom in Bridgeport before moving to Miami Beach, used to say that bad news came in threes.

    /..

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/17/israels-decimation-of-gaza/

  • YouKnowMyName

    Mary, the BBC propaganda is horrific this morning, Yes, Putin probably has plans to invade the Baltic states AFTER they’ve been overthrown by a non-democratic color revolution that will kill thousands of Baltic citizens…

    However, as the Clinton presidency was magically able to place influential Baltic presidents in these republics, one of whom is still in place, allegedly , I can’t see any ‘provocation to invade’ working. Didn’t the US already send hundreds of tanks to Estonia late in 2014, boosted the joint NATO airbase this year….

    Why would Putin want to invade Estonia? All the Estonians that I know have LEFT!

    It’s obvious ZBC are idiots, “don’t study game theory. Don’t interview anyone who is following the realpolitik”.

    Meanwhile, the reality is that of the 8000 trapped UA army, around 3K were killed, 5K routed, allowed to escape without their weapons, from the siege town. Is BBC spouting irrelevant ‘fear, uncertainty & doubt’ just so that the dramatic loss of life in such a small, irrelevant place, isn’t connected to the USA color revolution -without which their isn’t a need for a Russian counter-invasion, allegedly.

  • Mary

    So that was what BLiar’s rare visit to Gaza was all about. He was shilling for Israel.

    Hamas Rebuffs Blair’s Allegations Quartet Links Rebuilding Gaza With Ceding Palestinian Rights

    February 18, 2015 “ICH” – “MEM” – Senior member of Hamas’ political bureau Mousa Abu-Marzkouk yesterday revealed that Quartet peace envoy Tony Blair is trying to blackmail Hamas in return for reconstructing the Gaza Strip.

    On his Facebook page, Abu-Marzouk revealed five conditions put by the Quartet that Hamas has to meet in order to make way for the reconstruction of what the Israeli occupation destroyed during last summer’s 51-day war in Gaza.

    Abu-Marzouk said: “Once again, and in the name of the international community, Tony Blair is exploiting the tragedy made by the Israeli occupation that includes the destruction of homes and making people homeless.”

    Expressing deep concern about the devastated people in Gaza, Abu-Marzouk said: “Destroyed homes of Palestinians in Gaza became shrines to Blair and his likes. Blair says that there is no reconstruction unless these five conditions are fulfilled, and Hamas has to agree to:

    Accept the Palestinian reconciliation.
    Accept the political programme based on a Palestinian state on 1967 borders.
    Reiterate that Hamas is a Palestinian faction with only Palestinian goals and it is not part of any Islamist movement with regional goals.
    Adopt the two-state solution as a final, not temporary, solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
    Send an assurance message to Egypt that Gaza is not a terror base for Sinai terrorists and hold talks with the Egyptian government to stop terrorism in Sinai.”

    “These are the conditions for Hamas to be accepted by the international community as well as the Quartet’s conditions for rebuilding Gaza and improving living standards,” Abu-Marzouk said.

    /..
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41029.htm

  • Dreoilin

    “International community” my eye.
    What it means is ‘the United States and those who agree with them’.

  • Macky

    Resident Dissident; “Macky – interesting how you will never even criticise any totalitarian who opposes the West – I am more than happy to criticise those who support the West yet abuse human rights are you so idiotic to need a list?”

    My priority is not about indulging in intellectual posturing, in the luxury of the examining of the political & historical merits of all sides so as to appear fair & balanced; my priority for which I am very “unfair” about, is instead always the real mass murders of innocents in the real present of now, being carried or enabled by hypocrites who claim to be acting for the victims best interest; note the double emphasis of the word “real”, in contrast to the imaginary Benghazi massacre, or the fake Assad gas attack or mythical Iraqi WMDs, etc.

    Save your weasel dissembling & excusing for real crimes being committed right now for dupes like Clark, etc.

    If you have a problem with what I just wrote, here’s an article that I recommend that you make time for to read slowly before attempting to reply back to me;

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-americas-lebensraum-is-washington-preparing-to-wage-war-on-russia/5431970

  • Macky

    @Clark, re your comments to John Goss; perhaps you keep forgetting, but you are not a moderator here anymore; further I think it’s utterly reprehensible of you to support Resident Dissident in his dispute with John. Please desist.

  • Dreoilin

    “further I think it’s utterly reprehensible of you to support Resident Dissident in his dispute with John. Please desist.”

    The fact that Clark is not a moderator here is the very reason he can now express himself whatever way he likes. You’re missing the point. He can support Resident Dissident all day if he wants to. However, since YOU are not a moderator, you are not entitled to tell other people to “desist” from anything.

  • Macky

    Dreoilin; “However, since YOU are not a moderator, you are not entitled to tell other people to “desist” from anything.”

    Well you fail the satire test, as that was exactly my point ! 😀

  • Clark

    Macky, I am not supporting Resident Dissident with whom I disagree over various matters; I am opposing the use of underhand personal attacks.

  • Macky

    Clark; “I am opposing the use of underhand personal attacks”

    Excuse me whilst I have a good belly laugh ! I’m too considerate to link to your very many examples of the same !

    You have made your postion quite clear on the Ukraine, ie the RD position, it’s understandable that the Kiev Junta is committing mass murder, as it’s all really the Russians historical fault.

  • Dreoilin

    I’ve seen you try that before, Macky. You post something stupid and when you’re called on it, you claim it was “satire”.

    Yeah, right. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

  • Clark

    Macky, the gain on your Target Acquisition Radar seems to be set about 250% too high, and your Non-combatant, Neutral and Peace-keeper capacitors all seem to be shorted into your main Enemy Accumulator. Nevermind can help with technical terms.

  • Dreoilin

    “Excuse me whilst I have a good belly laugh ! I’m too considerate to link to your very many examples of the same !”

    Satire?

    Don’t lie about “belly laughs” either. Fedup used to do that all the time and it was as fake as bejasus.

  • Macky

    Dreoilin; “I’ve seen you try that before, Macky. You post something stupid and when you’re called on it, you claim it was “satire”.”

    Stop digging Dreoilin, you really believe that my mimicking of Clark’s comment word for word was a complete coincidence ?!!

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