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  • Mary

    el Sisi has commiserated with the Coptic church leaders. What a hypocrite. Goodness knows how many Egyptian lives he has cut short in his short dictatorial rule.

    ‘Under Sisi’s leadership, the military government has massacred thousands of demonstrators who took to the streets in protest against the coup. It has also jailed tens of thousands of other Morsi supporters, banned demonstrations, and discouraged dissent by locking up journalists who oppose the military take-over.

    If you’ve forgotten how closely Sisi cleaves to the model of the brutal authoritarian tyrant that Western governments and media profess to abominate, think back to last summer. Here are New York Times reporters Kareem Fahim and Mayy el Sheik describing one Sisi-led massacre:

    The Egyptian authorities unleashed a ferocious attack on Islamist protesters early Saturday, killing at least 72 people in the second mass killing of demonstrators in three weeks and the deadliest attack by the security services since Egypt’s uprising in early 2011.

    The tactics — many were killed with gunshot wounds to the head or the chest — suggested that Egypt’s security services felt no need to show any restraint.

    In the attack on Saturday, civilians joined riot police officers in firing live ammunition at the protesters as they marched toward a bridge over the Nile. By early morning, the numbers of wounded people had overwhelmed doctors at a nearby field hospital. [3]

    Carried out by Muamar Gadaffi, a brutal crackdown on this scale would have been enough to raise alarms of an impending genocide and calls for humanitarian intervention. When it happens in Egypt, it’s mentioned in the back pages of some (though not all or even most) newspapers and forgotten the next day.’
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/egypts-illegitimate-president-abdel-fattah-el-sisi/5384112

    Have you noticed that Monsieur Hollande features in all these reports and we can read his every word? Sarkozy who collaborated with Cameron in the assault on Libya is silent.
    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/123156/Egypt/Politics-/World-leaders-condemn-IS-killing-of-Egyptian-Copts.aspx

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “Thanks for that heads up and correction Macky.”
    __________________

    Thank you as well, Habbabkuk.

    Don’t mention it, Mary.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “el Sisi has commiserated with the Coptic church leaders. What a hypocrite. Goodness knows how many Egyptian lives he has cut short in his short dictatorial rule.”
    ________________

    Never mind about him, Mary. The question for us is : do YOU commiserate with the families of those who lost their loved ones and/or the Coptic church leaders?

    A word of sympathy from you would not come amiss.

  • Jemand

    Dreoilin – “Not banned as such, Jemand, but we were asked to confine it to a special 9/11 thread that was set up for it.”

    Yes, I recall that a special quarantine area was set aside to divert discussion of that subject away from less insane and nonsensical commentary on the latest topics. I expect that, like a Petri dish full of bacteria, the 9/11 thread became dominated by the most aggressive and resilient strain that killed off rival strains.

  • Republicofscotland

    While it is funny, very funny, there is a very serious side to these ‘false flags’ as they have been called. It makes you wonder if nearly any of the political news is true. Tonight there is a death in Copenhagen. Another Jihadist murder (apparently).
    ……………………..

    Mr Goss indeed, their appears to be concerted attempt to demoise Muslims, across the world, under the guise, of terrorism, verses the free world.

    The Danish incident, may just be more of the same, if you recall, Obama and the Danish PM hit it off at Mandela’s funeral, taking selfies and cavorting, birds of a feather and all springs to mind.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Stupidest post of the day (no need to wait until close of play!):

    “While it is funny, very funny, there is a very serious side to these ‘false flags’ as they have been called. It makes you wonder if nearly any (SOC – “nearly any” ) of the political news is true. Tonight there is a death in Copenhagen. Another Jihadist murder (apparently).
    ……………………..

    Mr Goss indeed, their ( SIC ) appears to be ( SIC )concerted attempt to demoise ( SIC )Muslims, across the world, under the guise, of terrorism, verses ( SIC )the free world.

    The Danish incident, may just be more of the same, if you recall, Obama and the Danish PM hit it off at Mandela’s funeral, taking selfies and cavorting, birds of a feather and all springs to mind.” (several SICs for punctuation omitted)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Everything’s a false flag and Republicofscotland’s a hologramme bouncing off the walls of this blog.

  • Mary

    Occupants of red and green benches are off for the week. They needed a break as they work so hard.

    Hard working young royals also needed a break and are off skiing in Switzerland.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/558190/Princess-Beatrice-holiday-Verbier-skiing

    Kate makes a speech and the newspaper reviewers on Sky News were really impressed that she could speak so fluently. Wow.
    http://news.sky.com/story/1428130/kate-pledges-support-for-youth-mental-health

    She should have been asking why the ConDems have little or no provision for beds for children with mental health illness. Viz the teenager kept in a police cell in Devon for two nights recently.

  • Republicofscotland

    “Everything’s a false flag and Republicofscotland’s a hologramme bouncing off the walls of this blog.”
    —————————–

    A predictable riposte from the blogs resident establishment mouthpiece.

  • Republicofscotland

    Alisdair Gray pens, an interesting article in the National today, he reminds us that all local authorities in the United Queendom, hold investments, in worlds largest weapons companies.

    Its an old old article about authorities and weapons manufacturers, by Richard Norton-Taylor, but to me, it seem more relevant now than ever, due to the on going wars, around the world today, and the fact our councils profit from the arms sales.

    ………………………..

    An excerpt.

    Almost all local authorities in Britain hold investments in the world’s largest weapons companies, according to figures released under the Freedom of Information Act.

    The figures show that they invest £723m in 15 of the largest international arms companies. This is more than double what local authorities spend on promoting local enterprise and new businesses across Britain, says the Campaign Against the Arms Trade, Caat, which conducted the FoI exercise. It found that 67 of Britain’s 99 council pension funds invest nearly £244m in BAE Systems, the UK’s largest arms company.

    One in three council pension funds help to finance the manufacture of nuclear weapons through investments in Lockheed Martin, the world’s largest arms company, according to Caat. It says they are investing £20m in Lockheed, which manufactures Trident nuclear missiles for the US and Britain and is a contractor at the Aldermaston Atomic Weapons Establishment, which produces and maintains the UK’s nuclear warheads.

    Of the 88 council funds which provided information, all but two invest in arms manufacture. Three in five councils invest in companies manufacturing cluster bombs or their components. General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon all produce cluster munitions or their components, according to Human Rights Watch.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/may/08/uk.localgovernment

  • Dreoilin

    Oops! Separatists report NATO troops trapped in Debaltsevo, Ukrainian military admits no Russian invasion occurred

    “This morning NAF scouts spotted NATO tanks inside the encirclement (Cauldron) at Debaltseve. According to their information the possibility is strong that up to 25% of the trapped army may be NATO.”

    http://www.sott.net/article/292664-Oops-Separatists-report-NATO-troops-trapped-in-Debaltsevo-Ukrainian-military-admits-no-Russian-invasion-occurred

  • Republicofscotland

    Had to laugh at Ed Balls and his, attack on hedge cutters, being paid in cash, its not about hedge cutters Mr balls, it about hedge funds.

    The shadow chancer, wants you to clamp down on cash in hand payments, whilst Westminster turns a blind eye, to the likes of Google, Amazon, and many other globalist firms, tax dodging antics.

  • Dreoilin

    “I expect that, like a Petri dish full of bacteria, the 9/11 thread became dominated by the most aggressive and resilient strain that killed off rival strains.” — Jemand

    I used to read there almost every day. There was a guy called Tom who claimed to be American and an engineer – very dismissive and arrogant. IIRC he claimed at one point that he wouldn’t reply to anyone who wasn’t an engineer themselves.

    I don’t know if he stayed for long, or left before the thread became defunct!

  • Republicofscotland

    Its interesting to note that David Cameron receives and annual salary of £142.000 plus expenses from the taxpayer,yet, the PM refuses point blank, to publish tax returns, on his secretive private income.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Republicofscotland

    ““Everything’s a false flag and Republicofscotland’s a hologramme bouncing off the walls of this blog.”
    —————————–

    A predictable riposte from the blogs resident establishment mouthpiece.”
    _________________

    Well, what did you expect when you pop with with another false flag accusation – this time about the killings in Copenhagen?

    I was just wondering what characteristics any such killing would need to display for you NOT to call it a false flag.

    And that led me, rather naturally, on to the thought that perhaps you too are a false flag.

    I mean, why not?

    PS – when did you start posting on here inder your present handle?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Republicofscotland

    “Its interesting to note that David Cameron receives and annual salary of £142.000 plus expenses from the taxpayer,yet, the PM refuses point blank, to publish tax returns, on his secretive private income.”
    _________________

    I’m not sure that is very interesting, actually, but interests vary, I suppose.

    Anyway : I think that everyone’s tax returns should be online and available to everyone else – as it the case in Sweden, I understand. (This would, by the way, include yours).

    Would you be in favour of that in the UK, RoS?

    I suppose the answer would be “yes” but I just thought I’d get you to confirm that.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Republicofscotland

    “Had to laugh at Ed Balls and his, attack on hedge cutters, being paid in cash, its not about hedge cutters Mr balls, it about hedge funds.”
    ________________

    Most normal people would probably say it’s about both, RoS.

    Apparently the UK black economy is worth about GBP 26 billion a year and I’m sure that figure includes both HSBC Geneva clients and numerous hedge-cutters and like artisans.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Republicofscotland

    “Alisdair Gray pens, an interesting article in the National today, he reminds us that all local authorities in the United Queendom, hold investments, in worlds largest weapons companies.”
    ________________

    What conclusions would you draw from this and, more importantly, what course of action would you recommend to the councils concerned, their electors and govt as a whole, Droopy Chops?

    No point just whinging, be practical and pro-active!

  • Mary

    Macky

    A comment from Medialens on BLiar’s visit to Gaza.

    Locals secure blood banks as Count Dracula enters Gaza
    Posted by Morrissey on February 16, 2015, 5:38 pm

    Norman Finkelstein comments:
    Blair is a paid agent of the Egyptian dictatorship. In order to rehabilitate Sisi’s murder and torture regime, he recommends that Egypt “should lead the negotiation about the long term future of Gaza including around issues such as the airport and seaport as was envisaged by the agreement to end the recent conflict.”

    http://normanfinkelstein.com/2015/02/16/gazans-secure-blood-banks-as-count-dracula-enters-gaza/

    ~~~
    and in an e-mail received

    ‘Blair’s call for Gaza action suggests that he is now – belatedly –
    trying to mould his reputation as “Middle East envoy”.

    WHAT did he ever do/say when, as Prime Minister of Britain,
    he COULD have made a difference to the lives of the people of
    Gaza? And since? Virtually nothing!

    Go back to making money Blair – the people of Gaza don’t need
    you now.

    ~~~

    ‘Little of the $5.4 billion pledged for Gaza’s reconstruction at a Cairo conference of international donors last October has reached the territory, and thousands of Palestinians have been sheltering in tents near destroyed homes.

    Thousands more have been living in damaged buildings, using plastic sheeting to keep out rain. Some 20,000 displaced persons are still being housed in UN-run schools.’

    Blair, in Gaza, says better Palestinian living standards vital for peace
    ‘If we leave Gaza in the state it is in, you have another eruption in violence and then we are back into a further catastrophe,’ warns Blair.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.642671

    As if he gives a fig.

  • glenn

    Dreoilin : “I used to read there almost every day. There was a guy called Tom who claimed to be American and an engineer – very dismissive and arrogant. IIRC he claimed at one point that he wouldn’t reply to anyone who wasn’t an engineer themselves.

    That guy was brought over by Angry Soba, as I recall. His method was condescension and appeals to authority (his own), but refused to identify himself in any way. That left his authority a bit open to question. Tom spent time providing some gosh-I-bet-you-never-knew-this type lessons in physics, which were not relevant and not unknown anyway, but gave him the chance to waffle and condescend some more.

    Anyway, he appeared to leave it with nothing proven from his end, except to make it clear he regarded himself as a universal expert, kept getting confused about who he was talking to, and that even such self appointed experts are unable to explain how two buildings spontaneously collapsed into their own footprints following random damage plus some relatively minor fires, and how a third building collapsed (again, into its own footprint) without having been hit at all.

  • Anon

    “I used to read there almost every day. There was a guy called Tom who claimed to be American and an engineer – very dismissive and arrogant. ”

    Yes, he wiped the floor with you. Mainly because he actually knew what he was talking about, as opposed to the “it must have been a controlled demolition because, you know, the West is all bad and the Muslim lovely & peaceful like, and it was always the west wot done everyfink bad, and I know because I read it on http://911illuminati_LiesExposed.com -type argument advanced by the clueless conspiracy theorists on here.

    Frankly I’m not surprised the thread died.

  • Anon

    Habbabkuk to RoS:

    “I was just wondering what characteristics any such killing would need to display for you NOT to call it a false flag.”

    An excellent question, Habbabkuk, and one to which the answer might be “anything that does not make an enemy of the evil West look bad”.

  • Republicofscotland

    As Ron Paul recently exclaimed, the war propagandists are very active and are winning over the support of many unsuspecting American citizens. So we thought the following 90 seconds of ‘pure Paul’ would provide a refreshingly different perspective as he explains, “I’m not pro-Russia, I’m not pro-Putin, I’m pro-facts.”
    “The Ukraine coup was planned by NATO and EU… The best thing we can do for Ukraine is get the foreigners out.”

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-ukraine-coup-planned-by-nato-and-eu.html

    Ron Paul openly admits that the unrest in Ukraine was planned.

    watch the video.

  • Anon

    It must be quite comforting, in a way. Any bad news you see in the media that is also bad news for you because it doesn’t fit with your preconceptions, just dismiss it as ‘false flag’. No need to answer difficult questions, revise your beliefs, acknowledge that not everything is black and white. No, you don’t even need to debate the facts because the ‘facts’ are all a hoax. Just call it a conspiracy.

    This is why they always end up on holograms, because ultimately everything real has to be deemed fake. It’s the logical conclusion of the conspiraloon mindset.

  • glenn

    You weren’t one of the lickspittles who fawned and grovelled over your hero Tom, begging him to please, pleasey-please come over and help you out, were you Anon? Because you made such a poor job in making your case (i.e. the establishment’s official position is exactly, unquestionably right and truthful to the letter), you had to go around pleading for reinforcements.

    And no, your hero Tom only managed to make an idiot of himself. A belligerent, braggart of an idiot, admittedly.

  • Republicofscotland

    Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, has urged European Jews to immigrate to Israel following the shooting dead of a Danish Jew outside a Copenhagen synagogue on Sunday.

    Netanyahu announced the government will discuss Sunday a $46 million plan to encourage Jewish migration from Belgium, France and Ukraine and said at the start of a cabinet meeting that Israel is the home of all Jews.
    ………………………..

    It looks like Bibi’s multiple “King David hotel, events around Europe are all in aid, of bolstering Israels population.

    Its appears Mossad’s motto “By way of deception, thou shalt do war” is working.

  • Republicofscotland

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/02/15/neoface-how-anonymous-are-we-to-big-brother-police-agencies/

    In July 2014 it was reported that Leicestershire Police began trialling a facial recognition system in April earlier that year.

    One of the first polices forces in Britain to do so according to Chief Inspector Chris Cockerill, “We’re very proud to be the first UK Police force to evaluate this new system.”

    The biometric system, called NeoFace, was being trialled for six months taking images of members of the public captured from video and photographs taken from CCTV, police body-worn video, digital cameras or even smartphones (according to the police’s own industry publication The Police Oracle),

    then checking the facial images with NeoFace biometric software to see if there was a match to any of the 92,000 facial images Leicestershire Police held on their Custody Image Management (CIM) System. 92,000 facial images of arrestees, some of which were not guilty of any crime.
    …………………………….

    No wonder demonstrators wear Guido masks, when this system is fully up and running in the United Queendom, innocent protesters along with criminals will be persecuted.

  • RobG

    I wonder if the likes of Anon post from the cupboard under the stairs, where they’ve built a shelter, because they are so afraid of the Muslim bogeyman that the government keeps telling them about.

    I’m sorry. I shouldn’t keep watching the Six O’clock news on BBC tv. This evening it really was comic book stuff.

    Does anyone seriously believe this rollocks?!

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