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  • RobG

    Mary, the Counter Terrorism and Security Act is another piece of totallty La La Land legislation

    I would not put these people in charge of running a car park, let alone running a country

  • Dreoilin

    “Again I am sorry for going over the top.”

    It’s ok Phil.
    I’ve always said that if you get involved in blog comments, you have to take whatever comes at you!

  • Mary

    Credit to the Mirror and their reporter Chris Hughes for this and to the British medics for their work. The Palestinian children were severely injured by an explosion from a bomb that had lain in the ruins since the Israeli slaughter last Summer.

    Inside Gaza: Volunteer British surgeons battle to save three boys blasted in never-ending war
    17 February 2015
    By Chris Hughes

    The harrowing tale of a Palestinian teenager and toddlers marks the third day of Mirrorman Chris Hughes’ dispatches from the Israel-Palestinian conflict aftermath.

    Inside Gaza: Volunteer British surgeons battle to save three boys blasted in never-ending war

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-gaza-volunteer-british-surgeons-5181840

  • Anon

    Mary pastes:

    “Israeli settler mob uproots 550 freshly-planted Palestinian olive trees”

    To begin with, the freshly planted ‘trees’ in this case are actually saplings and can be as easily removed as they were planted, especially if they have been planted in a national park.

    But that 550 figure. The source appears, as so often, to be PressTV, of the infamous “storming of the al-Aqsa mosque” monthly recurring stories. And just as with those, you find the number 550 repeating itself, most recently on 20 October, 2014. Sometimes it is 5,500 – perhaps an overly keen intern looking to impress his superiors – sometimes it is 500, but the story rarely makes it beyond PressTV and a handful of Arab news networks, presumably because there is very little foundation for the claims being made.

  • Anon

    “I suppose I just wanted to show how easy it is to be negative about other people.”

    This is stomach turning stuff, Phil. Pull yourself together, man.

  • Phil

    Ah Habbabreak

    You still fail to grasp that your constant negativity is a sign of weakness. You mistake pretension for humour. You mistake rowing for relationships. You clearly had a damaging childhood. Yes, these patterns are ingrained when young. Get beatings as a school fag did you? Nanny not love one enough?

    This place has been a major part of your life for years yet you are unable to have a non adversarial relationship. Even the few who do not despise you are only temporary partners in a bicker. You are unable to contribute anything, just sneer negatively.

    The internet is made for self important cowards like you. The way you carry on you would get a right royal pasting in my local. My guess is you are as timid as fuck face to face.

  • fred

    “She doesn’t drink! The world’s gone mad!”

    At least she’s admitted to it.

    That’s the first step on the road to recovery.

  • Resident Dissident

    Phil

    In my local you would be politely ignored for a while and then shown the door. As for the amateur psychiatry there is only one person who seems to be crying out for attention today – did the girldfriend dump you for ignoring St Valentines.

  • Clark

    Dreoilin; 7:26 pm:

    “I wasn’t sneering at Lysias. Many years ago we used to “have a cup of tea” around bedtime here. Suhayl was the one most likely to offer to make it. I suppose I’m a bit nostalgic for those days. The atmosphere was totally different then. (Admittedly, there wasn’t a whole lot of dissent here either.)”

    Dreoilin, Suhayl has commented recently:

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/01/auschwitz/comment-page-5/#comment-508894

    I miss him a lot. He’s very busy with work these days; overloaded, like many working in the NHS.

    As for dissent; there were always diverse political viewpoints, but these days many commenters seem far more offensive about it. There seems to be a lot of derision and disrespect just for the sake of it.

  • Dreoilin

    Thanks for that, Clark. I miss Suhayl too. And I didn’t know he’d gone back to doctoring.

    “There seems to be a lot of derision and disrespect just for the sake of it.”

    and then others are inclined to respond in the same vein. I’m sure i’ve done it myself. It’s a pity …

  • Anon

    “Did the girldfriend dump you for ignoring St Valentines.”

    St Valentines is a mass-consumerist attack on the worker by the capitalistic classes.

    So yes.

  • Clark

    Dreoilin, so far as I know Suhayl never left the medical profession. The first time I met him he was in London for a medical conference. The second time he told me he’d been working in hospitals all over Glasgow.

  • Dreoilin

    Oh, I thought he was writing full time.
    I suppose he’s too knackered to be calling in here, then.

  • fred

    Back in the old days before they invented the World Wide Web people on the internet used to discus things on newsgroups rather than blog comments sections or forums.

    The author of the following is lost in the mists cybertime but cybertime doesn’t change much.

    Gilbert & Sullivan Online
    [Author unknown, to the tune of The Major General’s Song]

    I am the very model of a Newsgroup personality.
    I intersperse obscenity with tedious banality.
    Addresses I have plenty of, both genuine and ghosted too,
    On all the countless newsgroups that my drivel is cross-posted to.
    Your bandwidth I will fritter with my whining and my snivelling,
    And you’re the one who pays the bill, downloading all my drivelling.
    My enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming you
    For cracking my head open after I’ve been rudely flaming you.

    I hate to lose an argument (by now I should be used to it).
    I wouldn’t know a valid point if I was introduced to it.
    My learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia,
    Designed to fan my ego, which is larger than Bolivia.
    The comments that I vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery,
    Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery.
    I say I’m frank and forthright, but that’s merely lies and vanity,
    The gibberings of one who’s at the limits of his sanity.

    If only I could get a life, as many people tell me to;
    If only Mom could find a circus freak-show she could sell me to;
    If I go off to Zanzibar to paint the local scenery;
    If I lose all my fingers in a mishap with machinery;
    If I survive to twenty, which is somewhat problematical;
    If what I post was more mature, or slightly more grammatical;
    If I could learn to spell a bit, and maybe even punctuate;
    Would I still be the loathsome and objectionable punk you hate?

    But while I have this tiresome urge to prance around and show my face,
    It simply isn’t safe for normal people here in cyberspace.
    To stick me in Old Sparky and turn on the electricity
    Would be a fitting punishment for my egocentricity.
    I always have the last word; so, with uttermost finality,
    That’s all from me, the model of a Newsgroup personality.

  • John Goss

    Yes, Mary. The Torygraph’s political section has gone even further downhill since Peter Oborne left its ranks a few days back. Inviting the Liam Fox, a traitor to the country, a liar and an abuser of office, to say a few words to foment war is just about as low as it can get (short of inviting Adam Werritty).

  • Mary

    Dearie me.

    Tycoon who cost Liam Fox his Cabinet job bankrolls bid to oust him as an MP by donating £30,000 to rival Ukip candidate
    In 2011, revealed that Liam Fox had taken friend with him on overseas trips
    Harvey Boulter disclosed Dr Fox’s relationship with Adam Werritty
    Now donated £30,000 to Ukip candidate Ian Kealey in his constituency
    Mr Boulter said he believed North Somerset ‘deserved better’ than Dr Fox
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934805/Tycoon-cost-Liam-Fox-Cabinet-job-bankrolls-bid-oust-MP-donating-30-000-rival-Ukip-candidate.html
    1 February 2015

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934805/Tycoon-cost-Liam-Fox-Cabinet-job-bankrolls-bid-oust-MP-donating-30-000-rival-Ukip-candidate.html#ixzz3SQHWvBv2
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  • Macky

    I found it ironic that a few days ago the BBC had a report on the Maidan shootings, and yesterday they reported that Poroshenko was claiming that it was Russia behind the shootings; ironic because their report was based on the confession of a Maidan demonstrator who admitted that he was handed a high velocity rifle, and spent 20 minutes firing at the Police; interesting that this report (Untold story of Maidan massacre) is now back on the BBC front page !

    I find it amazing in fact how the demonstrators were allowed to savagely attack the police with impunity, it seems that the Police had been under instructions not to strike back, but watching these clips again, you realise that if the UK or US police had come under such ferocious attacks, our Governments would not have hesistated in ordering a massive & lethal response;

    http://rt.com/news/233423-ukraine-maidan-riots-video/

  • John Goss

    Liam Fox is political dead meat but clearly the Zionists needed someone to call for war in Ukraine since things are not going well for Zionist bankers with the instigation of the BRICS bank, and an inability to get Russia involved in conflict. So they got Fox out of his coffin to stir things up. Things could get even worse for him because Yanukovich is talking about making a comeback (the properly elected leader who did not wage war on his own people).

    I should think the people in Ukraine on both sides would be happy to return to a state of peace. This would be a good thing because any money, I think it was 19 billion dollars, lent to them would not need to be paid back. The government it was lent to was not a properly elected and legitimate government. They should also ask for the gold that Yatsenyuk shipped to the US as collateral to be shipped back because it was an illegal transaction.

  • Peacewisher

    @John: Do you think the Tories new election strategy is to look/act tough against Putin… in an effort to get the wavering UKIPers back on side?

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