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  • John Goss

    Big demonstration against Maidan in Moscow Dreoilin and thanks for the photos. Some of the banners were very eyecatching and this one really caught my eye.

    Янки, уходите, и с собой Майдан возьмите!
    Yankee, go away, and take Maidan with you!

    There was another one which read “No Maidan – No War!”

  • John Goss

    “Do you think the Tories new election strategy is to look/act tough against Putin… in an effort to get the wavering UKIPers back on side?”

    Not really. I think they need to be careful. They’ve stuck Fox up there because:
    1. He is a prominent supporter of Israel and the Zionists there have got to try and perpetuate the conflict. But for the PM to do it when Israel is so despised over the genocide in Palestine is too risky. Fox has no credibility. He’s been turned into a pawn from a rook and is expendable.
    2. To see what the public response is. I don’t really think Cameron can say this because of the Merkel/Hollande initiative which excluded him but we are still part of Europe.
    3. There are a few people in the States saying the same thing but it is, I think and hope, hot air for the benefit of the sheep. After all it is the Chinese year of the Sheep. 🙂 Fox, who lost his status as a person to be listened to over the Werritty affair and Atlantic Bridge, has hardly anything to lose, and everything to gain should this be seen as a popular initiative.

    I hope he loses his seat.

  • Anon

    Mary

    I can find and show you references to these 550 olive trees from today, yesterday, 3 days ago, 5 days ago, January, December, October, and so on.

    Either the Israelis have a fixation with uprooting 550 each time, or someone is recycling old news and publishing it on your ‘daily log’, which itself is unreferenced.

    Leslie Bravery lives in New Zealand and you live in Surrey and neither of you has a clue what is going on on the ground, whatever email lists you are signed up to. However much you think you are informed about the I/P conflict, you are not. You are merely a recipient of one side’s propaganda.

    Your source describes arrests as being “taken prisoner” and house searches as “home invasions”, so the bias is evident from the start. What you can tell from that is that the writer is bent on trying to make the worst of a situation to support their side. Therefore it is important to investigate all the claims being made and in this case they have been shown to be unreliable.

  • Peacewisher

    @Anon: Yes, but that is Farage’s opinion. Doesn’t mean UKIP supporters agree with him… especially after the “hate” offensive.

  • John Goss

    Thanks Peacewisher. Since sanctions are hurting western Europe more than they are hurting Russia it seems a bit daft to impose more of them. Though these Tory goons are likely to try and keep the Atlantic alliance intact the best thing for us to do is ditch them. And ditch the dollar too.

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    Anon : “I can find and show you references to these 550 olive trees from today, yesterday, 3 days ago, 5 days ago, January, December, October, and so on.800,000”

    Israel has destroyed more than 800,000 olive trees since 1967. That averages over 320 per week for 48 years.

    I dare say you can show us references to uprooted olive trees today, yesterday, 3 days ago, 5 days ago, January, December, October, and so on, but it’s not really something you should be boasting about.

  • Mary

    You have to give the Israel shills 10/10 for persistence in their lies.

    If it’s not destroying olive trees, it’s shooting teenagers playing on a balcony in a refugee camp.

    Childhood Interrupted, Again
    30 December 2006
    ‘On Friday, December 8, six gunshots pierced the afternoon calm and six children started screaming. The cousins had been playing together with their usual gusto on the third-story veranda of their home in Aida Refugee Camp in the West Bank. A bullet tore through the slender body of one of them, a thirteen-year-old boy named Miras Al-Azzah. Several more bullets hit the stone house, and splinters of debris sliced into the bodies of the other children: Athal (10) and Rowaid (8), Miras’s younger sister and brother, and Maysan (12), Zaid (7), and Ansam (3).’
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/childhood-interrupted-again/6649

    Refugees from 25 Palestinian villages ended up in Aida Camp and in 1967 more were added. A dear friend Rich Wiles from the NE of England spent some years there where he wrote articles in tears and blood, and took photos. He is a photographic artist. His writing puts the individual and his family in sharp focus. He did a great deal with the children – some being given a free hand in photography. Some revisited the remains of the villages of their families. Rich will be coming back to the UK for a six month spell with Nireen his wife who is Palestinian and their little one.

    His contribution has been very great. His book is entitled
    Behind the Wall: Life, Love, and Struggle in Palestine.

    A long google books link = http://tiny.cc/8tagux

  • Mary

    Seeing Peacewisher’s link to Canada reminded me of the big lie known as Canada Park in Zionist Israel. A park built over the rubble of razed Palestinian villages and funded by the Canadian JNF.

    The Tale of 3 Palestinian villages
    https://avoicefrompalestine.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/the-tale-of-3-palestinian-villages/

    The late Michael Adams, a Guardian journalist, founded CAABU. He cared deeply for the Palestinians.

    ‘The British reporter Michael Adams visited Imwas in 1968, wrote: “When my companion and I came to Beit Nouba 6 months after Kenan, much had changed. Most significantly, the rubble had disappeared. It had taken the Israelis 6 months to clear it, in great secrecy; while relays of volunteers were engaged in this macabre task, the authorities closed the approach road to Latroun…. Without a guide, I should probably have driven straight through without realising that there had been villages here at all. The demolition squads had been thorough. But when we stopped the car and got out to look, there were plenty of tell-tale signs; it isn’t easy, even in 6 months, to wipe out a thousand years of history without leaving a trace. There were a few pieces of masonry, a broken tile, a twisted rod of steel from some concrete extension and – a sure sign that people had once lived here – the cactus hedges, which the Palestinians use to protect their gardens and orchards against marauders, were starting to grow back. They are very hard to eradicate.”(19)

    1970, the illegal settlement “Mevo Horon” was built on the lands of Beit Nouba. Three years later, the Jewish National Fund of Canada funded the establishment of a recreational park, the Canada Park, on the ruins of Imwas and Yalu. Zahda Abu Qtaish from Imwas remarked when she first visited the Canada Park: “I couldn’t believe it …My home was down to the ground. They had turned the village into a park. They called it Canada Park. I cried and cried.”(20) Ahmad Abu Ghoush from Imwas talked of his visit to the park: “When returning to the park I had mixed feelings. It’s very hard, standing on the ruins of where you used to live while seeing people laughing, eating and enjoying themselves.”(21)’

    ~~

    He would turn in his grave now if he heard his son Paul reporting for the BBC from Ukraine giving out the axis propaganda.

    ~~

    The TV is on in the background. Guess who Marr has on to review the papers? Alistair Campbell and CNN’s Christiane Amanpour!

  • Resident Dissident

    “Thus, it seems clear military equipment has been transferred from Russia to Ukraine, and is also being used in the Debaltseve offensive. This is in line with other findings we’ve mentioned earlier, such as the Pantsir-S1 sightings in Ukraine, a modern Russian air defence system not found in the Ukrainian military’s inventory.”

    https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2015/02/12/ukraine-conflict-vehicle-first-week/

    As for Putin’s demonstration in Moscow – I’m surprised Mr Goss and Macky were not there collecting their 300 roubles – just like the good old Soviet days Mr Goss was calling for yesterday.

  • Peacewisher

    @Mary: Canada seems to have become a cheerleader for Western interventionist policy for about 2.5 years.

    We all remember that Canada was against the Iraq war, and that US-born backpackers often used to make out they were Canadians to avoid being ostracised abroad. Looks like they’ll no longer have that privilege because the Maple Leaf is also becoming a symbol of Western Imperialism.

  • Peacewisher

    @RD: People don’t need to be paid to present objective truth… but they probably do require some kind of recompense to promote propaganda.

  • Mary

    British Cyclers Set Out to Remap the Nakba
    Saturday February 21, 2015

    Cycle ’48 is a collective of 3 British women who all cycled to Palestine from the UK. The project aims to remap the erased histories of the Nakba, promoting the Right of Return for Palestinian refugees whilst exposing the role of the Jewish National Fund, in their ethnic cleansing policies.

    Cycle ’48 is an ongoing project remapping erased histories on two wheels. Last week we left Aida Refugee Camp in Bethlehem, and joined the Jewish National Fund cycle trail from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv in order to uncover the hidden stories on its path.

    We are standing outside ‘Derech Eretz’, a swish wedding venue nestled between rolling green hills, the ground is littered with red poppies and bright yellow mustard flowers. An immaculate green lawn stretches out before the wood-paneled modern building. In the far corner there is a bar/DJ booth, its walls decorated with irregular golden stones. A few feet above it, higher on the hill, is a beautiful golden ruin with arched windows and doorways.

    The manager rests one arm casually on the entrance of the venue, where chairs and tables are adorned with beautiful fabric and set ready for a celebration feast. His other arm gestures wistfully in the air as he tells us what he knows of the land we are standing on.

    “There’s lots of Roman history here”, he begins, avoiding the issue for some time.

    “What about ’48?” we ask, the year of the Palestinian Nakba (catastrophe). “Do you know the name of this village?”, we point to the ruins which are now fitted with dramatic lighting.

    “Mmm”, he strokes his chin. “No, I don’t know the name,” he shrugs. “The Arabs ran away – there were some rumours spread and they left.”

    /..
    http://www.imemc.org/article/70670

    Good on you girls. No easy task dealing with the IDF, the checkpoints, the Jewish settler only roads, etc.

  • Resident Dissident

    “People don’t need to be paid to present objective truth… but they probably do require some kind of recompense to promote propaganda.”

    Too true – like there is no Russian heavy weaponry in Eastern Ukraine, that Putin is a gentleman etc. Perhaps you or Mr Goss could present the objective truth about what happened to Litvinenko and Sergei Magnitsky?

  • Peacewisher

    @Mary: William Hague talking a bit of sense about Ukraine (and ISIS for that matter) on Andrew Marr. Perhaps he talks to Michael Heseltine.

  • Clark

    Resident Disident, I come here to learn (among other objectives), and you’re at it again:

    ” Perhaps you or Mr Goss could present the objective truth about what happened to Litvinenko and Sergei Magnitsky?”

    Please just tell me instead of throwing rhetorical questions at other commenters. Please don’t assume prior knowledge.

  • Clark

    Resident Dissident, I appreciated your suggestions yesterday regarding policy towards Russia:

    “No I think there should be really tough economic sanctions – all the Bank accounts and investments of Russians in the West should be frozen pending investigations as whether they are the proceeds of crime (especially wrt Russian law), which is of course what should have happened in existing money laundering regulations any way – together with implementing a universal Magnitsky Law (we are still awaiting Mr Goss’s view on the subject of Sergei Magnitsky’s treatment by his gentleman friend). And no I don’t believe Putin would invade the West – the oligarchs wouldn’t want an attack on their children and whores.”

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/02/amnesty-international-conference-on-torture/comment-page-5/#comment-510580

  • Peacewisher

    @John: Enjoy your ornithology. I’m outta here soon as well.

    RD: If there was a “peoples uprising” against the fascists in Mariupol, would USUK still distort the truth and declare war on Russia, do you think?

    Fine to defend your truth, but there comes a point where the chickens come home to roost.

  • Clark

    Resident Dissident, regarding this section of the above:

    “all the Bank accounts and investments of Russians in the West should be frozen pending investigations as whether they are the proceeds of crime”

    This seems a good suggestion. I doubt our government will do it though; I suspect there is too much corruption and collusion. I suspect that the rich on both sides of this conflict are doing too well together.

    How could this be targeted so as to hit real wealth and not economically cripple ordinary Russians?

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