Honoured to give the keynote speech at Amnesty’s conference on torture in London yesterday. Then dashed back to Edinburgh for a very romantic evening with Nadira – and Cameron!
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Habbabkuk, Resident Dissident, Anon and a few others have already done the course. No need for them to re-apply. 🙂
I just saw Craig John. He was speaking from Ramsgate to Afshin Rattansi of RT’s Going Underground. He is an excellent investigative journalism.
http://rt.com/shows/going-underground/
Three times a week Afshin Rattansi and his team go underground to discover the stories that aren’t being covered by the mainstream UK media. From GCHQ to Occupy protests, and everything else in between, Going Underground is here to bring a fresh perspective to our audiences around Britain.
….journalist.
Yes, thanks Mary. We need more journalists like him. I have just written to my MP, Steve McCabe, about Cameron’s madness. It might not be the best letter in the world but time is short. I urge everyone who believes in our country to write to their MPs too. I copied in John McDonnell MP, and I think it is a good policy to copy in another MP, to authenticate receipt. This is what I wrote.
“The putsch puppet government of Ukraine put in power with western finance, has not done well in waging war on its own people. More than twice as many people have been killed in this war as were killed in the Israeli genocide of Palestinians (which started at the same time). The Palestinian war was reported on mainstream media. The Ukraine war, because we have an interest in regime change, was not. We are teaching Ukraine what western ‘democracy’ means. Putin has tried to broker a peace deal with Hollande and Merkel.
Yesterday, without going to parliament, Cameron announced that UK troops were to be sent to Ukraine to train Ukrainian troops on how to do a better job killing one another. Ukraine is bankrupt. Its gas is about to run out because it has been waging war instead of paying its bills. When its gas is cut off the rest of Europe will suffer. What is worse it is moving us towards another global confrontation, and perhaps even, apocalyptic destruction of the planet on ideological grounds. Before this latest conflict Ukraine had known no civil war since the Russian civil war. We are a puppet of America. Craig Murray said as much this morning on Russia Today (one of the few places you can get balanced news).
I urge you to do something to stop this madness. Since the milennium we have known nothing but war and failed states. Confronting Russia in this way is likely to make the planet uninhabitable. For what? To appease our masters in the USA? Cameron is a protege of Thatcher. When her popularity was on the wane she went to war in the Falklands which financially costs us an arm and a leg annually to maintain, let alone the cost in loss of life at the time. Please, I urge, you, do not let Cameron get away with this. Look what he did in Libya and his proud boasts afterwards for causing this failed state. Do something, for God’s sake, about this madness. I urge you. Because if he does get away with it he will get re-elected on a wave of anti-Russian sentiment.
John Goss
Tony-M, welcome, welcome indeed. And thanks for the humour. It is so dark in this place. Some sanity from time to time is a welcome relief. It sometimes seems like there are so few of us left. The madness of Cameron is much worse than George III’s porphyria, which is also incurable.
Thanks for reposting this, Clark; I’d have missed it in the ongoing waffle.
http://www.interpretermag.com/it-is-seen-as-correct-to-initiate-the-annexation-of-the-eastern-regions-of-ukraine-to-russia/
Absolutely fascinating; if nothing else it indicates some very realistic thinking, and confirms some ideas I’d formed. OTOH, it seems wise to bear in mind the suspicion that this material was deliberately leaked, and that Russian intentions don’t quite conform to the rationale here (which we’d all like to believe, perhaps, as it offers an endpoint). Just saying. In any case, it looks like the push for a corridor to Sevastopol, at least, will continue.
John Goss, I’ve read, or at least examined, many articles that you’ve linked to, plus the articles that RD has linked, and a load of others.
My friends? Yeah, my friends. Right.
Ba’al, thanks; I’m glad I can do something right.
That document was first linked here by Resident Dissident.
Clark, I really don’t think you understand where these Neocon-Zionists are dragging us, or that you, Resident Dissident, Ba’al and other Russophobes are dragging us. I am no Daniel, but the writing is on the wall. Wake up! it’s for your own good.
OK, down’s easier.
Ba-aa ba-aa. Putin good. Putin save world. Ba-aa ba-aa. RT never lie. Ba-aa.
Yes, welcome Tony M. I shouldn’t be suicidal I should just get it over with. Ba-aa. Be much better without nuclear shills like me.
Ba’al, thanks; I’m glad I can do something right.
You manage it most of the time, IMO. It’s a wicked world, though, innit?
Not aware of dragging anyone anywhere, btw. The way I see things is the way I see things, and I am as entitled to object to Goss’s opinions as he is to object to mine. Deal with it, Goss. Preferably with as much independent evidence for your position as you demand from others in support of theirs.
There are at least two sides to any conflict, and in this case there are four. The pro-Russian separatists who favour an oligarchy whose corruption is held in check by a tyrant, a Ukrainian oligarchy (nationalist when it suits them) whose corruption is uncontrolled, part of the population which doesn’t like oligarchy, and the part of the population whose life has recently been wrecked or ended by either of the oligarchical concerns. Personally, my sympathies are with the last. I’ve seen a figure of a million displaced by the current conflict.
One other thing: this too easily becomes a gang fight. I happen to agree with RD (and Fred)* on Ukraine and Russia. This doesn’t necessarily make us allies on anything else.The tendency to polarise between those who have a prescribed set of identical opinions on every possible issue and those who are manifestly considering each issue on its merits before reaching their opinion, is deeply unhealthy. Groupthink is what starts wars.
* and, for all I know, Habbabcuk. Who remains behind Habbabreak for me.
“I’ve seen a figure of a million displaced by the current conflict.”
I’ve seen that figure too. And 5,300 dead. These figures are the product of a regime-change. There was nothing like it before. Deal with it.
I suppose the answer to who is behind the leaks on Al Jazeera and in the Guardian might be found in the Guardian quote today that at NIA in RSA is totally penetrated and “everyone is working for someone else”. A situation to be avoid in the UK one would hope.
Clark; “Macky, 6:45 pm; could you link to the original Der Spiegel article please?”
Ok, just spotted this request of yours;
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/war-in-ukraine-a-result-of-misunderstandings-between-europe-and-russia-a-1004706.html
Seems an in-depth account, but by no means a fully comprehensive account; not a word about the US !!, and nothing about the Feb 2014 agreement between Russia, EU & Ukraine to hold elections later in the year & address the concerns of ethnic Russians living in the East, what was sabotaged by you know who !
Clark; “Macky, 7:12 pm; thanks for the BBC article about the Maidan shootings. It seems more complicated than I’d previously thought. I said that the shootings didn’t suit Russia, but I retract that now; there could have been multiple parties, I just don’t know.”
So you originally said the “shootings didn’t suit Russia”, and after reading a BBC confession of a Maidan demonstrator who admits being in Right Sektor controlled building, where high velocity rifles were handed, and who spent 20 minutes shooting policemen, you now say that you “retract” your statement about the ““shootings didn’t suit Russia” !! By what logic does a confession of an anti-Russian shooter cause you to retract your belief that Russia was not behind the sniper shooting ?!!
Here’s another angle that I stumbled across;
http://journal-neo.org/2014/05/17/kiev-snipers-mystery-solved/
“Groupthink is what starts wars.”
On that I agree. I also agree that your opinions are not lightly derived, that you hold them honestly, and have every right to hold them. It is what real democracy is about.
Did someone mention global warming?
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/8102
Thanks Macky. Your link supports this one. I know I’ve contributed to Professors Blog in support of Julian Assange, but I use it for sourcing the truth about what is happening. Professor Marcello Ferrada de Noli has experienced what it is like to be imprisoned under General Pinochet, seen colleagues who died for opposing Fascism, and who believes in human rights like many who contribute to this blog including the owner. This is what those who support Cameron in his attempts to further foment war in Ukraine are supporting all this.I will not be silenced over it.
http://professorsblogg.com/2014/05/15/odessa-massacre-firebombs-thrown-by-pro-junta-actvists-burn-alive-43/
Phil, 10:52 am; thanks for that link. That’s one of the places I went walking on Friday. I must have been there just a bit before those photos were taken. I was at the docks just south-east of Tower Bridge a bit later, and noticed that the water level behind the barrier was a fair bit higher than the pavement I was standing on.
These figures are the product of a regime-change.
No, they are the product of a war. Which appears to have been planned in advance of the ‘regime-change’ (see RD’s/Clark’s/my link, above) with intentional destabilisation – by both sides- preceding this. Evidence to the contrary welcome. Note also that Yanukovich’s moral fibre was not rated highly, even by his backers in Moscow.
Clark; “Yes, I still regard the presence of Russian and pro-Russian forces in east Ukraine as proven; evidence supplied by Resident Dissident’s links”
I ask for evidence &/or rational reasoning.
Clark; “Yes, I still accept that there was widespread support for the overthrow of the former Ukrainian government; evidence being the massive crowds, protests and support for Euromaiden, a mother with her pram singing in the street, people supplying food to protesters; incontrovertible.”
Yes there were at times massive crowds at the Maidan demonstrations, but would you argue that these people reflected a clear enough majority of all Ukrainians ? The Polls cited on Wiki show almost equal support for & against, with of course larger regional variations. So by no means a convincing majority for a mandate; Wiki also states; “According to polls, 11% of the Ukrainian population has participated in the Euromaidan demonstrations, and another 9% has supported the demonstrators with donations”; however the main point is that the Feb 2014 agreement allowed for early presidential elections in a few short months, so don’t you think that the majority would have much preferred that safer & legal option ?
Clark; “Yes, I still think that the people were the decisive factor in the overthrow of the government; it certainly wasn’t the snipers, though they did precipitate the violence.”
AFAIK ALL serious commentators & analysts disagree with your humble opinion by stating that without the sniper attacks, the Feb 2014 Agreement would have work. They assert that the sniper attacks were in response to this agreement, with the successful aim of sabotaging it.
Yes figureheads I agree Clark, Cipher indeed but nevertheless puppets elected by the people in a system of representative democracy. No I strongly disagree that the task is beyond the human mind. Before we even think of restructuring the global system I myself believe it is crucial to analyse the present situation and why, WHY do we witness complete chaos in what should be a competitive yet peaceful world (competition and ambition as in sport, is healthy and empowers the human mind with passion and hope).
Even simple analysis suggests a constant intervention by the US with Britain animating in the covers. We engage in endless open-ended, undetermined wars with seemingly intangible objectives, no geographical limits and without any clear mandate to justify the murder of innocent civilians including women and children.
With closer inspection and a modicum of insight and vision perhaps it is possible to conclude the objective is entropy, a free for all that feeds the MIC, feeds the corporate fat-cats, feeds the banksters and monarchs while establishing a charade for public consumption.
Human minds can address this anarchy, proven when we blocked the illegal bombing of Syria. The West thinks it holds a monopoly on moral authority and exceptionalism plays a major part of that, so, we do nothing except play UN cosmetics and constantly scratch the surface. Whether Conservative, Labor, Black or white, Jew, Muslim or Christian the human mind can work out solutions like addressing the financing of terror networks that run through the precious monarchy in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and terror centers in Turkey and Lebanon. Stop sending money and arms to so called ‘moderate’ rebels and collaborating with the incendiary thugs whose genesis was the NATO war in Libya, the Boko Haram butchering and slaying in Africa; ISIS and al-Nusra in the Middle East, these barbaric entities constantly justify military hardware & regional strategy (proxy murder) from the West.
Maybe it is the human mind has no respect for the vital spark of life and to do anything that might avert a lifeless body and a wandering soul is, well, too much of a risk.
Craig; “Macky, you acting as John Goss’s rottweiler has helped entrench the problem.”
I’m too polite to say how you appear to be acting iro RD, with the irony that I suspect that he actually despises you. As for being a Rottweiler, Craig would be hard pressed to find a more loyal & aggressive one than you.
Macky, like I wrote before; multiple parties, complicated.
But if you’d rather I rule out Russia I’ll rule out Russia. Shall I rule out Russia?
The comment just quoted was Clark’s not Craig’s !
@ Fool, if you’ve managed to wade this far –
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/24/south-africa-scrambles-to-deal-with-fallout-from-leaked-spy-cables
Definitely looks like RSA. Curiously, while Fox, Israeli MSM, al-Jaz and RT have this story, the Guardian looks like the only UK outlet highlighting it. Now there’s a thing.
Clark; “But if you’d rather I rule out Russia I’ll rule out Russia. Shall I rule out Russia?”
What I long for is convincing argumentation & solid logic for whatever your povs are; your reverse logic re your comments on possible Russian sniper involement are just irational contradictions !
Macky, I respect Craig, because he examines situations carefully.
But if you’d rather I subjugate my views to John Goss ad thus to Russia Today, I suppose I’d better do so. I’m sure those French police really were shooting blanks, too. And that parrot made a really salient point. Gotta be a false flag, yes? Ba-aa ba-aa. And the WTC towers must have been nuked, because only nuclear tech is evil enough to bring down cheap corporate skyscrapers. Except Russia’s nukes, they’re good nukes, and Chernobyl was a false flag.
Better?
Ba-aa ba-aa. Craig Murray stupid NeoCon. Ba-aa ba-aa. Tony M lovely man ba-aa ba-ba.
“Did someone mention global warming?”
The high (and low) tides we are experiencing right now are down to astrological factors. We are at the high point of a 37 year cycle governed by the orbits and tilt of the earth and moon and approaching equinox when we get one of the biggest tides of the year. This year there will be an eclipse right on the equinox so the sun and moon will be perfectly aligned and their gravities combined.