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  • lysias

    Even the BBC is obliged to report the latest Savile/Thatcher news: Savile: ‘How could this be allowed to happen?’:

    In 1979, the new Thatcher government was determined to reduce public spending. At the election Labour had suggested the NHS was not safe in their hands and ministers were encouraged to find new and innovative ways to fund the NHS.

    In September of that year, Jimmy Savile “invited himself to tea” with the Health Secretary Patrick Jenkin to discuss funding of a new spinal injuries centre at the much-loved but down-at-heel Stoke Mandeville hospital.

    This strange celebrity was seen as an opportunity by the new Conservative government. “Margaret Thatcher sponsored Savile in his role as fundraiser,” Dr Androulla Johnstone told today’s news conference. Her report details how the DJ was invited to Downing Street and to the prime minister’s residence at Chequers.

    So the free market ideology was at the root of it.

  • RobG

    Savile was also given the keys of Broadmoor, and for a time was actually running the place; A DJ running a high security mental hospital? No, Im not making this up, and it happened during the Thatcher years when Leon Brittan was Home Secretary; the same Leon Brittan who was recently buried in an unmarked grave, who call me Dave recently praised as being a wonderful human being; the same Leon Brittan who gave Nick Clegg his first political job, and who was a lifelong friend of Cleggs father

    But of course Cameron and Clegg dont know anything about the rumours that have been flying around for years, or indeed the police investigations that were getting ever closer

  • fred

    Talking of child abuse Sheriff Peter Watson has been suspended by Lord Gill after the collapse of the Heather Capital hedge fund.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31625411

    Peter Watson has close ties to the higher echelons of the Scottish legal system and to government because when he was a partner in Levy & Mcrae he was employed by the Crown Office and Scottish Ministers, at great public expense to prosecute and imprison Robert Green, who was campaigning for an investigation into the handling of the Hollie Greig child abuse case.

  • Republicofscotland

    You see, ISIS works on the same principle as our monetary system.

    Let me explain.

    Money is a belief system and it is that belief that gives money its value – or makes it real to you. However, up to 90% of money in circulation doesn’t exist. It is nothing more than numbers on a computer screen.

    ISIS is the same. People believe that they are real and that is what gives them the fear factor. Yet up to 99% of terrorism doesn’t exist, except for in the Mainstream Media’s imagination.

    Therefore the fact that the vast majority of ISIS terrorists/soldiers do not exist except in the imagination allows the brutal murderers to walk into any country that the MSM want.

    And once there they can take over that country’s Oil Refineries, Airforce Basis, Gas & Electricity supplies, Dams, internet cafe’s etc, etc, etc and then sell the produce back to the government of whatever country that they are occupying.

    But it isn’t real.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    RepblicofScotland, ISIS and all the other fascist Islamist outfits are very real and as with the Afghan so-called ‘Mujaheddin’, have been created, funded and armed by the best pals (strategic assets) of the West (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Pakistan, et al ad nauseam).

    As you rightly suggest, the reason is that they serve a perennial useful tactical purpose towards the stategic goals common to all power-blocs throughout history. The current campaign against ISIS, for example, is largely cosmetic – the equivalent of the Pentagon sending round an ‘Avon Lady’ – and is designed primarily to ensure that ISIS and all the others continue to project US power in the ‘MENA’ (‘Middle East and North Africa’) region as they have been doing since the late 1970s.

  • Clark

    Suhayl, good to see you.

    Duncan, good to see you too.

    Don’t expect most of this lot to pay you much attention. Things have gone downhill here. But it’s excellent to see you both here again, do please stick around for a while, I could do with some intelligent discussion.

  • Clark

    RoS, it’s the heavy crew; learn while you have the chance. Suhayl is very knowledgeable about many cultures in Asia and the Middle East. His books are well worth a read, too. Duncan’s mind is as sharp as a knife.

    These two old-time visitors are way beyond Spivey’s league.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Makes Tony Blair look like a well-meaning pussycat.

    A well meaning, not-too-bright pussycat disconnected from reality, who dashes around in all directions collecting money advising people on matters he doesn’t understand. His policies have arguably* killed fewer people, so point conceded, reluctantly. However the implications of his emphasis on globalised capitalism will probably cause more misery in the long run.

    Tony Blair’s week continues on the An Apology thread. It’s been a busy one, and at one point, Tirana, HMG appears to have been complicit in whatever he’s up to. Latest probable location: Baku.

    * I’m not arguing this point one way or the other. One man’s death diminisheth mee.

  • Clark

    Suhayl, I’ve been wondering about ISIS a lot, please tell us more. I read of several billion dollars worth of weaponry, channelled from the US through one of the Gulf monarchies, I forget which. This was supposedly to help fight Assad’s government in Syria, but the impression I get is that the US have no idea exactly who the weapons end up with, and more than a few of these Islamo-fascists may well be fighting on various different fronts.

  • Daniel

    @Republic of Scotland,

    After having seen the one hour press conference live, I would surmise to a high degree of probability, that Jihadi John will turn out to be an establishment patsy.

  • Mary

    That Swann video I linked to confirms in whose hands the weapons are held and how they were supplied.

  • Clark

    RoS, the ideology of the Islamofascists is projected from Saudi Arabia, which is part of “our side”; an ally of US and UK. As is Israel, which is also allied with Saudi Arabia – an odd paring, indeed. But my understanding is that very very few people could walk freely among both ISIS and in Israel – ISIS members are more than happy to kill most people, but they’re even more enthusiastic about killing Jews. At the lower levels, members of these groups/countries think they’re on opposite sides. But generalised extreme violence is useful within the greater structure, which is the “Western” alliance, which includes NATO.

    I’ve learned a lot since the times when Suhayl visited regularly. I hope he keeps commenting this evening because I’d like to learn more, and clarify my thoughts.

  • fred

    It was the Wahhabists who created Saudi Arabia, the Ikhwan tribe defeated all the other tribes and created a unified Arabia with Ibn Saud as king. Saud then had a problem, a load of warriors without a war, he didn’t want to upset his new friends the British and they didn’t want to stop fighting so he did the only thing he could do, he machine gunned them.

    Now they are back with a vengeance.

  • Republicofscotland

    “After having seen the one hour press conference live, I would surmise to a high degree of probability, that Jihadi John will turn out to be an establishment patsy.2
    ______________________________-

    Yes Daniel I agree, and no doubt he’ll be buried, at the bottom of the deep blue sea, just like Bin Laden.

    If you’ve reached a persuasion to believe that sh*te.

  • Clark

    Fred, 8:52 pm: when was that and what was the incident called?

    Islamists often seem to end up massacred by the people they were fighting on behalf of.

  • Resident Dissident

    “We on the Left have it all the time”

    So those who sing the praise of Le Pen are on the left? What with Mr Goss talking of ejaculation surely a new tendency has been born – Les Penistas.

  • Macky

    @John Goss, thank you for the The Prayer of St Francis; too beautiful & powerful to be tainted by association with the Thatcher monster.

  • Macky

    Clark; “You waste masses of my time on checking out your wild goose chases”

    Should you not be addresses this to RD, as you fell for yet another one of his long list of “smoking guns” that always turn out to actually really be a steaming pile of manure ?

  • Clark

    Macky, no. I think you’re probably dishonest, or at best incapable of self-honesty. I point out error after error, but you never admit to being wrong, you just move the goal-posts each time. I think this site would be better off without you.

  • Macky

    There we have it folks ! I don’t think I really need to spell it out, this revels all that needs to be know about Clark.

    Craig will not be pleased, well not openly, as remember he “welcomes dissenting opinions”

  • parky

    It seems that Sir Malcolm R is a cousin of Lord Leon B – Nothing like keeping it all in the family.

  • Clark

    Macky, Craig certainly approves of honest dissent. However, he does not like liars, which is what I suspect you are. Of course only you can know if you’ve been lying, or whether you could merely be mistaken. But since you never admit error, you may as well be treated as a liar.

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