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  • Non

    Fred, one can’t help but notice you’re quite sensitive about being wrong. Did you go to one of those traditional British boarding schools where they fuck you up the ass when you screw up? It must have happened a lot, since you’re such a dunce, but those days are over! No one wants to fuck your flappy wrinkled drunken asshole now.

  • fred

    “Fred, one can’t help but notice you’re quite sensitive about being wrong.”

    Fuck off and die retard.

  • Rehmat

    Some of Amnesty International officials have been declared ‘antisemite’ by the Organized Jewry for Israel for what it stands for.

    In 2010, Frank Johanssan, the director of Amnesty International branch in Finland came under fire for calling Israel “a scum state”. The worst part of the story is that he refused to apologize for his remarks under Jewish lobby pressure. In an interview via telephone with Israeli daily The Jerusalem Post, he said that he stands by his statement that Israel is a “scum state”.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/08/25/amnesty-intl-finland-israel-scum-state/

  • GCHQ pervs

    Great fun. Building on the legal judgement against GCHQ spying, you can demand to know if you were personally spied on.

    Find out if your personal photo is in Hannigan’s personal Youth-Naturist scrapbook.

  • glenn

    WTH is the matter with me?

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01005/police-gas-masks_1005313i.jpg

    Incidentally, the second picture showed our famously unarmed police defending freedom at the 2012 Olympics ®.

    This is how our Internal Security works, smiling sweetly at visiting dignitaries, while snarling at British suspects (otherwise known as UK residents) who might – just might – not like the way things are going in this country, the way we are “managed” rather than represented, and are unhappy at our tax money being used to spy on, undermine, infiltrate, set up, and even fraudulently befriend (and sleep with, and father children with) and then betray people who want to organise in a non-approved manner.

    The approved manner, of course, being to shut up, sit down, and put up with the grinding hopelessness of life that is the fate of the joyless masses.

  • glenn

    Yup. I wasn’t being stupid (on this occasion). The posting s/w here changes HTTP links into non-working HTTPS links.

  • John Goss

    “@ JG:
    The thermo-nuclear explosions which so precisely brought down the twin towers …

    Rubbish.”

    Canspeccy, I only asked you to look at the first photo in this link and tell me it was caused by, was it a bird, was it a plane. . .

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=7858

    Instead you posted some Blaster Bates links of your own which clearly show you did not look at the photo. Now if you do look at the first (or I think third) photo can I have your esteemed opinion about what caused it? Thanks.

  • N_

    @Habb 10:40 pm – ha ha! Yeah I’m a KGB agent of influence, you know!

    In 2007 the Russian cyber attack on Estonia took the west by surprise.

    In Wikipedia’s amusing words, “Some observers reckoned that the onslaught on Estonia was of a sophistication not seen before. The case is studied intensively by many countries and military planners“.

    The US embassy still does its stuff funding Andrei Navalny and so on. If that were really a threat, the embassy would be shut down. There’ll be no colour revolution in Russia, no ‘spring’, no Ukraine-type job.

    Estonia, like Georgia, buys weapons from Israel, by the way.

    I think I’m right in saying the ‘forest brothers’ in that country have as many men under arms as the army.

  • N_

    But oh the west can ‘sanction’ Russian singer Joseph Kobzon, who has long been known for his organised crime connections and I seem to recall had problems entering the US many year ago.

  • ToivoS

    I just read in the Guardian today that Russia was secretly bankrolling the Scottish independence movement (it was so secret that the Guardian was unable to provide any evidence). Maybe it is time for Craig to let us know what side he is on.

  • glenn

    @ToivoS: Hah, good one. Well let’s just put it this way – if CM really is a fan of Putin, he’s very, very good indeed at hiding it.

  • Peacewisher

    C’mon John… you know the mainstream media won’t say anything truthful about the coup… it’s meant to be Russia’s fault, remember, and they should pay “us” reparations once they’ve been forced back into their corner by the glorious neocon army and their heroic Squealers.

    But… Nuland tried it again apparently in Macedonia… known apparently as Kiev 2.0:

    http://thenewsdoctors.com/nuland-attempts-kiev-version-2-0-in-skopje/

    But they were wise to her tricks, and the coup attempt failed. I hope Greece and Macedonia can work together in future. As for Bulgaria… I’m sure the people won’t thank the EU for selling out re Southstream, and the latter might find before long that they’ve lost influence on a whole part of the Eastern Mediterranean.

    You can’t fool all the people all the time.

  • Mary

    Irony really is dead.

    17 September 2013
    Arts and Business Leaders Come Together to Support Amnesty International
    Amnesty International today announced the launch of the Secretary General’s Global Council, a forum that will see leaders in the arts, business and philanthropy work together to further human rights.
    http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/arts-and-business-leaders-come-together-support-amnesty-international-2013-

    ‘The founding members of the Global Council are: the author Paulo Coelho; Executive Director of the Mo Ibrahim Foundation, Hadeel Ibrahim; philanthropist Lord Michael Levy; Tanzanian entrepreneur Ali Mufuruki; financier and philanthropist Krishna Rao; and education entrepreneur Sunny Varkey.

    “I am very grateful to all of those who have accepted my invitation to join the Global Council. I know they will bring invaluable support as we seek to ensure Amnesty’s growth around the world,” said Salil Shetty, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.

    “I look forward to working with such respected leaders in the arts and business. It will be beneficial to draw on their expertise to provide advice and guidance to help in our work to advance justice and human rights.”’

    ~~~

    ‘The undersigned organisations to this press release stress that Mr. Levy, born in 1944, is one of the major supporters of settlement and extremist institutions in Israel, he stands behind vast donations to support and promote the concept of ​​occupation. Moreover, that his 9-year tenure as adviser to the former British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, saw the implementation of various policies against human rights, be it on the level of support for Israeli occupation, or participation of that government in aggression against Iraq and in crimes against humanity. Many people around the world realise the fanaticism and extremism of advisory opinions promulgated by Mr. Levy during that period, and their threat of world security and peace, as he was considered among the key people to launch the trend of forsaking basic rights for the higher interests of state.

    The Global Network for Rights and Development and the undersigned organisations believe that a person with such record shall wreck the credibility of Amnesty International, and condemn its tendencies and policies into questioning; a development that could lead human rights organisations around the world to boycott Amnesty International.’

    Denunciation and Puzzlement at Amnesty International’s appointment of Michael Abraham Levy
    http://speakingtruthtoamnesty.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/denunciation-and-puzzlement-at-amnesty.html

  • giyane

    Mary

    Criminals do money-laundering. Politicians do white-washing. Zionists do chutzpah. Same end result: wailing and gnashing of teeth.

  • N_

    @ToivoS

    I just read in the Guardian today that Russia was secretly bankrolling the Scottish independence movement

    They may well have been. Certainly the US and China gave propaganda support to the No side.

    From the British brand-management POV, recall that Russian observers of the Scottish indyref said that vote-counting wasn’t up to scratch. That looks like help for the side that narrowly lost.

    As for ‘no evidence’, you’ve got to remember that while the Scott Trust likes to sell lots of newspapers, you and I may not be the main market for the latest article. (Such articles originate with MI6 hacks. BTW, is it online? I couldn’t find it.)

    Meanwhile, the Litvinenko inquiry proceeds. One thing the bewigged ones and their masters are not going to want to do is to chase Russian money out of London, money that the Chancery Division of the English High Court has played a major role in retaining.

    Berezovsky (protected by London-based Israeli bodyguards) got offed before he could say more. He’d already said that British and Russian intelligence were cooperating to cover stuff up. Criticising Britain at all was a big step for him.

    How much attention is going to be directed to the big question: where did the polonium come from?

  • Peacewisher

    @N: I remember when CND became popular in the early 1980s they were accused of having Soviet support. How we laughed! Then, as now, it was government incompetence, stupid policy, and taking people for fools – remember “Protect and Survive” – that caused the grassroots growth of the movement.

    I suppose these people would have said it was Soviet influence that brought Clement Atlee to power in 1945 (!) In each case, the protagonists insult the intelligence of the British people.

  • John Goss

    “I remember when CND became popular in the early 1980s they were accused of having Soviet support. How we laughed!”

    I used to think I wonder which of our comrades is pocketing this then, because it wasn’t filtering down the ranks.

  • Aspergers

    Putin has been advised to eat asparagus twice a day, to cure his aspergers. Can the habba group here shed some light on this cure, in enough time to prevent WW3 ! He was certainly OK when he prevented rifkind from taking us to war after the al-Ghouta sarin false flag. Of course there are fools here who will tell us the israeli 8000 “real time” intercept of a syrian foot soldier raising the sarin alarm to his superiors was genuine,unlike the amateur ukie audio attempt of MH17.

    BTW-it was CMs “Trodos” post that saved the country from the billions (and lives) that would have been lost , if we had all been sucked into the ploy. The parliamentary vote rejecting rifkind’s youtube “evidence” must have been influenced by CMs simple Trodos logic.

  • Mary

    There’s no ‘alleging’ about it. Just look at the photos. Atrocious.

    UK Labour Party Candidate Beaten and Arrested by Israeli Soldiers at Protest in Palestine
    Monday February 16, 2015
    Human rights activist and English political candidate, Mick Bowman, alleges he was beaten and arrested at a peaceful demonstration in Palestine on Friday.
    http://www.imemc.org/article/70605

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

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    “Putin has been advised to eat asparagus twice a day, to cure his aspergers. Can the habba group here shed some light on this cure, in enough time to prevent WW3 ! He was certainly OK when he prevented rifkind from taking us to war after the al-Ghouta sarin false flag. Of course there are fools here who will tell us the israeli 8000 “real time” intercept of a syrian foot soldier raising the sarin alarm to his superiors was genuine,unlike the amateur ukie audio attempt of MH17.”
    _______________

    please launch an investigation on whether this post is really from Aspergers or whether it is a false flag. Although the word “rifkind” is present, the absence of the usual words “goyim”, “cattle” and “nudelman” makes me suspicious.

  • johnstone

    http://Www.Cluesforum.Info 9:49
    From the very first breaking news on the radio though the wall to wall coverage in the MSM none of it added up. Yet the incredible story it told became official as well as gospel AND still is. If you suggest to someone that evidence gathered by investigators indicates that there were no planes, no highjackers, no jumpers, no firefighters, nor grieving relatives they climb up on their high horse and say how dare you insult the dead and bereaved. But I always wonder just how many are terrified to face the implications of this gargantuan lie …..a better not to look into it for fear of what I might find, attitude . Is a side effect of the subsequent series of events using media hoaxes a psyco-sociological phenomenon of the communal psyche becoming more and more gullible NOT less?

  • N_

    @Peacewisher

    I remember Protect and Survive. All you had to do was change the c to an s. Didn’t CND membership quadruple in a year in response?

    Psy war on the home front is much more advanced now, unfortunately.

    Talking of CND, d’you remember how the official economic statistics used to list under ‘exports’ the money the US paid Britain to have its bases here? That and insurance (mainly through Lloyd’s) were Britain’s biggest invisible exports – and it was only the invisibles that kept the country’s trade balance in the black.

    But nowadays, even campaigners against US bases don’t actually know whether the US pays any money to have them here! I asked. They said they’d like to find out and could I tell them if I learnt anything!

    How things have changed! Thirty years ago you could go into a left-wing bookshop in most big towns and get pamphlets and books from which you could learn quite a lot about the US military presence in Britain. And the communications intelligence presence, although less so about the CIA presence in Whitehall and elsewhere. You could also learn about the nuclear and chemical weapons arms races and the strategic balance of power.

    The bullshit now is much more prevalent. Most opinions about the Ukraine, even from well-meaning radical people, are sadly ill-informed.

    And nobody remembers things that happened more than about five minutes ago. Oh, was there a war in Georgia? Did Russia attack Estonia with cyber weapons?

    Ever watch Invasion of the Bodysnatchers with Donald Sutherland, Peacewisher? D’you think someone’s going to point at us and screech, because we remember stuff and can think about stuff 🙂

    My guess is that whereas the US used to pay, now they run their bases here for free. Are you up on this? Maybe Craig can help?

    That said, please don’t ever underestimate the KGB. They are a formidable organisation, and yes they are active in Britain, Germany and elsewhere. (If someone’s going to tell me about the name-change, yes, yes, FSB/SVR – I do know what I’m talking about).

  • N_

    @Mary

    Yes, it should indeed make us think, that the same radioactive substance was used!

    But that article would have been okayed by MI6 and mentioning Arafat in the strapline should give us pause. There again, we aren’t the main market for it.

    Chavez was also killed, and as far as I’m aware polonium wasn’t used.

    Why Litvinenko was murdered is another question. Big money through Spain/Gibraltar may have been involved. Berezovsky was never going to smell of roses in the affair. Polonium was found in his building (which is near Prince Charles’s London base), as you probably know.

    Long time no hear, btw. I hope you’re well! 🙂

  • fred

    “Instead you posted some Blaster Bates links of your own which clearly show you did not look at the photo. Now if you do look at the first (or I think third) photo can I have your esteemed opinion about what caused it? Thanks.”

    I don’t see how that could be molten granite, the WTC wasn’t built on granite, the bed rock was sedimentary mica schist.

  • Fiona

    I lost much respect for Amnesty when they parted company with Gita Saghal. I believe in universal human rights and think that it is despicable to put the rights of women on a back footing in order to try to ‘build bridges’ people like Begg. Watch Assange’s excellent interview with him and Qreshi again. Begg shows all the classic body language signs of being quite angry at the turn of questioning over sharia etc towards the end of the interview. I absolutely stand up for his rights and those of Shake Aamer – Guantanamo is a disgrace – but I intensely dislike the world view of both of them.

    Why has it become so hard lately to fight battles on all fronts? If I, as an ardent secularist (I am not anti religious, by the way – I don’t think religion is the root of all evil) and a staunch believer in universal human rights, freedom of conscience, freedom of expression and freedom from surveillance, find myself at odds with islamists then I have no trouble in pexpressing this. I will not suspend criticism of the likes of Begg and Qreshi in order to criticize western governments. The enemy of my enemy is sometimes mine too. Shame on Amnesty.

  • Peacewisher

    @N: Yes, those were the days! (reminds me of a song).

    Some hope in this latest (16th Feb) report that the BBC are trying to get back to their old way of presenting propaganda in a ironic way:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVF7U8stRIU

    Propaganda message: rebels breaking the truce and firing out
    Actual situation: reporter nearly being hit by incoming fire

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