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  • John Goss

    “There will be no Polish delegation at Nemtsov’s funeral as the Speaker of the Polish Parliament has been denied entry.”

    You don’t think it might have something to do with Russia not being invited to the liberation of Aushwitz, you who are supposed to know something about Russian history?

    Or to protect them from flying when high-ranking Polish politicians mysteriously crash en-route (thou who believest that high-profile travellers are just as safe as the rest of us)?

  • RobG

    Are there any Americans tuning in?

    I’m talking tax, because wherever you live in the world, the IRS wants your tax dollars, to pay for the huge and idiotic war machine.

    It doesn’t matter if you’ve lived in Bolivia, or wherever, for forty years, if you’re an American passport holder you still have to pay tax to the IRS.

    Ever get the feeling you’ve been conned…

  • lysias

    And an aircraft carrier like the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan costs an awful lot to build. If it has to be written off, that is one hell of a loss.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Lysias

    “As a retired officer of the U.S. Navy…”

    ____________________

    Just to get things straight, Lysias, did you serve in the Navy before or after you were in the US (=Army) garrison in West-Berlin?

    I ask because from your various claims on here I gather you served in both the Navy and the Army.

  • John Goss

    Squonk “Although not necessarily on this blog.”

    Apologies. It is a very serious issue Fukushima and the ongoing pollution and threat to the planet. I have always been opposed to nuclear power as a source of energy. Remember the badges; “Атомная Знергия – Спасибо Нет!”?

    This evil conflict, for which Poroshenko is gearing up for round two, has taken over. It has to be stopped. That is no easy task. Nothing can be done about Fukushima. They are going to open up certain nuclear power facilities again is the last I read. The world has gone mad.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Resident Dissident

    “There will be no Polish delegation at Nemtsov’s funeral as the Speaker of the Polish Parliament has been denied entry.”

    ____________________

    You are of course referring to the Marshal of the Polish Sejm (and former Foreign Minister) Radoslaw Sikorski.

    The fascist, criminal organisation claiming to be the Russian govt does not look on Mr Sikorski with a favorable eye. This is probably because Mr Sikorski – like his illustrious but unrelated namesake General Wladyslaw Sikorski – is intelligent enough to see through the Russians and courageous enough to tell them where to get off.

    Oh that Mr Goss and his hangers-on would be blessed with similar intelligence!

  • Clark

    John Goss and Macky, those questions I was asking you:

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/02/amnesty-international-conference-on-torture/comment-page-10/#comment-511684

    “Do you consider yourself to be deliberately promoting the Kremlin’s agenda? Is that something you’d be proud to do?”

    Those were just the first questions. I expected you’d immediately answer no to both of them. I was surprised that you didn’t.

    You see, if you asked me if I was deliberately working to further the US or UK or EU agendas, I’d have no trouble at all in saying that I wasn’t. But you didn’t. You acted all offended, tried to present distractions, accused me of supporting fascists; anything but a straight answer to the questions.

    So I came to the conclusion that you ARE deliberately working to further the Kremlin’s agenda, and you’re so ashamed that you don’t want to admit it.

    I suppose you could be under some kind of threat or coercion, though that doesn’t seem likely on the face of it.

  • lysias

    I have, however, often had the unfortunate experience of having to eat Army food at various places at which I have been stationed during my military career.

  • Clark

    John Goss and Macky, what are your opinions of the Cablegate leak of US diplomatic telegrams, published by Wikileaks? Do you think that they were genuine?

  • Macky

    Resident Dissident; “This account is a complete misinterpretation of what happened as verified by independent parties some of those involved attacked pro unity demonstrators earlier in the day, and some were armed. That doesn’t justify the attacks and arson in response – but the manner in which you seek to twist the truth and have also lied in the past regarding my views on the matter speaks volumes about yourself.”

    Please give details of these “independent parties” verifications. Yes, as you say some trouble makers may or may not have initially attack the pro unity, and if some did, how do we know they were not agent provocateurs ? However no lives are reported to have been lost before the start of the fire, so as you say these early troubles cannot possibly motivate, justify or explain the subsequent horrific bloodlust & mass murder of the unarmed local people that had set up tents in front of the Trade Union building; was the only reason you mentioned this because it gives you an illogical excuse to called Tony M a liar ?

  • Dave

    @technicolour “see Luke Harding, the only UK journalist to be expelled from Russia since the Cold War knows, like the US, that Putin had Nemtsov murdered. LOL.”

    Why was he expelled?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Its not our fault we are having more fun than you..we had nowt..we were skint..and we worked hard in our different ways..taking the chances…to just go for it again and again and again..

    We can’t teach you …you have just to learn by example if you want to..if you don’t..then that is not down to me or my wife..for anything we did wrong..

    You got to work..you got to develop your skills..you got to be not just good but be brilliant ..cos this world ain’t lookin too good and soon us old folk will be dead..

    What are you going to do then?

    You are Being Drowned With Propaganda and Lies..from exceedingly evil people..It’s down to You Children To Take Them On.

    Challenge Them..Before They Destroy You..

    They Lie and Steal..and Do War…They are Not Nice..amd They Have Got Your head..They Have Filled it With Lies and Hate…

    Come on Children..You’ve Got To Fight Back..

    No one is going to do it for you..You have got to do it for Yourself..You’ve Got To Fight (Work Hard) to Get a Life..then you can stand on your own two feet and be proud…cos you’ve earned it..you did it by yourself…with a little help from your family and friends….(if you are lucky..they told us..well they weren’t very nice (well my sister was)..the rest of them..the people who you think…No..

    Nicest Girl in The Pub tonight..I said to her..well you don’t have much competition do you girl..She is My Best Friend. She is My Wife..The Love of My Life.

    Tony

  • John Goss

    “John Goss and Macky, those questions I was asking you:”

    I recall answering this by saying I do not know what the Kremlin’s agenda is. Do you?

  • John Goss

    “Why was he expelled?”

    Good question. I’d like to say he had written a book full of mischievous lies about Putin but I have not read it. Please don’t send me a copy. Harding was responsible for the treacherous book on which the deplorable pro-American propaganda film “The Fifth Estate” drew heavily. This is Wikipedia’s version (so pinch of salt).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Harding

  • Macky

    Clark;”“Do you consider yourself to be deliberately promoting the Kremlin’s agenda? Is that something you’d be proud to do?””

    You obviously a bit slow to take a hint; I don’t bother answering questions that are so stupid at the best of times, but when they are stupid & insulting, very little chance of being answered, when they are stupid, insulting & asked in a surreal Mccarthy-like accusative manner, then no chance of dignifying this approach with an answer; I suggest you watch this a few times, to see if you can understand why Kay Burley comes across as a bigot & a bully;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue6TEudFU8U

  • Herbie

    For those who are interested in the state of British media, Medialens often engages with British mainstream hacks through twitter and email.

    It’s very revealing.

    As many have pointed out, they’re little more than cheap hookers to banking and corporate interests.

  • Herbie

    Anyone who can’t see that the current demonisation of Putin is purely a result of Western banking and corporate interests is a fool.

    We’ve seen this process so often now that there’s no longer any excuse for ignorance of what’s going on here.

    If you can’t get it that way then it shouldn’t be too difficult to work out that the West is not interested in democracy, human rights or sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    Surely people understand at least that.

  • Tony M

    Merkel as former German Environment Minister became known for her lack of objectivity on matters nuclear.

    “Dr. Alfred Körblein (Munich Institute for the Environment) had already drawn the wrath of the establishment upon himself by disrespectfully and carefully reading the renowned studies from the Cancer Registry in Mainz (Director: Prof. Dr. Jörg Michaelis) on cancer incidence in the vicinity of German nuclear power plants and coming to very different results than Michaelis and the Minister for the Environment at the time, Angela Merkel. The resoluteness of Körblein and the coherence of his arguments have played a great part in prompting a new analysis of cancer incidence in the vicinity of German nuclear power plants.”

    http://www.chernobylcongress.org/fileadmin/user_upload/pdfs/chernob_report_2011_en_web.pdf

    This by the recently deceased Dr Ernest Sternglass is possibly the most appalling and cynical collusion between the nuclear industry, its captive regulators and government I have come across.

    “Thus, it was possible to direct milk shipments from farms close to nuclear plants into the inner city areas where few White people lived, in the hope that dilution at the dairies and processing facilities would make any adverse effects on human health statistically undetectable.”

    http://www.leurenmoret.info/waves/hidden-genocide-by-dr-ernes.html

    In the meantime while awaiting death I would avoid snow, rain, piles of leaves etc. The only upside is that the indebted have no incentive and no sane reason to continue paying.

    Keep an eye on the Boone Dam too, lots of GE mk1 reactors sitting downstream from a large dam which is collapsing.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/11/alert-and-warning-tennessee-boone-dam-is-leaking-from-a-sinkhole-under-the-dam-with-nuclear-reactors-downstream-video-highly-alarming-3055430.html

    At least Something is alive in the oceans but for how much longer?

    http://optimalprediction.com/wp/tumors-in-sea-turtles-japan/

  • Clark

    John Goss, OK, I’ll try a different question.

    Are you deliberately trying to help the government of Russia?

  • Clark

    Macky, what about this question:

    Are you deliberately trying to help the Russian government?

    Herbie, I’ll ask you, too.

  • Herbie

    “Herbie, no I’m not trying to advance the banking agenda of “the West”. I wouldn’t do that.”

    But surely there’s a danger of that, even if it’s not your intention.

  • RobG

    @Lysias
    2 Mar, 2015 – 11:46 pm

    “I have, however, often had the unfortunate experience of having to eat Army food at various places at which I have been stationed during my military career.”

    ______________________

    Although these sort of blogs are now plagued with government vermin/agents, I’m sure that I don’t need to tell you not to be afraid of them.

    They are pathetic wankers.

    Breakfast stuff.

  • Clark

    Herbie, 12:32 am:

    “the West is not interested in democracy, human rights or sovereignty and territorial integrity”

    Yes I agree. Those matters are often used by the “West” as excuses for military dominance.

  • Clark

    Herbie, 12:53 am:

    “I’m trying to help humanity wake up, Clark.

    What’s your answer?”

    I don’t have an answer, but I suggest we start with personal honesty, disclosure, and facing the facts as best as we can determine them.

    One of the things that puts people off important matters is that so many parties distort or deny facts, and this causes distressing confusion.

  • Herbie

    The facts are that the West has an overriding agenda to dominate the globe. All its propaganda is directed towards fulfilling that agenda.

    Putin, even if he wanted, cannot have such an agenda. Russia just doesn’t have that ability. It needs to forge trading relations and they can only do that through mutual cooperation, and that’s what they’re doing.

    Basically, it’s the West is pushing an agenda and Putin is reacting to that.

    Even Massen allows that Putin is reactive. She thinks that’s a weakness. The truth is that that’s all he can do.

    Obama said something similar, when he was accused of being weaker than Putin.

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