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  • Dave

    @Clark
    It’s most likely I am a bit rusty on the subject. I did work in High energy particle physics and
    at the Rutherford lab in the 1960`s,it was quite a long time ago. I do have a renewed interest
    with regards to LENR and it is shown to be real effect due to the number of independent positive
    replications. Have you considered transmutation as a way neutralising radioactive by-products?
    I expect you have come across this site.http://www.euradcom.org/

  • Daniel

    This footage, although cobbled together by RT, was shot by ordinary Eastern Ukrainians before the referendum. It shows some of the incidents where civilians bravely stood up to the tanks. It also shows how they relieved some of the military from Kiev of their weapons. They will never stop fighting for their freedom.

    If it had been Tieneman Square or Hungary (1956), Czechoslovakia (1968) the BBC would never have stopped showing it. As it stands they have made the injured look like aggressors. But you can hear the voices of the people, who are not Russian, state exactly what they want, to be free of the Maidan, to be free of the fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvxgkIIIVio#t=32

    This analysis is correct. The mainstream media routinely misrepresent the people of Eastern Ukraine by falsely describing them as “Russian separatists” or “terrorists” when in truth they are federalists who desire autonomy from both Russia and the Kiev Junta.

  • Clark

    Dave, thanks for the link, which I’ll visit when I’m not having to defend myself against astroturfed lies.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Ba’al Zevul 05/03/15 9:10 am

    Great article, thank you.

    If you are interested in approaches to psychotherapy and psychology which emphasize the importance of social and economic circumstances you may well appreciate the work of the clinical psychologist David Smail, who died in 2014, a great loss to the psychotherapeutic profession.

    David Smail’s approach was highly unusual among contemporary psychotherapists, in taking full account of the obvious fact that most psychological misery is caused by material deprivation and uncertainty, and economic power relations in society, very little of which the individual experiencing the distress can do anything about. Most contemporary psychotherapy focuses upon the self, or the self within a web of personal relationships, because that is what the therapist and the client can work with. Smail thought this ignored the fundamental problem of the client being caught within a much more intractable web of social and economic relationships of unequal power, and ignored it because it was in the interests of the psychotherapeutic profession to do so. Highly recommended.

    http://www.davidsmail.info/introfra.htm

    Kind regards,

    John

  • Mark Golding

    We know snipers fired at BOTH police and protesters in Ukraine during the Maidan riots. Who these marksman assassins were is an interesting question. A analogous question might who shot down MH17 or who was shot dead at Canary Wharf on 7th July 2007?

    In the case of Ukraine we can take account of history(ie Libya, Syria Egypt, Thailand, Russia, Belgium Gladio) and then use Occum’s Razor to deduce when secretive snipers kill both protesters and the police, it is an indication of ‘false flag’ attacks meant to sow chaos, anger, disgust and a lack of legitimacy.

    F. William Engdahl believes the stakes involve the very future of Russia, the EU-Russian relations, and the global power of Washington, or at least the Neo-Con faction controlling Washington that sees further wars as the prime instrument of policy.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-secretive-neo-nazi-military-organization-involved-in-euromaidan-snyper-shootings/5371611?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ukraine-secretive-neo-nazi-military-organization-involved-in-euromaidan-snyper-shootings

    Some of the most damning evidence of Maidan involvement in the massacre comes from an extremely thorough, on-the-ground investigation by a German television station. The television report makes a very convincing case that most (if not all) of the sniper victims were shot from behind—and from buildings which were completely under the control of Maidan protesters (the Conservatory and Hotel Ukraina, among others). The German investigative team interviews a forensics expert, a doctor who treated wounded protestors and police, and even a lawyer representing relatives of the victims—all of whom raise serious questions about the official narrative (a handful of blood-thirsty Berkut officers operating under orders from Yanukovych, who had just cut a deal with Maidan leaders).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew9NPPtYScY

    http://www.academia.edu/8776021/The_Snipers_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine

  • Mary

    Have you noticed that:

    Greece and Syriza have gone off the radar?

    Ditto the allegations against Prince Andrew.

    How does that happen? 🙂

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Appeal to any pyschologists or psychiatrists among the readers.

    ““You are all in a concentration camp, and you don’t even realise it.”

    It’s true. It will get worse. At the moment you can say what you want, pretty well, and walk around freely, pretty well”

    ________________

    What is the correct term for the sort of statement put out by Mr Goss, as reproduced above?

    He appears to be saying that we are in a concentration camp AND that we can say what we want and walk about freely.

    Is it just me or is there some hyperbolic contradiction in what Mr Goss claims?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    In fact, was Mr Goss having one of his famous “moments” when he wrote that?

  • Daniel

    “Ah, I’ve seen the light. Yes, the Kremlin and the Russian oligarchy is full of fluffy little innocent kittens.

    There is only ONE aggressor, THE aggressor is, of course, NATO. Gazprom never turned off Ukraine’s gas in winter, never enforced trade embargoes to pull Ukraine into line. Why would they, dear little darlings.

    Yes, I’m all for the establishment, me. I really approve of massive NATO military spending. NOT.

    Half of Ukraine MUST be incorporated into Russia or those fluffy Kremlin kittens might nuke us! Oh, hang on – no, no contradiction there…”

    Where have you got the strange idea that Putin supposedly wants to incorporate Ukraine into Russia?

    A third of the population of Ukraine desire autonomy and independence from Russia. But they are also resisting the attempts of the Junta in Kiev to deny them federalism. Most of the people in the East are not “separatists” as often depicted in the media, but citizens who want to live securely in their homeland and oppose the power grab in Kiev.

    Their revolt and establishment of autonomous “states” is a reaction to the U.S proxy Kiev’s (and by extension, NATO’s) attacks on them. I can only presume you have been brainwashed by Western propaganda to the extent that you refuse to accept the well established fact that the Kiev Junta dispatched its storm troopers in order to wage war on a domestic population.

    The catalyst for Putin’s defensive actions was Nuland’s coup that did not go to plan. Following the overthrow of the democratically elected president of Ukraine, the West planned to grab Crimea’s warm-water naval base. Putin’s hand was thus forced. His subsequent illegal annexation of the territory pre-emptied Nato’s planned move.

    Putin’s annexation of Crimea prompted the Kiev regime transgressions towards the people in the East of Ukraine with the ferocity of ethnic cleansing. As John Pilger put it:

    “They [the Kiev Junta] deployed neo-Nazi militias in the manner of the Waffen-SS, they bombed and laid to siege cities and towns. They used mass starvation as a weapon, cutting off electricity, freezing bank accounts, stopping social security and pensions. More than a million refugees fled across the border into Russia. In the western media, they became unpeople escaping ‘the violence’ caused by the “Russian invasion”.

    On January 29, Ukraine’s top military commander, General Viktor Muzhemko, told a news conference emphatically: “The Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian Army”. There were “individual citizens” who were members of ‘illegal armed groups’, but there was no Russian invasion.”

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “Ex-Conservative MP Harvey Proctor’s home searched by police
    The home of former Conservative MP Harvey Proctor has been searched by police investigating historical allegations of child abuse.”
    _______________

    At last! Mary – the children’s friend (especially if they’re P

  • lysias

    The Independent: Westminster paedophile scandal: Former MP Harvey Proctor denies being part of ‘rent-boy ring with cabinet ministers’:

    Proctor, who became MP from 1979 to 1987, was previously fined £1450 after admitting to four acts of gross indecency with two rent boys under the age of 21 in 1986. Three counts involved a 17-year-old between 1 June and 31 August. The fourth happened on 11 April involving a 19-year-old.

    Operation Midland are also examining allegations three young men were murdered, linked to the abuse in Westminster, which Proctor said he knows “nothing about”.

    He added he had no knowledge about a high-profile paedophile ring in Westminster and had he known he would have reported it to police.

    “I am sure some of the allegations (against others) are true but I am sure a lot of allegations are pure and utter fantasy,” he said.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Palestinian children) – has finally woken up.

    We finally have a post from her about child abuse.

    But about a former Conservative MP, of course, and not about the gangs of groomers, rapists, beaters and child-traffickers of “Pakistani heritage” as the BBC so delicately puts it.

    Naturally.

  • lysias

    Sorry. That Proctor story is from the International Business Times, not The Independent.

  • Clark

    Some comments need refuting.

    John Goss, 12:48 pm:

    “You clearly did not read that excellent article which Macky posted.”

    Yes I did. I found it so informative that I uploaded a copy to my server. It is the article I posted two sections from specifically to refute some of Macky’s claims. It is the article I referred to in Macky’s dishonest comment at 1:20 pm and in my reply at 2:23 pm. You need to read more than the title and the section headings, which give a misleading impression.

    Macky’s comment at 1:10 pm misleadingly groups together myself, Craig and “pro-establishment posters here”. Macky doesn’t specify who that last group refers to, but it is wrong to call either myself or Craig “pro-establishment”. Macky doesn’t specify which views of Pilger and Chomsky and “every leading Left/Liberal commentator/analyst” she’s accusing us of disagreeing with, but I for one don’t consider them “all just Kremlin dupes or stooges”. Such misrepresentation by Macky is disappointingly recurrent. Macky then asks:

    “Do you believe that the US does really engineer Coups, or that they didn’t hi-jack/subvert any of the Arab Springs ?”

    Yes I believe the US has engaged in many such interventions, from operation Ajax against Iran through to the recent coup in Egypt, and many examples in South America. The events in Kiev contain elements of such an operation, but the Kremlin appears to bear considerable responsibility too, and has certainly taken advantage of the subsequent events, as has NATO and the US.

    Macky routinely misrepresenting others’ opinions including mine and Craig’s. She miscasts those who don’t repeat the Kremlin narrative as “pro-establishment” and then attacks opinions that are not in fact held – a straw man argument, and intellectually dishonest.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    John Spencer-Davis, thanks for that. Will read when I have more time, but looks like a sound starting-point.

  • Daniel

    Clark, I find it hard to understand how Macky can cast both you and Craig as pro-establishment, so I agree with you in that regard. I can only think that it’s ideologically based.

  • Herbie

    “Clark, I find it hard to understand how Macky can cast both you and Craig as pro-establishment”

    It’s possible.

    Oftentimes disputes are between establishment elites.

    One is merely taking the side of one or the other, but one fully supports elite rule.

    Not saying this applies, but it’s possible.

  • Daniel

    Herbie,

    I follow the comments section of this blog closely, and I see no evidence that either are pro-establishment.

  • Republicofscotland

    Another Lord Ashcroft poll, appears to show London Labour in Scotland, are on course for an absolute thrashing, by losing upwards of 50 seats.

    Even Mad Jim Murphy’s seat of East Renfrewshire,could fall to the SNP. Other traitor, held seats, I mean unionist seats, that look set to topple are Charles Kennedy’s and even the lone Tory seat of David Mundell’s could go, and the old Panda joke would, be twice as funny.

  • John Goss

    “. . . , but the Kremlin appears to bear considerable responsibility too, and has certainly taken advantage of the subsequent events, as has NATO and the US.”

    But you never provide any evidence of this Kremlin involvement. All Putin and Lavrov have ever tried to do is engineer peace. The Minsk protocol was Putin’s. It was only when Kiev forces were surrounded in the Debaltsevo Cauldron that Merkel and Hollande brought Poroshenko to the table again (having broken the agreement the first time). They want gas supplies to remain normal. But what is Poroshenko doing now? The country is broke, wages have not been paid, the infrastructure is badly damaged, people are homeless and starving, and all Poroshenko is doing is buying up more “defensive” weapons for when he starts round two. He is a natural born liar. What do you expect of an oligarch? The first thing he said he would do was bring peace to the Donbas. The next day after his election he was bombarding Eastern Ukraine. The great tub of chocolate lard is evil through and through. “Our man in Ukraine” the Yanks called him.

  • Republicofscotland

    So David Cameron is on the run, when it come to manning up, to a face to face debate with Ed Miliband. It is of course to the advantage of the incumbent, to run around the boxing ring, avoiding a possible left hook, from Labour, though to be honest, Labour and the word left, have no place whatsoever, in the same sentence.

  • Herbie

    “I follow the comments section of this blog closely, and I see no evidence that either are pro-establishment.”

    I know. That’s the obvious assumption.

    But if the Establishment’s agenda is the monetizing of the planet, and one assists them in aspects of that program, then that would amount, I suppose, to support, however ignorantly given.

    It’s classic divide and rule of local interests in the service of unknown larger interests.

    But, there’s no reason not to see see the big picture these days.

    NATO have just failed in their latest coup in Venezuela. They’re at it everywhere.

    The Ukraine is just another version of this.

    Don’t get bogged down in the details, until you understand the bigger picture.

    And then, in light of that bigger picture you’ll get a better understanding of the details.

  • Daniel

    “…but the Kremlin appears to bear considerable responsibility too…..”

    Will you please elaborate further on your contention that the Kremlin “appears” to bear considerable responsibility for the coup in Ukraine?

  • Republicofscotland

    Even with a sustainable ceasefire active in Ukraine, the US top brass is nursing schemes of arming Kiev troops with lethal aid, while the US president has prolonged anti-Russian sanctions introduced a year ago in connection with the Ukraine crisis.

    It’s the first time that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, has spoken out in favor of supplying Kiev troops with American weapons.

    The anti-Russian news organization Bloomberg, owned by the former Mayor of Wall Street, Michael Bloomberg, says in a March 3rd editorial about Ukraine, that Only swift and radical debt relief can help the country out of its economic quagmire, and that since such debt relief can’t likely be negotiated, a complete write-off is what creditors will have to consider as their best alternative to a negotiated agreement.

    A top general condoning the use of lethal force in Ukraine, combined with Bloomberg, calling for a right-off of Ukrainian debt.

    Is Ukraine about to become, a killing field for both west and east, will the super powers play out their bloody game, of death, on the streets of the country.

  • lysias

    The circus: How British intelligence primed both sides of the ‘terror war’:

    Yet according to former British counterterrorism intelligence officer Charles Shoebridge, despite this risk, authorities “turned a blind eye to the travelling of its own jihadists to Syria, notwithstanding ample video etc. evidence of their crimes there,” because it “suited the US and UK’s anti-Assad foreign policy”.

    This terror-funnel is what enabled people like Emwazi to travel to Syria and join up with IS – despite being on an MI5 terror watch-list. He had been blocked by the security services from traveling to Kuwait in 2010: why not Syria? Shoebridge, who was a British Army officer before joining the Metropolitan Police, told me that although such overseas terrorism has been illegal in the UK since 2006, “it’s notable that only towards the end of 2013 when IS turned against the West’s preferred rebels, and perhaps also when the tipping point between foreign policy usefulness and MI5 fears of domestic terrorist blowback was reached, did the UK authorities begin to take serious steps to tackle the flow of UK jihadists.”

    The US-UK direct and tacit support for jihadists, Shoebridge said, had made Syria the safest place for regional terrorists fearing drone strikes “for more than two years”. Syria was “the only place British jihadists could fight without fear of US drones or arrest back home… likely because, unlike if similar numbers of UK jihadists had been travelling to for example Yemen or Afghanistan, this suited the anti-Assad policy.”

    Having watched its own self-fulfilling prophecy unfold with horrifying precision in a string of IS-linked terrorist atrocities against Western hostages and targets, the government now exploits the resulting mayhem to vindicate its bankrupt “counter-extremism” narrative, promoted by hand-picked state-groomed “experts” like Husain and Nawaz.

  • Daniel

    “I know. That’s the obvious assumption.

    But if the Establishment’s agenda is the monetizing of the planet, and one assists them in aspects of that program, then that would amount, I suppose, to support, however ignorantly given.

    It’s classic divide and rule of local interests in the service of unknown larger interests.

    But, there’s no reason not to see see the big picture these days.

    NATO have just failed in their latest coup in Venezuela. They’re at it everywhere.

    The Ukraine is just another version of this.

    Don’t get bogged down in the details, until you understand the bigger picture.

    And then, in light of that bigger picture you’ll get a better understanding of the details.”

    My comment at 4.01 pm ought to make it clear to you that I DO understand the bigger picture. The fact is, that the events in Venezuela and elsewhere are irrelevant in deducing whether or not Clark is pro-establishment. The accusation against him was that he is pro-establishment on the basis that he questions certain narratives. This is a straw man argument.

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