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  • Daniel

    “Ironic as a much employed US CIA analyst, with a life time experience of such matters, is on record as stating that the Kiev Coup was “the most blatant coup in history” no less !”

    Indeed. I honestly fail to understand how anybody looking at this rationally and objectively could arrive at a conclusion not consistent with the position taken by Statfor.

  • Macky

    Clark; “but I for one don’t consider them “all just Kremlin dupes or stooges”.”

    So it’s just me, Herbie, John Goss & others here that you smear as “You lot are just Kremlin trolls”, even though our take on the Ukraine situation is exactly the same as many, many leading commentators, including the ones I specifically mentioned.

    Clark; “but the Kremlin appears to bear considerable responsibility too, and has certainly taken advantage of the subsequent events, as has NATO and the US”

    As Daniel as already requested, please elaborate iro Russia.

  • Daniel

    “Doug, I think Fred likes you.”

    The absence of “rim-licking spastic” indicates a mark of respect.

  • RobG

    Nope, still no mention of Section 1021 of the NDAA, which was originally passed into law on New Year’s Eve 2011, when Obama thought that no one would be looking.

    It seems as though he was right.

  • Clark

    Oh, another thing anyone can try; hunt around Google “Satellite View” and find some ACTUAL combine harvesters. Zoom in to verify that they aren’t artillery, then zoom out to get the resolution the same as the photographs of Ukraine. Compare.

    You can see the big crop collection assembly on a real combine harvester. It’s fucking huge, and makes a distinctive T shape. Artillery don’t have them.

  • RobG

    Daniel, I’m not sure how certain posters here can get away with blue murder, whilst others are censored for minor stuff.

    But there you go.

  • Clark

    Herbie, I’m not going to start believing or repeating LIES AND DECEPTION even if you’re right about bankers.

    “Mental health is an ongoing process of dedication to reality at all costs”

    M Scott Peck, psychiatrist.

  • RobG

    Ohh, that seems to have worked, but I do rather tend to back-up my point of view with rational and links that hopefully most people will find credible.

  • fred

    “Doug, I think Fred likes you.”

    Don’t think retard stick to something you’re good at.

    Now fuck off.

  • Clark

    I’m almost ready to give this thread my attention again; in the meantime, a quick straw poll.

    Who here believes that we should be honest and accurate, and who here believes that it’s acceptable, or even preferable, to project propaganda and deception to counter propaganda and deception?

  • John Goss

    “Please, no one else do this for John. He has to do it himself to prove that no one is tricking him.”

    This is the first one I found. It is a commercial satellite company. Are you telling me that commercial satellites are of a higher standard than the military? But I have known for some time that the US has been able to zoom in, and even read number plates, since the nineties.

    http://www.satimagingcorp.com/satellite-sensors/quickbird/

  • fred

    “Fred, you are becoming a parody of yourself! (but I know you are a nice person).”

    Which part of “fuck off” didn’t you understand retard?

  • Macky

    RobG; “Daniel, I’m not sure how certain posters here can get away with blue murder, whilst others are censored for minor stuff.”

    It’s probably passed the Mod’s bedtime, but don’t be surprised to see your posts removed, but not Fred’s, as he’s an old favourite here, and is treated different as are other old favourites.

  • RobG

    The government/Habba is not here to steer the conversation at the moment.

    Habba is probably having his 19th nervous breakdown.

    Feel sorry for Habba.

    I don’t.

    Maybe some of you will.

  • John Goss

    “Who here believes that we should be honest and accurate, and who here believes that it’s acceptable, or even preferable, to project propaganda and deception to counter propaganda and deception?”

    It looks like you made this up about Google satellite images.

    “You can’t get detailed images like the ones on Google from low earth orbit, and those ones showing traffic and pedestrians are aerial photographs, taken from aircraft and not from satellite.”

  • Dave

    It was most likely a CIA putsch in Kiev. It`s their style.

    The CIA supported and helped the murder of about five million human beings in Indonesia.

    Allen Lawrence Pope CIA Wiki

    “I’m a communist fighter. I was born and raised to be against the communists.”
    On Indonesia.

    “I enjoyed killing Communists… They said Indonesia was a failure[, Al Pope reflected bitterly]. But we knocked the shit out of them. We killed thousands of Communists, even though half of them probably didn’t even know what Communism meant.”

  • RobG

    Thanks for the info, Macky.

    I’m a newbie in these parts, but my immediate impression is that this blog is a great source of information, yet at the same time trolls are freely allowed to roam here, and try to take over.

    That won’t happen.

  • fred

    “This is the first one I found. It is a commercial satellite company. Are you telling me that commercial satellites are of a higher standard than the military? But I have known for some time that the US has been able to zoom in, and even read number plates, since the nineties.”

    How does that work?

    Presumably the satellites aren’t geostationary because their altitudes would be far too great so they must be orbiting and taking surveillance pictures on each pass. If they were taking zoomed in photos they would only be able to cover a very small area, it would take days to survey a narrow strip.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Dave 05/03/2015 9:58 pm

    Paul Johnson (remember that lovely man?) in his modestly named “A History of the Modern World” gives an account of the Indonesian genocide in which he makes a straight-faced reference to “Communist women and children” being massacred. The idea of “Communist children” always struck me as a remarkable conception.

    Kind regards,

    John

  • Daniel

    “Who here believes that we should be honest and accurate, and who here believes that it’s acceptable, or even preferable, to project propaganda and deception to counter propaganda and deception?”

    I don’t believe there are any commentators on here who don’t regard themselves as anything other than honest and accurate. Or put it this way, I don’t think there is a single poster on here who deliberately sets out to deceive or obfuscate. Yes, there may be some who engage in self-deception but that’s another issue. So your first question is moot. In terms of your second question, I can’t see that anybody on here would openly admit to deceiving and deliberately projecting false propaganda as the means of countering perceived propaganda and deception, so again, I can’t what your question hopes to achieve.

  • Resident Dissident

    @Herbie

    “It’s not their interest. Their primary interest is the Western plan. That’s why Putin was taking on the oligarchs. They’ve submerged their primary interest to the good of the whole.

    Putin is attempting to build a state where the competing interests are represented.”

    Good we have some evidence for these assertions.

  • Dave

    @RobG

    “ I’m sure I don’t need to point out that some of the best minds on the planet have been trying to crack fusion power for a very, very long time now, and what’s known as ‘cold fusion’has a very rocky history.”
    Do your research before you come out with static statements they gather dust.
    We have cracked it Rob. You should check out some of the Heads at MIT and Cambridge.
    Renewables are are a waste space. The cost alone is ridiculous compared with LENR which
    uses a gram of nickel powder and a dash of hydrogen. It`s a no brainer.

  • Resident Dissident

    I’ll shall take Evgeni advice on arguing with idiots, whose noise to substance ratio appears to be reaching new levels.

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