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  • Clark

    The reason Macky can see her car in such detail on Google Earth is that the higher resolution images are taken from aircraft. Satellite pictures cannot achieve such resolution. The link that Macky has supplied provides evidence for this. Follow Macky’s link:

    https://www.google.ru/maps/@52.2291388,21.0109434,180a,20y,41.71t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=de

    Note the position of the traffic. Now zoom in one click. Note that you are now seeing different images, at a different time and differnt angle, but of the same place. That’s because Google Maps transferred your view from a satellite image to and aerial photograph.

    Macky’s experience and the images on sott.net do not invalidate the NATO satellite images. That does not prove that the NATO images are authentic.

  • technicolour

    Ahh, nurse, do give us your prescription to enable us to see the “big picture”. What I see is rather a lot of reasoned analysis from Clark and others, demonstrating that the game players in both ‘sides’ have no usual human scruples. When you command armies, I imagine they’re hard to find.

  • Macky

    @Technicolour, it’s will be cruel to mock the afflicted, so carry on posting your inane gibberish; you are only embarrassing yourself.

    Clark; “Untrue. Macky, mistake or lie?”

    Niether, obviously the person who put the sott.net image together probably has a better graphic software package then you have.

  • Clark

    Herbie, is my reasoning above evil? Do I deserve to be smeared for it? Does it show that I’m “supporting fascists”?

    Why didn’t you answer any of my questions about Gazprom?

  • Herbie

    “By supporting Putin and the Russian oligarchs all you do is long for another insane self serving elite to replace the one that ails you now.”

    You’ve been repeating this nonsense for a while now, Phil.

    It’s bollocks of course but you don’t understand that because you can’t do joined up thinking either.

    Your thinking is binary, wee and local.

    And that’s when it’s not completely nihilist.

    It’s the rest of the world, I support.

    Russia just happens to have the only military who can hold off NATO and their banker chums.

    Russia won’t take over the world. They’ll have to submerge themselves in mutual economic relations with other players.

    NATO just kills and dominates. That’s all it knows. That’s their only economics.

  • Clark

    Macky, 9:25 pm; untrue. The images are not sent in a higher resolution than they are displayed. To do so would waste bandwidth for both Google and the users, and would slow down page loading time.

  • Herbie

    If you think that Russia shouldn’t protect itself from NATO, then just say so, Clark.

  • technicolour

    Macky, you are clearly capable of writing in short, relatively clear, sentences. If you think your comments on various subjects are important, which I presume you do, then I suggest you also write them in a way which is clear and understandable. Otherwise your writing (and this is a writing blog) becomes an unpleasant and confusing mess.

  • Phil

    Macky
    “probably has a better graphic software package then you have”

    Would that be the “unlimited paid-for, ultra logical, big picture image viewer – combine harvester edition”?

    Or do you simply not understand that in web graphics pixels are pixels are pixels?

  • Phil

    Herbie

    So, apart from defending the murderer Putin online, what do you actually do to challenge the “bankers” you so loath in the name of the rest of the world?

  • technicolour

    “If you think that Russia shouldn’t protect itself from NATO”

    and therein lies the rub. I do not need to protect myself from my friend Galya in Moscow, nor she herself from me. All this whiffle, and it plays into the hands of those few on both sides deliberately making a profit – economic or power – from death and destruction.

  • Clark

    Technicolour and Phil. I find it almost impossible to believe that Herbie and Macky comment here in good faith. They are impervious to reasoning. And they wish to dominate, to belittle and do psychological harm. Look at all these, collected from their last few comments:

    “Silly song & dance, foolishness, ignorance, you can only do wee stuff, afflicted, inane gibberish, embarrassing, bollocks, can’t do joined up thinking, your thinking is binary, wee and local, completely nihilist”

    I think these people, who refuse to show any real-world identity, must have an ulterior motive.

  • Phil

    Herbie
    “Your thinking is binary, wee and local. And that’s when it’s not completely nihilist. It’s the rest of the world, I support.”

    You support the rest of the world! What meaningless drivel.

    Again I will say I oppose the domination of NATO. I take real action in the real world opposing the elites in our part of the world.

    What do you do Herbie?

  • Clark

    Herbie, 9:34 pm:

    “If you think that Russia shouldn’t protect itself from NATO, then just say so, Clark”

    Herbie, judging from the dishonest and aggressive behaviour of propagandists like you and Macky, I think NATO should probably protect itself from Russian military power.

  • Herbie

    Phil

    “So, apart from defending the murderer Putin online”

    I’ve explained a number of times now, the much broader dynamics involved.

    It’s quite difficult to engage meaningfully with someone so willfully stupid.

  • Herbie

    “I think NATO should probably protect itself from Russian military power.”

    Thanks for that, Clark.

    Now we know.

    No point wasting further time on your pretense to a concern for world humanity.

    Stick to staring at the stars, there’s a good lad.

  • Clark

    Phil, thank you for your humour and Technicolour, thank you for your compassion. Thank you both for your good sense.

  • lysias

    That NATO should protect itself from Russia (and I don’t see why the behavior of posters on the Net should imply that) most definitely does not imply that Russia should not protect itself from NATO.

  • Tony M

    The Big Answer is the answer to the question:- Who Started It?

    Then to say time to put the toys away, salve the injured, sling the dead.

    NATO members combined DO control the IMF, the US has a fixed 18% share of vote, guaranteeing their veto over policy and with that IMF submission to US executive control. NATO is the banker’s enforcement, their heavies sent round.

    Where can I change a 10,000 rouble note?

    Whiffle? Whattle?

  • Phil

    Herbie, Macky, Tony M

    You’ve been all superior spouting shit at Clark telling him he supports the bankers. Yet I have seen him on real world actions, actions that take real nerve, opposing these bastards you oh so bravely bad mouth anonymously online. In respect of fighting power he’s worth a 1000 of you wind bags.

  • Clark

    Herbie and Macky, I recognise manipulation when I meet it. You pro-Kremlin commenters are manipulators. You complement all those who align with your objectives, insult and deride all who contradict them.

    Trying to manipulate another’s thoughts is a very intimate form of abuse, possibly the most intimate.

  • Phil

    The big picture, logical image viewer- combined harvester edition. Bought to you in support of the rest of the world by windbags.

  • Macky

    Herbie; “NATO just kills and dominates. That’s all it knows. That’s their only economics.”

    Not sure if you are aware, but posters first challenged Craig on his position on the Ukraine issue, he didn’t respond to the points at all, but immediately lashed out calling people “Putinistas”, implied they were self-hating Westerners, even BNP supporters !! When I remarked about these smears, he asked me why I chose a “side” on this issue, whilst stating that “Putin is the greater evil.”, so inferring the reason why he chose a “side”; so yes you are right NATO is just an imperial killing machine, but for some people, if the person who resists this killing machine is called Putin, then in their counter-reality scale of the “Greater Evil”, NATO has to be supported !

    @Clark, so no answer why there is no clear evidence for all these “Russian Invasion” ? No answer as to why people would have to fake photographic evidence to show “proof” of such Russian invasions ?

  • Clark

    Lysias, yes. Until we have effective, enforceable international rule of law, countries will have to protect themselves from each other.

  • technicolour

    No, you explained the ‘broader dynamics’? What were they, again? From a cursory reading they were: West bankers bad, Russian bankers good (or non-existent); anyone arguing for rationality supports bad West bankers. Have fun with that one.

  • Herbie

    Phil

    Not much point fighting them on the streets, then handing them intellectual capital in the forum of world opinion.

    That’s at least a bit confused, eh.

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