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  • glenn

    RoS Wrote, “Mr Goss doesn’t even register on the scale compared to the privileged parasites, wouldn’t you agree?”

    I would agree.

    Michael Moore wrote on the subject of “Welfare Mothers” (a class of scrounger being then (as now) demonised by the fascist right in America). In particular, there was a famous “Welfare Queen” which Saint Ronnie of Reagan ranted on about, in his denunciation of a particular Cadillac-driving black woman cruising around collecting her cheques (or “checks” as they’d have it), which then entered American folklore. *

    This is an extract from his book “Downsize This!” in 1997 (back when a $billion was a fair amount of money) :

    “p50
    I hate welfare mothers. Lazy, shiftless, always trying to get something for nothing. They expect the rest of us to take care of them instead of getting off their collective ass and taking care of themselves. Always looking for a handout, they simply expect us average, hardworking, decent taxpayers to underwrite their illicit behavior as they churn ’em out, one after the other. How long are we going to tolerate Big Business acting this way?

    Each year, freeloading corporations grab nearly $170 billion in tax-funded federal handouts to help them do the things they should be paying for themselves (and that doesn’t even count all the corporate welfare they’re getting from state and local governments. That’s $1,388 a year from each of us going to provide welfare to the rich!

    By contrast, all of our social programs combined, from Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) to school lunches to housing assistance, amount to just $50 billion a year. That breaks down to $415 a year-or just $1.14 a day from each of us.

    So why is it that when we say the word welfare, the first image that comes to mind is the single mother with a half-dozen kids living in the inner city? Aside from the fact that it’s racist, it also isn’t true. According to the U.S. government, the majority of welfare recipients are white, live in the suburbs, have two kids, want to work, and stay on welfare an average of only two years. These people, down on their luck, deserve whatever help and respect we can give them.

    It’s easy to get all worked up about a mythical bunch of “cheaters” and “chiselers” out there taking us for a ride. Especially during these times when we’re all so scared about making our own house payment, it doesn’t seem to take a whole lot of convincing to turn us against the less fortunate in our society.

    Maybe we should be directing our anger elsewhere- like toward Wall Street. Why is it we never think of Big Business when we think of welfare recipients? Companies take more of our tax dollars, and in much more questionable ways, than do those who are trying to heat their apartments with a kerosene stove.

    This “ADC”-Aid to Dependent Corporation comes in many forms. Much of it is just outright cash. Other ADC opportunities come by way of generous tax breaks and exemptions that you and I do not get. Still more welfare is dished out through governmental goods and services at low or no cost. And, trust me, it ain’t surplus rancid cheese these guys are having to stand in line for once a month.”

    ———–

    (*The “Welfare Queen” Reagan described did not exist, although references have since been made about some social security fraudsters who happened to be both female and black, in the hope of providing cover for Reagan’s racist poor-bashing. But Reagan’s point was about the high life being experienced by everyday recipients of welfare, and was outrageously dishonest.)

  • Republicofscotland

    Clarke.

    reading some of your comments over the past 2 or 3 threads. It would appear either you’re going through the menopause, or you’re cracking up.

    Your range of emotions, have went from despair to anger, and back again.

    Getting involved with the government shill, in condemnation of Mr Goss, may well just tip you over the edge.

  • Republicofscotland

    “But I’ll make sure [John Goss] doesn’t get allowed into Poland again”

    I’ll accept that you have that power. Who are you? I’m surprised you didn’t get that “Friend Request” from Brian Barder!
    ________________________________

    Clarke.

    You’re above statement really does show your naivety, as if Habb, would reveal who he really is on this blog.

    Of course Clarke, your innocent charm might just do the trick, but who he? is and why is he’s so establishment orientated on this blog? should give you a reasonable idea, of where he’s coming from.

  • Mary

    Ref the burning alive post – a la troll. 7.05pm

    Here are some other examples that Glenn Greenwald has collected. Quite a list and all horrific and atrocious.

    The Intercept
    Feb. 4, 2015

    Burning Victims to Death: Still a Common Practice
    By Glenn Greenwald

    ‘The latest ISIS atrocity – releasing a video of a captured Jordanian fighter pilot being burned alive – prompted substantial discussion yesterday about this particular form of savagery. It is thus worth noting that deliberately burning people to death is achievable – and deliberately achieved – in all sorts of other ways.’

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/04/burning-victims-death-still-common-practice/

  • RobG

    Glenn, very well said.

    I believe it’s true that the amount of money unclaimed in social security benefits (in the UK) is much larger than the amount of money that is actually claimed. People don’t know what they are entitled to, and they are entitled to it because they have paid taxes.

    But instead we get the neo-con comic book stuff about ‘welfare scroungers’, a deceit that unfortunately many people fall for.

    What about that vast amount of money that people don’t claim for, because they are purposely not told about it, money that goes into the pockets of the self same vermin who bang on about welfare scroungers.

  • Mary

    In the same style of Jack Straw in Blackburn but this is Bradford where Labour have not produced a candidate to stand against GG in Bradford West.

    Is Labour scared of George Galloway?
    It is three months until the general election and the Labour party still hasn’t chosen a candidate to fight Bradford West. Oona King’s former aide is among the contenders, alongside an ex lord mayor. Meanwhile, the Respect MP is ramping up his re-election campaign. Helen Pidd reports

    ‘Hussain, deputy leader of the council and a member of one of Bradford’s most powerful Kashmiri families, was determined to have a rematch with Galloway. He told the Guardian as much after being re-elected as a councillor last May. Last summer, before the AWS was imposed, his family invited the great and the good of Bradford West to an all expenses-paid banquet for 1,000 people as they attempted to drum up support for his campaign. Hussain told the Guardian on Wednesday it was an innocent “victory party” to celebrate his council re-election, though several attendees said it seemed more like a rally to get him selected as the prospective parliamentary candidate (PPC) for Bradford West.

    Foiled, he turned his attention to Bradford East, and was selected as PPC before Christmas. He will fight David Ward, the Liberal Democrat with a majority of just 365, who lost his party whip for making disparaging remarks about “the Jews” back in 2013.’

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/the-northerner/2015/feb/04/is-labour-scared-of-george-galloway

  • Ba'al Zevul

    The heir to the throne has started a six day tour of the Middle East. First stop Jordan. What’s that about?
    It’s about Daesh and arms sales.

    Do you think that Gaza is on the itinerary?

    Come off it. Can’t remember the PoW ever showing any interest in it. There are some things one simply doesn’t talk about if one wishes to retain certain of one’s friends.

  • Mary

    My question was rhetorical and to raise a laugh. 🙂

    ‘From Jordan, the Prince will fly on to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, all also close British allies but whose citizens and in Qatar’s case government have been accused of lending support to the worldwide jihadi movement.’ YCNMIU
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/jordan/11398232/Prince-of-Wales-in-show-of-support-for-Jordan-and-Middle-East-Christians.html

    His eldest son and the next in line has just had a spot of sunbathing in Mustique with wife and child and the in-laws. We were led to believe that he was gainfully employed as an air ambulance helicopter pilot.

  • Tim

    Are you suggesting that ambulance drivers should not be allowed to go on holiday? Or is it sunshine they are not allowed?

  • mike

    The EU, I think, know what’s at stake in Ukraine. But that won’t mean jack if the US want to keep needling Russia – the war will continue, if there are enough mercs and Nazis to keep fighting with US weapons. Things are so chaotic politically in Ukraine that the US may well have a direct line to some of the nasties shelling Donetsk and terrorising the “rebel” civilians.

    The corporate media will spin it as the EU besting Putin, but in actual fact they’ll all be hoping to cut the US out of the picture so that the killing stops.

  • RobG

    Not exactly breaking news, but I still think it’s important enough to put into this thread:

    http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5476/leon-brittan-buried-in-unmarked-grave-after-very-private-funeral

    Important, because not only has Exaro News been the only media organisation to seriously cover the Westminster child abuse scandal from the get go, but also because in recent weeks they’ve been the only media organisation to openly report the actual allegations against Brittan.

    The GCHQ trolls will no doubt admonish me for attacking an old man who died of cancer.

    But what about the children who were sexually abused and murdered, you vermin?

  • mike

    An unmarked grave? So the fucker was murdered to shut him up.

    It would be nice to elect a senior politician who isn’t a paedophile or war criminal. See what happens when you get boarded out at nine?

    That’s when they learn the abuse of power.

  • Mary

    BLiar will do all he can to help Miliband win the election. Headline in tomorrow’s Observer. The kiss of death.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “I’m waiting for your argument, habby.”
    __________________

    Quite simple, Herbie.

    You claim that I’m spouting “propaganda” and then go on to link – with seeming approval – to the propagandist Vineyardsaker.

    Got it now?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Tim

    I’m sure you haven’t missed the point that Mary considers everyone who questions her on this blog to be a troll.

    I recall that it only took about two posts of mine.

    She seems to think she has First Nation status on CM. 🙂

  • lysias

    Speaking of German opinion, I note that Udo Ulfkotte’s Gekaufte Journalisten [Bought Journalists is now a #1 bestseller in its category according to amazon.de, but the German media refuse to review or even mention it.

    Same thing has happened in the U.S. with respect to Jesse Ventura’s books on the JFK assassination and other government conspiracies.

  • RobG

    Trolls try to drown-out any conversation. That’s their job. Anyone who thinks that the likes of MR Murray wouldn’t attract the full attention of the complete psychos from the security services is naieve in the extreme,

    I’ll do a list, when I get a monent, of the vermin who post on this site.

  • Clark

    RobG, Craig has specifically asked, a number of times, that people address arguments rather than ascribing motives to commenters. I agree with him; such accusations are pointless, impossible to prove and just lead to escalating exchanges of insults.

  • Peacewisher

    What really gets me about the mm reporting of Ukraine is that they try to make out that the Donbass people, and some Russians, are… err… bombing the Donbass people.

    I’m with Herbie on this one!

  • RobG

    Nope, it’s all normal; no child abuse, no economic collapse, and everyone’s not dropping dead from cancer

    Carry on as usual…

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