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  • Mary

    Avoid Grosvenor House tomorrow like the plague. Noxious gases in the vicinity. Hedge fund tax exiles in proliferation and a multitude of Con MPs and ministers in attendance. You can often see donations of tickets to this money raising event in their registers of interests.

    It’s all Black and White. Almost like the US presidential candidate funding now.

    The super-rich helping to plan a glamorous Tory fundraiser
    Zoe Purvis, makeup artist to the rich, leads financiers’ and magnates’ spouses on organising committee of Black and White Ball to boost election coffers
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/07/tory-fundraiser-organised-by-super-rich-ball-zoe-purvis

    ‘Conservative party officials hope that the glitzy evening at Grosvenor House will be a major fundraiser ahead of May’s general election. Last year’s Black and White Ball attracted 570 guests worth £22bn, as well as David Cameron and at least 18 other ministers.

    It has been reported that prominent backers are being asked this year to “double up” on past contributions as the Tories seek at least £26m to fund their campaign leading to the general election in May. The ball has attracted controversy in the past because it has been an opportunity for the rich and powerful to have dinner with secretaries of state without having to disclose it to the public. The guest list is kept secret, as is the table plan.’

  • Peacewisher

    OK, Clark. I’m back.

    RD failed to tell you that Ukraine has fascists in their government, and their whole policy to the Donbass people is fascist. He also failed to tell you that the government has adopted Stephen Bandera as their hero/founding father… in case you didn’t know the Banderites were so extreme in their genocidal ideology that even the Nazis stopped working with them. He may also have neglected to inform you that their neighbour Poland is rewriting history to present the USSR as like the Nazis…that in 1945 they went from Nazi occupation to Soviet occupation.

    He is a propagandist (is that fair, RD?). He only seeks ways to promote his views. What alarms some of us is that this seems to align pretty well with a neo-con view that can only bring about ww3, and which they think they will win.

  • Mary

    Mr Unt would like the NHS to be run on the lines of the aircraft and the nuclear industries so that the number of avoidable deaths can be reduced.

    ‘“This is the biggest scandal in global healthcare. Why hasn’t the health service adopted the kinds of standards we now take for granted in the airline and nuclear industry?”’
    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/health-secretary-jeremy-hunt-orders-annual-review-of-avoidable-deaths-in-nhs-hospitals-10031528.html

    Psst! Don’t tell him about flights MH17 and MH370, the Transasia turboprop in Taiwan, South Korean Asiana Flight 214 getting the landing wrong at San Francisco, or about Sellafield/Windscale, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl or Fukushima.

  • Par for the course

    The way the false flaggers (GoT,USS Liberty not 911) are after Putin using the EU Romans, I am beginning to understand how they got Christ during Herod Romans time.

  • Republicofscotland

    Speaking of “Filthy fellows”
    ………………………

    The Ministry of Defence (MoD) is planning to spend £4.2 billion on replacing the Trident nuclear weapons system before the UK parliament has given it the go-ahead, according to a report from the government’s National Audit Office (NAO).
    ………………………

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/42bn-the-bill-for-replacing-trident-before-parliament-gives-go-ahead.117957911
    …………………….

    What a waste of taxpayers cash on weapons that in all honesty can’t really be used in anger, without, causing utter devastation.

  • Resident Dissident

    Peacewisher

    I’m no fan of Bandera whatsoever – but I do think you have garbled his history somewhat. This account from Timothy Snyder is rather more factual

    http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/feb/24/a-fascist-hero-in-democratic-kiev/

    As for the Poles in 1945 going from Nazi occupation to Soviet occupation – well didn’t they. I know a lot of Poles and they would not quibble too much with that.

    As for people supporting pacts with Hitler perhaps we should not forget this

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.625180

    And I don’t think anyone would win WW3 – and I’m not propgandising on behalf of anyone but myself.

  • Republicofscotland

    Oh I love this one, Fred’s unionist buddies and Electoral registered on the no camp for the independence referendum, and therefor a collaborator, all who voted no, the Orange Order are, well check it out for yourself.
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    THE Orange Order hired a Holocaust sceptic to help it defend the Union, it has emerged.
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    Glasgow-based McConnachie, 49, was barred from Ukip for saying he did not accept that the Nazis used gas chambers to kill Jews at Auschwitz.

    Both he and the Orange Order were registered as official No campaigners in the referendum.

    However it was not until last week, when the Electoral Commission published the Order’s spending receipts, that a direct link emerged.

    The paperwork shows McConnachie invoiced the Protestant movement for four months’ worth of work on social media, charging it £480 a month from June to September, a total of £1920.

    McConnachie was also paid £225 for flags, according to a petty cash chit dated September 11.

    Two days later the Order, which describes itself as “primarily a Christian and charitable fraternal organisation” held a massive march through Edinburgh in support of the Union.

    McConnachie also gave an article to the Orange Order’s No campaign website, British Together.

    The Sunday Herald revealed last May that McConnachie had become the first individual to register as an official referendum campaigner.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/orange-order-hired-auschwitz-sceptic-to-work-on-referendum-campaign.117942169

    Oh its so mouth watering, knowing Fred supported a unionist Electoral registered organisation that employed a Holocaust Denier, in fact all no voters did.

  • Mary

    I have failed to find out the cost to the state for the useless flu vaccination programme 2014/5.

    It was known as far back that the wrong vaccine had been created when a new strain that had emerged in Australia was found in this country.

    Doctors are now being told to use expensive anti viral drugs for vulnerable patients who develop the illness.

    NHS England
    Department of Health/Public Health England
    Flu Plan
    Winter 2014/15
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/306638/FluPlan2014_accessible.pdf

    5 February 2015
    Flu vaccine ‘barely effective’ against main viral strain
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31145604

  • Resident Dissident

    Par for the course

    Some might find the comparison of the treatment of Putin with that of Christ pretty obnoxious – fortunately I’m a fairly atheistic agnostic.

  • Mary

    ….It was known as far back as August that the wrong vaccine had been created when a new strain that had emerged in Australia was found in this country. …..

  • Resident Dissident

    “Oh its so mouth watering, knowing Fred supported a unionist Electoral registered organisation that employed a Holocaust Denier, in fact all no voters did.”

    And don’t you think that there may have been a few Holocaust deniers on the yes side as well? There were certainly some among its supporters here.

  • Republicofscotland

    In a sign of sheer and utter desperation, Jim (Blairite) Murphy has had a brain storm, or as its more commonly known, a meltdown.

    Mad Murphy has decided to use the YES word in his Labour campaign, in the run up to the GE. Mad Murphy saw how good it worked in a positive way, for the independence camp.

    Now Murphy after two and a half years of, working with the Tories to crush independence, has decided that the word YES will make him and his branch office of London Labour, somehow seem more appealing.

    It won’t.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/revealed-jim-murphy-will-try-to-turn-labour-into-party-of-yes.117966622

  • Mary

    Those discussing Ukraine might like sight of this.

    Weekend Edition February 6-8,2015
    On the Road to Mass Terror?
    When Ukrainians Choose Not to Die in a War
    by DMITRY KOLESNIK

    “Imagine all the people, living life in peace.” Maybe John Lennon’s famous musical lyric can be called naive, but it’s a hopeful vision all the same. Antiwar protests, mass soldier desertions, refusal to serve and fight in defiance of government orders and repression—these have stopped many wars once people decide there is nothing righteous in killing their fellow humans.

    The current war situation in eastern Ukraine and the decision of the government in Kyiv to begin a new, fourth wave of military conscription and mobilization is unleashing a firestorm of mass opposition and refusal to fight. Protest is rising in all the regions of the country. For sure, there are still nationalist fanatics and far-right militarists exercising violence and intimidation against antiwar protests, but their capacity to stamp out protest is diminishing.

    /..
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/when-ukrainians-choose-not-to-die-in-a-war/

  • Par for the course

    RD – but like the Christ they want to nail Putin too, for MH17. I wish the double-dutching investigator, if Heineken aint enough perhaps maryjane might help,gathers up enough dutch courage to tell us the truth.

  • Republicofscotland

    “And don’t you think that there may have been a few Holocaust deniers on the yes side as well? There were certainly some among its supporters here.”
    _______________________________

    That may well be, but for Fred to know his beloved royalist foot soldiers, employed a holocaust denier, to help bring about a no vote, of which Fred ardently wanted, is just well, priceless.

    How can Nats equate to Nazi’s now in Fred’s eyes, (Fred’s never done comparing them) when his side actively employed and paid a holocaust denier.

  • Peacewisher

    @RD… Snyder was born in 1969, and went to Yale University. Don’t you think his view of Soviet and Eastern European history might be a bit garbled?

    I knew you’d say Poland wasn’t liberated. So you think they’d have been better off left under Nazi occupation? There is an attempt being made to rewrite history… as the US feel they won the cold war, I suppose this was inevitable.

    Do you think Putin will chicken out then if there is a nuclear standoff? Do you think he’d be allowed to?

    We’ve got a Cuban missile crisis moment coming up, if we’re not careful. Some think that some neocons are rubbing their hands together at the prospect… they’ll knock off all the Russia warheads along the way, and enough of theirs will find their targets, or land in… Ukraine (or further West). Whatever… if they are even thinking along these lines (and some seem to be really inciting Putin) it’s really bad news. If you’re not a propagandist please wake up.

  • Clark

    Republicofscotland, you’re pushing a very tenuous form of “guilt by association” by trying to connect Fred to the Orange Order. Fred has consistently argued for Gaza and for Palestinians, here and elsewhere, for many years. I disagree with his No stance – I think he’s illogical about it – but you seem to be attempting to unfairly smear him.

  • Clark

    Republicofscotland, I also think Fred is wrong to equate Scottish Nationalists with Nazis, but relating my personal experiences to him doesn’t seem to influence him. But he’d have nothing to do with the Orange Order – he’ll reject them for the same reasons he rejects nationalists.

  • Peacewisher

    @Mary: When the young Ukrainians realise they’ve been taught a false history (backed by “Internet sources”) for quite a few years they’ll be even more annoyed.

  • Par for the course

    Nuland Conundrum -You cant “Fukc the EU” and “eat” it BUT you can “eat” first and then “Fukc the EU”, as any Boston69er will tell you !!!

  • Resident Dissident

    @RD… Snyder was born in 1969, and went to Yale University. Don’t you think his view of Soviet and Eastern European history might be a bit garbled?

    Snyder is a respected historian particulalry with regard to Eastern Europe who has worked with with people like Tony Judt among others.

    “So you think they’d have been better off left under Nazi occupation?”

    I didn’t try to make a comparison between the two occupations – it is pretty undeniable that Poland went from occuption to another and deserved neither – just because the latter one was not as bad it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    BTW I don’t think Putin wants war with the West – the oligarchs will still want to visit their bank accounts, property, schoolkids and whores in the West.

  • Republicofscotland

    Republicofscotland, you’re pushing a very tenuous form of “guilt by association” by trying to connect Fred to the Orange Order. Fred has consistently argued for Gaza and for Palestinians, here and elsewhere, for many years. I disagree with his No stance – I think he’s illogical about it – but you seem to be attempting to unfairly smear him.
    _______________________________

    Well Clark, the Orange Order campaigned and voted no, Fred voted no, and in my book that’s a good enough association, the O/O has a 50.000 membership in Scotland, and that doesn’t include family members who voted no as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Orange_Lodge_of_Scotland

    Oh and I’m not smearing Fred, I’m merely pointing out who he sided with.

  • John Goss

    “Since you chose to insult Resident Dissident by linking him with Hitler (that’s a standard Stalinist ploy, by the way), you might recall that Adolf called for peace on several occasions in the late 1930s. . . ”

    I really believe from his comments on this blog that if Resident Dissident had been a German during Hitler’s leadership he would have been a supporter. He supports western intervention and tries to make a case for those who waged civil war in a land which had been peaceful before a western-engineered coup. Same thing as occupying the Sudetanland. Eastern Ukrainians, for very good reason, will never give in to the fascists.

    So you do not believe that Putin’s calls for peace are genuine. Since Obama has never made a call for peace you can see who the agressors are. But of course you can’t. Your little blue hat with the bell on it has fallen over your eyes.

  • fred

    “That may well be, but for Fred to know his beloved royalist foot soldiers,”

    Go fuck yourself Nazi Holocaust denying scumbag.

    It’s a fucking crying shame your mother couldn’t find a circus freak show to give you to.

    So fuck off and die retard.

  • Tim

    John

    The problem when viewed from the other side is that Putin’s support for Russian minorities outside Russia looks to some like the Nazi support to German communities outside Germany eg the Sudeten Germans etc which is what led to WWII.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Peacewisher

    I wouldn’t normally bother to quiz and correct you but cannot resist doing so on this occasion lest your nonsense be taken seriously by casual readers.

    “RD failed to tell you that Ukraine has fascists in their government”

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    Please give the name of the “fascist” party in the Ukrainian govt and state how many Cabinet ministers are members of that fascist party (also give the total number of ministers in the cabinet)

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    “and their whole policy to the Donbass people is fascist”

    _____________

    Could you set this out in greater detail and, if necessary, draw comparisons with fascist Germany and Italy.
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    “He also failed to tell you that the government has adopted Stephen Bandera as their hero/founding father”

    __________________

    What do you mean exactly by “adopted”? Please give details.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=

    “He may also have neglected to inform you that their neighbour Poland is rewriting history to present the USSR as like the Nazis…that in 1945 they went from Nazi occupation to Soviet occupation”
    ___________________

    Are you denying that Poland was occupied by Germany, or that Poland was occupied by the Soviet Union, or both?

    On the question if whether or not Poland was occupied by the Soviet Union (we shall leave aside the Soviet occupation of eastern Poland from 1939 to 1941), I suggest you look at one or even all of the following from the extensive literature on the subject:

    “Armed Truce – the beginnings of the Cold war 1945-46” (Hugh Thomas, London, 1986)

    “Iron Curtain – the crushing of Eastern Europe 1944-1956 (Anne Applebaum, London, 2012)

    “The Beginnings of Commmunist Rule in Poland Dec.1943-1945” (Eds. Antony Polonsky and Boleslaw Drukier, London 1980).

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