Bloody hell. Read this. Brilliant.
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Bloody hell. Read this. Brilliant.
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“I doubt it; whatever my disagreements with him, I’m happy to say that he’s a damn sight more intelligent than you are.”
Noddy, just because you dropped out of Blyton does not mean you have the right to criticise intelligent commenters. Stand in the corner. I will put a D on the blue cap with a little bell on it. While you are there read the RT link about Obama’s admission that, as if anybody did not know, they brokered the change of power in Kiev. You have finished “Big Ears goes to Toytown”? Even if you have it does not look like you’ve read much else.
RD
“..a fair slug of Mongol in there as well, as witnessed by the blue spot birthmarks”
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Ah, so you know about those birthmarks! They are also common in (at least some) South-East Asian countries….
BTW, did you know that parents of young children with those birthmarks in the UK are advised to have a doctor certify the marks in order to avoid the risk of the parents being (falsely) accused of having exercised physical violence against their children?
It should be obvious, Habby, to an open mind. I’m not going to trawl through thousands of items of evidence at this time of night. One last try… kids are being brought up to see Stephen Bandera as their national hero, whose statue is probably now in all the major towns and cities. I hate to think what version of history is bringing about that conclusion…
Mr Goss
You’ve been getting a bit of a thrashing on this blog recently: are you attempting to recover some of your shine by posing as a second “Sophia”?
RD. We again have common ground!
I agree entirely with your last post, except that I would replace the word “Putin” by “Obama” (or whoever advises him).
“Is not rasPutin simply doing what tyrants have done from time immemorial – diverting public opinion from current and looming domestic trouble (in this case, mainly economic) by launching themselves into aggressive foreign adventures?”
How many times do I have to tell you Noddy that Rasputin (and you put the capital at the beginning of the word not in the middle) was a personal adviser to Tsarina. The description you have given about tyrants more aptly fits warmongers – i.e. Bush, Blair, Straw, Obama, Cameron et al.
That’s why I’m so cross with Ba’al, he’s apparently being too lazy to research and apparently believes whatever the Dailies tell us.
While you apparently believe what the Russian dailies, weeklies and all outlets are telling you. Ho, hum. If it’s a question of Belief, there’s not much I can say. It’s a common alternative to questions along the lines of cui bono?, is belief. Here’s something from a ‘Daily’, which I am sure you won’t Believe, either, but the Russian media have so lttle that is in any way critical of Putin, it’s rather difficult to find it, and I apologise, insincerely.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/06/-sp-ex-soviet-countries-front-line-russia-media-propaganda-war-west
For laughs – the International Herald Tribune-affiliated freesheet, the Moscow Times (English-language) is critical of Putin. But you won’t find it on a Moscow newsstand:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/putin-will-regret-interfering-in-the-donbass/511964.html
In conclusion – I have no need to research what the Russians are saying, since their supporters here do so, copiously. I’m just providing balance. For our bad news – see RT, Sputnik, Saker, Hunter and the rest. For theirs, see our media. BUT FFS LOOK AT BOTH.
RD. I admire your restraint.
No, I don’t deny that western media are equally claiming the moral high ground. So I went back to the Budapest agreement for an account of what was in fact to be considered legitimate: and I mentioned to Goss that what he was claiming as an admission by Obama that he had instigated the coup was in fact no such thing, and had been a highly selective quotation from a western piece, which has now gone viral, demonstrably through the good offices of Russian state-sponsored outlets.
If you can find a genuinely impartial source for news on Ukraine, do let me know. I’ll be glad to hear of one. (NB Chinese and other uninvolved parties are just as liable to deception and lack of journalistic access as anyone else)
Peacewisher
“It should be obvious, Habby, to an open mind.”
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No, Peacewisher, questions such as “name the fascist party in the Ukrainian govt” or “how many fascist ministers are in the govt. cabinet” have nothing to do with an “open mind”.
They have everything to do with facts, Peacewisher. Do you know what a fact is?
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“Stephen Bandera as their national hero, whose statue is probably now in all the major towns and cities”
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I note the “probably”. You are again speculating. Facts, Peacewisher, facts!
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Anyway, if you do not answer my questions, I’ll have to conclude that you are unable to. In other words, you don’t know.
And that makes you a shill. Begone!
That seems to have got scrambled, sorry.Section from ‘No, I don’t deny’ to end should precede ‘In conclusion’
Thank you, and goodnight.
Back in 2009 Craig published a blog post titled Putin Ratchets Up The Pressure on Ukraine. Just three people submitted ten comments.
In February last year, Craig published a post asking Why Should Ukraine Not Split? in which he wrote this:
Then in November Craig posted The Russian Menace Made Simple, which included this:
How right he was. Do carry on eating each other.
Disappointed in your 9:28pm comment Ba’al, can now safely discount everything you say in the future as suspect, likewise for what anything you might have said in the past. Balance is not obtained by replacing one side’s truths by another side’s blatant falsehoods.
I’m surprised the blog’s owner has not acted upon very direct threats made to the person and safety of John Goss by habbaduk and by Persistent Piss-stain (RD). Then again the Blog’s owner (Craig Murray) does not differ one bit on the subject of Russia/Ukraine from that of oligarch fatcat Poroshenko or indeed of John McCain. Playing a long game I think.
If Merkel is wise to the wily demonic long defunct phantasmagorical KGB of RD’s sweaty nightmares, it can only be because she was close to, if not one of them, that or of the East German Stasi. Of course her family did own the pre-war Lufthansa which morphed into the Luftwaffe, so they have the dirt on her unquestionably and she is one of the ultra-elite blue-bloods. That former KGB member’s turned oligarch turfed out of Russia own a large part of the British press does not merit comment by the same warmongering liars. Embittered sad old men soon dead wreaking havoc on future generations by their selfish lust for power and wealth for their tribe by exercising their general misanthropy, must always be be guarded against. The hysterically and irrationally anti-Putin late Berzovsky and his right hand man Dr Goldfarb, the more likely suspects in the murder of Litvinenko, have KGB backgrounds too but no-one mentions them at all.
On the ever gripping subject of conspiracies, the world war one ‘Belgian Relief Fund’ has come to my attention, by which New York and London banks kept Germany supplied with meat and potatoes and everything else they might need or desire, under cover of ‘helping’ plucky little invaded (by France and Britain) genocidal limb-chopping Belgium. Without which boundless help given under fraudulent cover to the ‘other’ side world war one would indeed have been over by Christmas (1915) and and the Bolshevik or Menshevik factions, both zionist-run could not have in time taken over and further destroyed Russia. Can’t have a war petering out too soon when there’s money to be made out of it and millions of the easily fooled to die unwittingly for the Zionist banker’s rotten and sick causes.
Habby, I’m just a poster, trying to get at the truth, which is especially difficult in the fog of war. Honesty, you are such a joker. You almost always disagree with the posts on here, and disrupt the blog something terrible. Call me a shill if you like, but I’m just seeking truth.
All: what does the word “brokered” mean to you?
Mr Goss (on a lighter note)
You rather remind me of one of those Russian dolls – you know, the ones that when you open them up there’s another one, just the same but smaller, inside.
And, appropriately for the purposes of this friendly comparison, they are usually made of wood.
Peacewisher
Pull the other one. You’re as bad as Mr Goss…and certainly as stupid.
As long as Russia’s Black Sea Fleet continues to visit the Russian naval base in Syria, it is not militarily worthless, any more than the small U.S. garrison in Berlin of which I was once a part was worthless.
However weak they may have been militarily by themselves, they served the valuable function of being tripwires.
If the West were to attack the Russian ships, that could well lead to a nuclear confrontation.
But less stupid than Tony_M, even though the latter seems to have learnt something about paragraphs.
Question to anyone (Glenn, perhaps?) – how long has “Tony_M” been on this blog?
Sorry I meant Ba’al’s 9:14pm, not 9:28.
@Clark: Craig was right on the mark in February.
If only that had happened. Do you think it would have if Crimea had also waited patiently. We have only got the Donbass to look at… this warzone could have been Crimea. Who do we blame? Putin for doing too much? Putin for doing too little. The Us for interfering? The US for not interfering enough?
Hence the November post, which I have some sympathy with, but Russia is a military superpower, whether Craig likes it or not.
Lysias
“the small U.S. garrison in Berlin of which I was once a part”
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I believe you once told us that you had served in the US Navy.
I hadn’t realised that the US Navy was represented in the US “garrison” in West Berlin.
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BTW, which Oxford college did you attend?
I’ll say it once more, Habby. I am just seeking truth. OK. It is difficult. Mainstream media hopeless. RT variable. Twitter better but would take forever to piece together as I found earlier with the explosions on Donetsk.
I haven’t got time to do all this… if you have good luck to you, but you don’t seem very objective.
Whatever you’re doing John, keep doing it ! You have got both RD & Habby so worked up that they have reverted to true thug form, with one threatening to report you to Left Unity, and the other threatening to see to it that you are banned from Poland !!
We also have the failed ex-moderator Clark, trying once again to play the reasonable & impartial moderator, picking up John’s comments, yet ignoring the thuggish threats & actually sweet talking to the thugs !
Best laugh of all, is that it looks like Ba’al has been stricken down with an acute case of Craig Murray’s Russophobia !
@Ba’al; “What part of that doesn’t your extremely illiberal autocratic chum Putin not understand?”
Best address that to CIA sponsored NGO’s that spent years & a cool $5 billion exactly undermining the “political independence of Ukraine”
@Ba’al; “against Yanukovich (who had had his arm twisted by Moscow to realign with Russia against the majority opinion”
I think you will find it was the top EU officials, rather than Russia, that threatened Ukraine with a coup if Kiev refused to sign an association agreement in 2013, in preference to a much better Russian deal.
Here’s some new interesting Ukraine snippets; 80% of men fleeing mobilization; over a million Ukrainian refugees have fled to Russia; Newsweek has reported that Government militias are beheading hostages, just like ISIS; two female Russian journalists have been detained & held in incommunicado, but at least they haven’t been killed outright like their four previous colleagues.
“On a lighter note . . .” Matryoshki they are called. Матрёшки. 🙂
Here’s Macky, making up the tail as usual, 48 hours behind the rest.
BTW, Macky, Mr Goss doesn’t know what he’s doing, he’s just thrashing around. Keep at it and you’ll soon reach his level of thrashing-around expertise! 🙂
Images of Donetsk explosion finally gone viral. Contributions from pro-separatists, pro-kiev, pro-Right Sector, and observers, but fascinating to see how a story develops. Amazing picture from space (NATO) so not really surprising it has gone viral:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-08/meanwhile-donetsk
Clark: I’ve learned a couple of things today and will try to be more objective myself.
As to Putin, few in the west understand him. Russians love him. He was bullied at school. But according to western analysts he is suffering from all kinds of medical conditions. I found this quite sad really.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/how-the-u-s-struggles-to-understand-putin/515584.html
I have never met him. I have no idea what he is like as a person. But he has not started any wars. In his early years as president he did intervene in Chechnya against the western-funded Muja Hadin.
Macky, I kept things calm here for a while (look back, it worked). I went out to do some shopping and my car broke down. By the time I’d had it recovered and got home they were all savaging each other. Oh well.
Go on, ramp it up. You claim to support peace, yet in communication you clearly like to escalate arguments. Maybe you should practice boxing or something instead. If bloody conflict wasn’t happening in Ukraine or somewhere you’d be watching slash vids on TV.
Habbabkuk; “Mr Goss doesn’t know what he’s doing”
Well he’s obviously knows how to get you & RD to drop your masks, & fully reveal your very ugly sides.
@John: Do they want to understand him… or just conquer him. Perhaps they should just leave him alone!
Article in The Economist, quite a good one, don’t be put off by the title:
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21642205-war-south-east-ukraine-continues-expand-both-size-and-scope-give-war-chance
@Clark, save it for your condescending & pretentious ego: the thuggish threats were made long before.
John Goss, Chechnya? Those abused when young are in danger of becoming abusers. The only big war Russia could have would be nuclear.