I agree John – this particular story was researched by a great friend of the late Michael Ruppert and appears on collapsenet, a site I have a particular fondness for having known Michael before he gave his life for us.
“I gather from all the government statements insisting that the independence question is settled once and for all that there is no formal bar to another referendum. So the question becomes, How can the British state impede it? Or who is in a position to impede it? That’s where I would look for Britain’s perestroika.”
With oil at $55 a barrel people in an independent Scotland would be relying on food parcels from Greece.
If somebody in Glasgow didn’t steal them first that is.
johnstone
Bab
How can the British state impede it? Or who is in a position to impede it
How….by more ballot box fraud perhaps?
Who… the ‘Landed’ few who own the UK.
Dreoilin
Thanks for posting the photo.. is the future really coming?
Suit & tie .. anachronism and camouflage of respectability
Robert Crawford
Fred.
Away back down to England.
fred
“How….by more ballot box fraud perhaps?”
Serious allegations, can you back them up with evidence?
I seem to remember the same allegations being made right after the referendum and those who made them being shown to be liars.
fred
“Fred.
Away back down to England.”
Fuck off and die retard.
Robert Crawford
Fred.
You give the English a bad name.
Have you been deported to this colony of England?
What you put out is what you will get back.
fred
“Fred.
You give the English a bad name.”
Which part of “fuck off and die” didn’t you understand then retard?
Robert Crawford
Fred.
Take your Inferiority Complex and get professional help.
To belittle a race of people the way you do, or is it just the 45% who voted YES that are retards?
Are you worried you might lose your Colonial Master status, in an Independent Scotland?
In the meantime watch your mouth. That gap in your education is showing, and letting you down.
mike
Kerry is in Kiev today. That means there will be an uptick in violence. This has been the pattern since the coup — top Yank visits Kiev; Kiev goes on the offensive in the east.
Robert Crawford
Furthermore Fred,
You have just branded me and all other Glaswegians, thieves.
Do you know what a Glesca kiss is?
Talk like that and you might find out, the hard way.
Ba'al Zevul
Just over $55 at the moment for Brent crude. It is to be hoped that the Saudis open the taps still further, or Fred’s schadenfreude will give place to weeping.
What is apparent is that this has been driven by the Saudis more than anyone else. Both lack of demand, and potential competition from US frackers, made a price drop desirable from their POV – and that of the operators of grey Fergies too, of course. They’ve even succeeded in accelerating the shutdown of the original Brent complex, so well done them, eh, Fred? Marginal plays are even more costly to exploit if the hardware’s been removed, and reopening the complex when the price rises to previous levels is probably not an option. The next readjustment (which may already be under way) will be a slow rise to determine the maximum sustainable profit margin for the Saudis. At that point we will be wholly dependent on them and the Russians (barring a rapprochement with Iran) as well as a collection of unstable African states. Job done. Be careful what you wish for, Fred. The UK will still be licking the arses of unsavoury regimes for the foreseeable future, and that tractor won’t be much cheaper to run in 2017 than it was in 2013.
But there are now signs of a recovery, beginning last week with a report out of the United States that the number of rigs drilling for shale oil had dropped to a 30-year low.
Brent has now surged above $50, and Mohr expects this latest trend to continue.
“With that I think in the second half of the year the world’s supply and demand balance for crude oil is going to move back into balance and we can expect somewhat higher prices,” Mohr explained.
Mohr is forecasting that Brent will average $58 this year, and $68 in 2016.
“I think within a couple of years oil prices are going to move up to more normal levels, but we need to see probably quite a slowdown in drilling activity worldwide, which will slow production and bring supply back into line with just modestly growing demand around the world,” said Mohr.
No Fred I can not back that up its just a very strong suspicion based upon circumstantial evidence (so.. perhaps ?).
But with Scotland’s potentially progressive Land Reform policy stuck in limbo waiting for the right political climate they, the land owners, are terrified and will do anything to make sure the Act never has any sweeping reform mechanisms.
Party political change on its own will not significantly alter the balance of power in Scotland, no there also needs to be drastic land reform.
“This has been the pattern since the coup — top Yank visits Kiev; Kiev goes on the offensive in the east.”
That is true. But public opinion is starting to change in Ukraine. There are protests in Kiev where civilians have tried to storm government buildings and many many men are ‘draft-dodging’ to avoid serving the Nazi government.
Fred , you are misguided,misinformed as well as a racial foul mouthed ignorant bigot too boot.
If you had read any of the pro independence literature pre referendum and since,you would know that the SNP’s position on oil is that it is a heaven sent bonus that shouldn’t be squandered.It is not a necessity of life in Scotland. Or do you eat it and is that the reason the price concerns you so much ? If the oil ran out yesterday there would still be over 25 years in decommisioning work for a very large part of the workforce.If you spent some of your time away from your animals educating yourself about the industry,you would know that much of the revenue is from oil exploration and ancillary services.I know at least 25 people in 25 counttries that cut their teeth in the ouil industry off Aberdeen.
As for evidence of wrong doing in the referendum,there’s plenty… again ,use some of your time reading up on it instead of spouting hot evil smelling rhetoric.
Everyone in Scotland understands every syllable of your curses,in fact we might even have invented them as did with Crofts,TV and Telephone for example.
Why dont you take your own advice and spend an afternoon looking after those animals before I call the RSPCA.
lysias
Even without revitalized British parties, unless the British state actually collapses it will stop at nothing to hold onto Scotland.
If it ever becomes clear that sentiment in Scotland is overwhelmingly in favor of independence, just how does the British state go about holding onto Scotland? If the SNP adopts the tactics of Sinn Fein in 1919 (withdrawal from Westminster, refusal to recognize the institutions of the British state), how can they be defeated? Military force? Occupation?
– Сейчас в России много беженцев из Донбасса. Мы с коллегами собирали для них теплые вещи. Вот что они рассказали нам, кстати, по-русски: “Мы очень ждали, что придет украинская армия и отвоюет территорию, но когда мы поняли, что этого не будет, решили убежать”.
Я спросил, почему же они бежали не в Украину: “В Украине пришлось бы пересекать линию фронта, это опасно. Поэтому пришлось бежать в Россию, хотя мы не очень хотим здесь быть. Мы хотели бы вернуться обратно, желательно туда, где мы жили. Но пока там те головорезы, это невозможно”.
Россияне к беженцам относятся ужасно, мол, че вы приперлись, сидите тут на нашей шее. Напряжение между ними нарастает. Но мне и моим коллегам их жаль. Эти люди сбежали не потому, что любят Россию и Путина, а потому, что на их родине идет война, и они просто не хотят погибнуть.
Briefly, for those wannabe commissars that have not been diligent in learning the mother-tongue 🙂 :
There are many refugees from Donbass in Russia now. This is what they told us – “We desperately wanted the Ukrainian army to come and liberate the territory, but when we understood that this was not happening we decided to flee.” I asked, so why didn’t they flee to Ukraine. “We would have to cross the frontline and this is dangerous. We had to come to Russia, although we would rather not be here. We wish to return where we have come from, but whilst those cut-throats are there, it is impossible”. There is tension between Russians and the refugees and it is growing. But I and my colleagues pity these refugees. They fled not because they love Russia and Putin, but because there is a war in their country and they do not want to perish.
Milov is considered to be a Russian dissident, sort of like Navalnyi or Kasparov. He was at one point deputy energy minister of Russia.
Ba'al Zevul
Talking of Saudi Arabian oil, and ‘Wow’, here’s the back story to the PetroSaudi deal our mutual friend brokered to his immense personal advantage in 2010. This part, involving a massive ripoff from the Malaysian development fund under what appear to be completely false pretences, was barely reported in the UK, even by The Times, which broke the original story and published the contract:
The Express agrees with you, Craig. Care to reconsider?
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Fred : “Serious allegations, can you back them up with evidence?
I seem to remember the same allegations being made right after the referendum and those who made them being shown to be liars.”
That’s a serious allegation you’ve made there, Fred, that people who claimed there was ballot fraud were shown to be liars. Can you back it up with evidence?
I’m not talking about the silly videos of YES votes in the NO pile, etc, which conveniently discredited more serious accusations. I’m talking about ballot boxes being transported to the counting stations by unaccompanied people, the advance knowledge of the postal ballot by the No campaign leaders, ballot boxes being counted without being linked to their polling station and other documented criminal acts. The people who claim these malpractices led to ballot fraud have not been shown to be liars. They might be correct, we’ll probably never know.
lysias
I would have thought that it would be possible to establish the probability (or not) of ballot fraud by somebody going to the expense of conducting a poll of a sample of the Scottish population asking them how they voted (i.e., an after-the-fact exit poll).
giyane
Did you know that car tax is not transferable on the sale of a vehicle? How many hours of MSM drivel should I have watched or listened to in order to know that?
I would rather know, first from Craig, now confirmed by Mark Golding, that Saudi Arabia is trying to shake Russian cat-do off its foot for Putin’s support for Assad.
Except it isn’t Putin who’s actually doing that. The Z’s are supporting Assad to frustrate the Saudis, and sticking the cat-do on Russia’s foot. While also sticking cat-do on Russia’s other foot.
Bab
“how can they be defeated? Military force? Occupation?”
Sure, Why not? Under the banking kleptocracy of the Western Bloc, Spain has already tried that to chill Catalan self-determination. Britain is the most hardline of the Western Bloc Satellites. It does for the NATO Pact what East Germany did for the Warsaw Pact. Currently UK state repression is focused on derogating economic, social, civil and political rights. But self-determination entails all the protections that the UK is attacking piecemeal, and as a peremptory norm of international law, it is harder to oppose under color of law. If self-determination threatens to impair US control, the UK would naturally be directed to repress it.
fred
“Take your Inferiority Complex and get professional help.”
Go fuck yourself cunt.
fred
“Fred , you are misguided,misinformed as well as a racial foul mouthed ignorant bigot too boot.”
Fuck off and die retard.
lysias
I would have thought it’s too early in the day to be drunk.
Geoffrey
Shouldn’t the financials be worked out first? How would Scotland’s share of the UK national debt be transferred to it? What currency will Scotland use? How will Scotland service the debt? Who will be responsible for the debt in the event of default? etc.
It is extremely unlikely that in the event of independence things will continue more or less as before for either Scotland or the rest of the UK.
We in the UK currently live well over our means,because stupid people are prepared to lend us £s for virtually nothing because they think we won’t go bust (Ho,ho!).
Would the rest of the UK underwrite Scotland’s debt ? if it doesn’t it is likely Scotish state spending would have to be reduced unless of course Brussels comes to the rescue?
As the late Mandy Rice Davis famously exclaimed “Well he would say that wouldn’t he.”
He is entitled to express his view that they fled not because they love Russia and Putin and I’m sure Milov’s 10,000 followers in Russia would lap his words up and even believe that that is the majority opinion. It would need more than an article by the ‘darling of the west’ Milov to convince me that everybody wants to return. 🙂
I don’t blame them in the least for not wanting to die in an illegal war, the first civil war for some 90 years, started by the weasel-faced Yatsenyuk and Petro “Porky” Poroshenko. I am not normally rude about people but I hope I would have said the same about Herr ‘ratface’ Hitler. Hopefully the refugees will get to return one day. 🙂
I agree John – this particular story was researched by a great friend of the late Michael Ruppert and appears on collapsenet, a site I have a particular fondness for having known Michael before he gave his life for us.
Actually http://www.barder.com/4361
This correlates the story John in respect of Russia’s support for Iran:
http://business.financialpost.com/2014/12/27/nevermind-u-s-shale-saudi-arabias-oil-power-play-targets-irans-economy/
“I gather from all the government statements insisting that the independence question is settled once and for all that there is no formal bar to another referendum. So the question becomes, How can the British state impede it? Or who is in a position to impede it? That’s where I would look for Britain’s perestroika.”
With oil at $55 a barrel people in an independent Scotland would be relying on food parcels from Greece.
If somebody in Glasgow didn’t steal them first that is.
Bab
How can the British state impede it? Or who is in a position to impede it
How….by more ballot box fraud perhaps?
Who… the ‘Landed’ few who own the UK.
Dreoilin
Thanks for posting the photo.. is the future really coming?
Suit & tie .. anachronism and camouflage of respectability
Fred.
Away back down to England.
“How….by more ballot box fraud perhaps?”
Serious allegations, can you back them up with evidence?
I seem to remember the same allegations being made right after the referendum and those who made them being shown to be liars.
“Fred.
Away back down to England.”
Fuck off and die retard.
Fred.
You give the English a bad name.
Have you been deported to this colony of England?
What you put out is what you will get back.
“Fred.
You give the English a bad name.”
Which part of “fuck off and die” didn’t you understand then retard?
Fred.
Take your Inferiority Complex and get professional help.
To belittle a race of people the way you do, or is it just the 45% who voted YES that are retards?
Are you worried you might lose your Colonial Master status, in an Independent Scotland?
In the meantime watch your mouth. That gap in your education is showing, and letting you down.
Kerry is in Kiev today. That means there will be an uptick in violence. This has been the pattern since the coup — top Yank visits Kiev; Kiev goes on the offensive in the east.
Furthermore Fred,
You have just branded me and all other Glaswegians, thieves.
Do you know what a Glesca kiss is?
Talk like that and you might find out, the hard way.
Just over $55 at the moment for Brent crude. It is to be hoped that the Saudis open the taps still further, or Fred’s schadenfreude will give place to weeping.
What is apparent is that this has been driven by the Saudis more than anyone else. Both lack of demand, and potential competition from US frackers, made a price drop desirable from their POV – and that of the operators of grey Fergies too, of course. They’ve even succeeded in accelerating the shutdown of the original Brent complex, so well done them, eh, Fred? Marginal plays are even more costly to exploit if the hardware’s been removed, and reopening the complex when the price rises to previous levels is probably not an option. The next readjustment (which may already be under way) will be a slow rise to determine the maximum sustainable profit margin for the Saudis. At that point we will be wholly dependent on them and the Russians (barring a rapprochement with Iran) as well as a collection of unstable African states. Job done. Be careful what you wish for, Fred. The UK will still be licking the arses of unsavoury regimes for the foreseeable future, and that tractor won’t be much cheaper to run in 2017 than it was in 2013.
But there are now signs of a recovery, beginning last week with a report out of the United States that the number of rigs drilling for shale oil had dropped to a 30-year low.
Brent has now surged above $50, and Mohr expects this latest trend to continue.
“With that I think in the second half of the year the world’s supply and demand balance for crude oil is going to move back into balance and we can expect somewhat higher prices,” Mohr explained.
Mohr is forecasting that Brent will average $58 this year, and $68 in 2016.
“I think within a couple of years oil prices are going to move up to more normal levels, but we need to see probably quite a slowdown in drilling activity worldwide, which will slow production and bring supply back into line with just modestly growing demand around the world,” said Mohr.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/scotiabank-vp-patricia-mohr-believes-recovery-in-oil-prices-is-underway-1.2945088
No Fred I can not back that up its just a very strong suspicion based upon circumstantial evidence (so.. perhaps ?).
But with Scotland’s potentially progressive Land Reform policy stuck in limbo waiting for the right political climate they, the land owners, are terrified and will do anything to make sure the Act never has any sweeping reform mechanisms.
Party political change on its own will not significantly alter the balance of power in Scotland, no there also needs to be drastic land reform.
“This has been the pattern since the coup — top Yank visits Kiev; Kiev goes on the offensive in the east.”
That is true. But public opinion is starting to change in Ukraine. There are protests in Kiev where civilians have tried to storm government buildings and many many men are ‘draft-dodging’ to avoid serving the Nazi government.
http://redpilltimes.com/russia-ukraines-enemy-1-2-million-ukrainian-men-seeking-refuge-russia/
Apologies for being off-topic.
Fred , you are misguided,misinformed as well as a racial foul mouthed ignorant bigot too boot.
If you had read any of the pro independence literature pre referendum and since,you would know that the SNP’s position on oil is that it is a heaven sent bonus that shouldn’t be squandered.It is not a necessity of life in Scotland. Or do you eat it and is that the reason the price concerns you so much ? If the oil ran out yesterday there would still be over 25 years in decommisioning work for a very large part of the workforce.If you spent some of your time away from your animals educating yourself about the industry,you would know that much of the revenue is from oil exploration and ancillary services.I know at least 25 people in 25 counttries that cut their teeth in the ouil industry off Aberdeen.
As for evidence of wrong doing in the referendum,there’s plenty… again ,use some of your time reading up on it instead of spouting hot evil smelling rhetoric.
Everyone in Scotland understands every syllable of your curses,in fact we might even have invented them as did with Crofts,TV and Telephone for example.
Why dont you take your own advice and spend an afternoon looking after those animals before I call the RSPCA.
If it ever becomes clear that sentiment in Scotland is overwhelmingly in favor of independence, just how does the British state go about holding onto Scotland? If the SNP adopts the tactics of Sinn Fein in 1919 (withdrawal from Westminster, refusal to recognize the institutions of the British state), how can they be defeated? Military force? Occupation?
John Goss, 5 Feb, 2015 – 12:59 pm
For you, from the interview of Vladimir Milov here: http://www.epravda.com.ua/publications/2015/01/27/523756/
– Сейчас в России много беженцев из Донбасса. Мы с коллегами собирали для них теплые вещи. Вот что они рассказали нам, кстати, по-русски: “Мы очень ждали, что придет украинская армия и отвоюет территорию, но когда мы поняли, что этого не будет, решили убежать”.
Я спросил, почему же они бежали не в Украину: “В Украине пришлось бы пересекать линию фронта, это опасно. Поэтому пришлось бежать в Россию, хотя мы не очень хотим здесь быть. Мы хотели бы вернуться обратно, желательно туда, где мы жили. Но пока там те головорезы, это невозможно”.
Россияне к беженцам относятся ужасно, мол, че вы приперлись, сидите тут на нашей шее. Напряжение между ними нарастает. Но мне и моим коллегам их жаль. Эти люди сбежали не потому, что любят Россию и Путина, а потому, что на их родине идет война, и они просто не хотят погибнуть.
Briefly, for those wannabe commissars that have not been diligent in learning the mother-tongue 🙂 :
There are many refugees from Donbass in Russia now. This is what they told us – “We desperately wanted the Ukrainian army to come and liberate the territory, but when we understood that this was not happening we decided to flee.” I asked, so why didn’t they flee to Ukraine. “We would have to cross the frontline and this is dangerous. We had to come to Russia, although we would rather not be here. We wish to return where we have come from, but whilst those cut-throats are there, it is impossible”. There is tension between Russians and the refugees and it is growing. But I and my colleagues pity these refugees. They fled not because they love Russia and Putin, but because there is a war in their country and they do not want to perish.
Milov is considered to be a Russian dissident, sort of like Navalnyi or Kasparov. He was at one point deputy energy minister of Russia.
Talking of Saudi Arabian oil, and ‘Wow’, here’s the back story to the PetroSaudi deal our mutual friend brokered to his immense personal advantage in 2010. This part, involving a massive ripoff from the Malaysian development fund under what appear to be completely false pretences, was barely reported in the UK, even by The Times, which broke the original story and published the contract:
http://www.asiasentinel.com/econ-business/1mdb-dubious-middle-eastern-connections/
Keywords: Tony Blair, OQR, AGI, TBFF, conman.
Happy to say I think the UK is on its last legs.
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/556150/Labour-SNP-Labour-westminster
The Express agrees with you, Craig. Care to reconsider?
Fred : “Serious allegations, can you back them up with evidence?
I seem to remember the same allegations being made right after the referendum and those who made them being shown to be liars.”
That’s a serious allegation you’ve made there, Fred, that people who claimed there was ballot fraud were shown to be liars. Can you back it up with evidence?
I’m not talking about the silly videos of YES votes in the NO pile, etc, which conveniently discredited more serious accusations. I’m talking about ballot boxes being transported to the counting stations by unaccompanied people, the advance knowledge of the postal ballot by the No campaign leaders, ballot boxes being counted without being linked to their polling station and other documented criminal acts. The people who claim these malpractices led to ballot fraud have not been shown to be liars. They might be correct, we’ll probably never know.
I would have thought that it would be possible to establish the probability (or not) of ballot fraud by somebody going to the expense of conducting a poll of a sample of the Scottish population asking them how they voted (i.e., an after-the-fact exit poll).
Did you know that car tax is not transferable on the sale of a vehicle? How many hours of MSM drivel should I have watched or listened to in order to know that?
I would rather know, first from Craig, now confirmed by Mark Golding, that Saudi Arabia is trying to shake Russian cat-do off its foot for Putin’s support for Assad.
Except it isn’t Putin who’s actually doing that. The Z’s are supporting Assad to frustrate the Saudis, and sticking the cat-do on Russia’s foot. While also sticking cat-do on Russia’s other foot.
“how can they be defeated? Military force? Occupation?”
Sure, Why not? Under the banking kleptocracy of the Western Bloc, Spain has already tried that to chill Catalan self-determination. Britain is the most hardline of the Western Bloc Satellites. It does for the NATO Pact what East Germany did for the Warsaw Pact. Currently UK state repression is focused on derogating economic, social, civil and political rights. But self-determination entails all the protections that the UK is attacking piecemeal, and as a peremptory norm of international law, it is harder to oppose under color of law. If self-determination threatens to impair US control, the UK would naturally be directed to repress it.
“Take your Inferiority Complex and get professional help.”
Go fuck yourself cunt.
“Fred , you are misguided,misinformed as well as a racial foul mouthed ignorant bigot too boot.”
Fuck off and die retard.
I would have thought it’s too early in the day to be drunk.
Shouldn’t the financials be worked out first? How would Scotland’s share of the UK national debt be transferred to it? What currency will Scotland use? How will Scotland service the debt? Who will be responsible for the debt in the event of default? etc.
It is extremely unlikely that in the event of independence things will continue more or less as before for either Scotland or the rest of the UK.
We in the UK currently live well over our means,because stupid people are prepared to lend us £s for virtually nothing because they think we won’t go bust (Ho,ho!).
Would the rest of the UK underwrite Scotland’s debt ? if it doesn’t it is likely Scotish state spending would have to be reduced unless of course Brussels comes to the rescue?
Evgueni 5 Feb, 2015 – 2:55 pm
As the late Mandy Rice Davis famously exclaimed “Well he would say that wouldn’t he.”
He is entitled to express his view that they fled not because they love Russia and Putin and I’m sure Milov’s 10,000 followers in Russia would lap his words up and even believe that that is the majority opinion. It would need more than an article by the ‘darling of the west’ Milov to convince me that everybody wants to return. 🙂
I don’t blame them in the least for not wanting to die in an illegal war, the first civil war for some 90 years, started by the weasel-faced Yatsenyuk and Petro “Porky” Poroshenko. I am not normally rude about people but I hope I would have said the same about Herr ‘ratface’ Hitler. Hopefully the refugees will get to return one day. 🙂