The Gordon and Dougie Show 420


Gordon Brown and wee Dougie Alexander once bestrode the world, bombing much of it. Now these mighty egos are confined within Elderslie Village Hall.

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The problem is, the average member of the population does not have a high opinion of the dynamic duo. So it is essential that they are kept away from average people, and instead paraded only before vetted audiences of Labour activists. There are not very many of those; so the venues are tiny, with a small number of carefully bunched people holding silly placards, photographed by a compliant media only from carefully prepared angles.

Now I plunge happily into politically incorrect ground. As normal people have abandoned it and Labour has come down to the core of its core support, it is truly striking how remarkably ugly its hardcore activists are. I don’t mean that in any metaphorical sense. I mean that they are an aesthetic disaster. It is not a product of poverty, as the core support are all well employed as research assistants or doing pretendy youth work jobs for Labour councils. Other parties do not have such challenging physiognomy. It is very seldom you can look at a room and say Gordon Brown is one of the best looking people there. Perhaps Blair’s crimes have been written on the faces of all the complicit.

Douglas Alexander not only facilitated the use of Diego Garcia for torture and extraordinary rendition, in an act of extreme hypocrisy the evil little shit also declared a “marine conservation area” around it. In the 1960’s Britain forcibly deported the entire population of the islands to make way for the US Air Base. Faced with a continual political and legal fight for them to return, Alexander sought to make it impossible with his “marine conservation area”. There is nobody who better represents Scottish Labour’s loss of its soul than Alexander. If Mhairi beats him I shall be extremely happy.


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420 thoughts on “The Gordon and Dougie Show

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  • Tim

    Buffalo Springfield “for what it’s worth” seems a better soundtrack for this blog’s comments section

  • RobG

    Clark, unlike the 1930s, this time round the vulture capitalists have been allowed to get away with it (because governance is so corrupt).

    As a result all General Elections are a total joke, egged-on by an equally corrupt and paid-for media.

    Not only do we live in an ersatz democracy, we now live in a society that has become an almost complete police state.

  • lysias

    Laissez-faire capitalism has also been tried, repeatedly, and failed, repeatedly.

    By the way, I did look at the Navy Times this morning, and it still has the Ronald Reagan docked in California. When — if ever — will they admit that it has become unusable? The poor sailors who were sickened by their exposure to radiation, and whom the U.S. government still refuses to compensate.

  • fedup

    I assume such shills operate at this site but I don’t make any assumptions as to who is and who isn’t, and I also don’t assume that only pro-Neocon and pro-Israeli shills are present

    Clark no need for assumptions, the empirical data through pattern analysis and the favoured subject analysis clearly point out who this cretin is, and busy portraying a bigger foot print than the actualities would permit.

    However this cretin and its cohorts are entirely dependent on the other participants interaction to obfuscate it’s/their identity through these interactions. Take note of the sentences used and word patterns deployed, as well as the time lines and the order of interactions. Soon you can see the reality without any assumptions.

    Further Karimov is a two bit player whose constituency does not extend beyond the poor benighted lands he is currently the charge hand in control of. However, as for the rest of the tossers you pointed, Straw is a neocon or he would not have been employed with that carpetbagger bLiar the agent at large for Morgan. Given the homage these pay to the grand masters of fraud and their imperatives, compels these to join forces to peddle the same nostrum; zionistan’s right is paramount and above any other nation or cause. This in turn feeds the keyboard warrior’s inboxes to get on pushing the agenda set out for them.

    Finally for you to live and let live in the same environment is an enlightened approach and highly commendable, alas these cretins cannot share the universe with anyone else, lest this poxy rock to be shared by the likes of you and I. These miscreants believe in a mutually exclusive life; ie it is either them or us?

    Their handiwork in Palestine by now should leave no doubt in anyone’s minds as to their intent, and modus operandi. Keep reading the comments and see the patterns, they are not here to debate, they are here to reinforce the official narrative.

    Synthesise from nature; predators always scatter their prey’s and proceed to kill singly and one at a time, as do parasites; isolate and destroy their target victim. The cretin masquerading as many relies on the interaction of others, hence the constant torrent of aggressive and abusive remarks to get a rise from the many unsuspecting participants. all the while reinforcing the official narrative;

    The troops are supposed to deliver “means of shaping behaviour through the use of dynamic narratives” with teams focusing on psychological operations and interaction with the media. They will also take the lead in providing reconstruction and humanitarian assistance and help with strengthening civic society and local security forces.

    Note the sugar coating from the link before.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “The poor sailors who were sickened by their exposure to radiation, and whom the U.S. government still refuses to compensate.”
    ____________________

    Is that what the Navy Times is saying?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    The first two paras of Fedup’s latest are really masterpieces of bad syntax and ultra-obscure formulation.

    He should patent the formula and sell it as sleeping pills.

    But to repeat my question of before: when did you get out?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    After an opinion piece in The Times a couple of days ago by “Lord” Pannick (aka David Pannick QC) defending the DPP’s decision not to have Lord Janner put on trial, today we have a piece in similar vein in The Sunday Times by someone going under the name of Dominic Lawson.

    Sounds as if certain units have been mobilised!

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Monsieur Miliband* is reported in today’s UK newspapers as calling for certain reforms to the way the rented housing market operates.

    These reforms apparently include: limiting annual rent rises to inflation; three year rather than one year or even six month contracts to become the norm; checks to ensure that landlords do not increase rents between changes of tenant (except for inflation); curbs on estate agents’ fees for the simple renewal of leases.

    These reforms – which would appear to bring the British system nearer to that practised in several Continental countries – seem rather sensible to me. They may not please multiple landlords but that is, as they say, tough shit.

    What do readers think?

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    * He read Modern Greats (=PPE) at Oxford University and it has been established that he attended Corpus Christi college. Others take note!

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    I enjoy your contributions, Fedup. I’m glad to see you back here.

  • fedup

    You are kind Node, thanks.

    Mary good to see you back and fighting as ever, remember the wise words of archbishop Dr David Jenkins in Stockton ;”nil carborundum illegitimi”

  • Clark

    Fedup, if you’re claiming that some sort of analysis across comments on multiple websites can expose individuals posting under multiple identities, I think you should go ahead and expose them by publishing the evidence.

    On the other hand it doesn’t really matter if some shills advance a particular narrative because the facts are what they are and good, honest argument will prevail over poor, misleading argument.

    Personal abuse, smears and misrepresentation are another matter. Where there is no moderation to prevent them, it seems best to avoid responding with similar unpleasant techniques in ones own comments, thus making such trollery conspicuous.

  • Mary

    Compare and contrast with the increase in billionaires in the Rich List.

    “I am tired of burying people who have committed suicide.”

    ‘We follow George Orwell’s Road To Wigan Pier where poverty is now worse than the 1930s

    25 April 2015

    Nearly 80 years from Orwell’s book on the effects of Great Depression, we find soul-destroying hardship – unemployment, hunger, hypothermia and child poverty

    In the vestry of St Barnabas Church in Wigan, the vicar is close to tears.

    “If I am honest, I am tired,” the Rev Denise Hayes says, serving hot tea against the bleakness of the weather outside.

    “I am tired of burying people who have committed suicide.”

    Out in the church, a family lights candles for their son who has taken his own life. “He was only 33,” Rev Denise says. “But there’s only so much people can take. Only so much a community can take.”

    She has seen it all in the year she has been at St Barnabas.’

    /..
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/follow-george-orwells-road-wigan-5583390

    (The spelling of the name of the church is corrected.)

  • Clark

    Habbabkuk, regarding possible, putative, proposed rent reforms, I say too little and far too late and I’ll believe them when I see them. But apart from that, good.

    I call it too late because rents have already spiralled to obscene levels in many areas and these reforms will do nothing to bring them down.

  • RobG

    I’ve no idea what the trolls are going on about here. This election campaign is one of the worst I’ve ever witnessed; and that’s saying something. All we get from the Westminster parties are bum fluff talking points. None of the politicians ever address real issues.

    Whilst the SNP are by no means perfect (I’ll get onto that later), if they had a candidate standing in every constituency in the UK they would be in power on 8th May.

    This tells you more about the present state of democracy in Britain than it does about the SNP.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Your moderator “Clark”….probably thinks I am making it up too..or maybe the stuff I write is so fucking boring…that they think I am polluting them..whilst they write these beautiful words..But I am Not Acceptable…

    And they don’t believe me..they think I am making it up..and well she is something else..and he just saw my wife coming..walking all alone..she had sent me ahead..to get The Tea on…and this Ex SAS bloke..came out of his flat where he lives..and he gave her a box of chocolates and a bottle of wine..

    What a nice thing to do.

    She had earned it

    Nicest Girl in The World

    My Wife – My Treasure

    You see or not as the case maybe..he is one of this life’s wounded

    And well…She said..Please..You have done such a Brilliant Job Next Door..

    Can you do our Garden Too???

    Well I was working all hours God sends..and My Wife had given up Her Job at The Bank and Was A Full Time Childminder (well for our two too)

    And being an old soldier..and not really being close to his family and no real friends..No one to look after him…

    Except My Wife and I..My wife is not a Nurse..But We Drove Him To Hospital To Have The Operation..Down There..where his guts were falling out..and he had nowhere else to go…So we Drove Him Back To Our Home..where he stayed for a few days…and well I couldn’t look down there..and My Wife Changed His Dressings and Bandages…well you know..and I thought What a Girl

    And he Thought What a Girl

    She even visited him in jail…..when the kids would not stop winding him up..as if he was making it up…

    I mean FFS…do not take these guys to the limit…cos..well sure..you are going to survive…just about..cos he doesn’t want to kill you..you are just a kid…

    You end up in hospital with all these Pretty Nurses..nursing you back to health

    And He Ends Up In Jail

    So Don’t Do It

    Do Not Join The Army and Go To War.

    Get a Guitar or a Motorbike Instead.

    Tony

  • RobG

    Tony sort of makes more sense than all the bullshit I’ve heard so far in this General Election campaign.

    Maybe that’s Tony’s point?

  • Clark

    Resident Dissident, Labour had thirteen years to do something about the rent market and spiralling housing costs; to undo what Thatcher had started off with the sale of council houses and the prohibition on building replacements. Why should I start trusting them now, especially just before an election?

  • John Goss

    Leslie and where socialism is alive. Probably in some small tribe in the Amazonian rainforest, or somewhere else I haven’t been. But Syriza are trying despite the mess the oligarchs and bankers left them in. Which brings me to Left Unity, a much younger sister to Syriza and Podemas. It’s Manifest is not perfect and I there are things I do not agree with but it is a document that can be built upon.

    http://leftunity.org/download-or-order-the-manifesto/

    These initiatives can only be made to work if people ditch the sisterly neocon/Zionist Labour/Conservative and LibDem parties.

  • Villager

    [JSD]: Thank you, very much appreciated.

    [Villager]: Please read the above comment from Mary and tell me how appropriate it was for her to be educating us about oligarchs, (a subject all too apparent that she know’s nothing about), immediately after Craig had just finished admonishing John Goss about ‘Putin propaganda’ on unrelated threads? Here is her comment:
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/31972/comment-page-1/#comment-522137

    [JSD]: It’s not a subject I’m the slightest bit interested in, so it just slid by me, sorry. I don’t even know what the argument’s about, nor do I care. If you think Mary’s comments are inappropriate then you are welcome to say so, as is RD. Then she’s welcome to answer you, if she feels like it, and so forth. That’s what the forum’s for, to stimulate debate. As for Craig, I notice that he didn’t say to John Goss: “stop doing this or I’ll chuck you off the forum”. He requested him to stop. That’s all. I am fairly certain that he won’t kick John off if he continues to exercise his freedom of speech.
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    John, good to see you’ve recovered enough to indulge me in a laboured reply.

    Your response above though is a non-answer, imo. The Blog owner/host has just indicated a desire to stay on topic. I presume, at least for the time being. And Mary comes along a few minutes later and completely disregards the request. So is that behaviour not disrespectful and unhinged?
    _________________
    With regard to my turn-of-phrase I chose, yes I do admit it was a bit acerbic (pun intended). Deliberately so, as an attempt to discourage it. As for it being ‘disgusting’ (a) I think you’l harden up around here in time, and far more importantly, (b) I think while it is forthright, it is not cowardly as is the case with calling a regular contributor a troll. That I think is far more despicable. As I think you point out she is also being disrespectful of the voluntary Moderator in that regard?

  • Clark

    I think a big point is being missed. Some sort of international cooperation on taxation is needed in order to effectively tax multinational corporations. As things stand, corporations that straddle countries can simply declare their profits wherever it is cheapest for them to do so. Google were mentioned in this regard recently, paying just £20 out of each £6000 profit in the UK by declaring it in Bermuda, I think.

    There already exists an international layer of government in the United Nations, but its development has been held back by countries that refuse to accept its authority – notably “our side” led by the US.

    The UK is also a prime offender by maintaining so many tax havens around the globe in the form of non-administrative territories etc.

  • RobG

    John, one of the interesting things I’ve found about our most recent major economic crash (2008, and all that) is that although there has been a predictable rise in the far right (Front National, UKIP, etc), there’s been a much bigger swing to the left, not just in Europe, but also in America.

    This, despite the fact that the media is almost entirely controlled by the right wing.

    Murdoch’s tweets today have been both hilarious and insightful.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Well if you would stop ganging up on me..and slagging me off as if you are Boris Johnson and David Cameron..Trying to stick My Head Down The Toilet Before They Fuck Me Up My Bottom..I might talk to you…

    If you treat me with a bit of respect..as if you don’t totally hate me…

    I had to go old school..to make it sound right and in full high definition stereo..and for it to not drop out when I am dancing in my back garden…

    And they think…well there are simpler solutions..yes I know about them…

    But I want to stay connected to what is being broadcast live…

    Do you want to see what my phone can do too…Live HD Video Too

    Broadcast LIVE

    To whoever is in the Slightest Bit Interested..Like if I was a Younger Man and Had That Courage…

    To Do a Live Video Whilst The American and British Bombs are Coming In???

    Do You???

    Tony

  • lysias

    All that the Navy Times is reporting is the extremely unusual months-long failure of the Ronald Reagan to be sent to sea. But, when you combine all the reporting about radioactive contamination, the reason is quite clear.

    Fukushima Coverup: Sick US Navy Sailors’ Class Action Law Suit, US Government, Doctors Bury Truth about Fukushima Radiation.

    ‘Uncertain Radiological Threat’: US Navy Sailors Search for Justice after Fukushima Mission.

    Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue.

    The U.S. Defense Department similarly failed for years to recognize the reality of the health effects on its own soldiers (as well as on Vietnamese and Iraqis) of Agent Orange and Gulf War Syndrome.

    I well remember how I was sent, when I was working in the Pentagon, by my boss, the chief civilian lawyer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, to ask the chief doctor of the U.S. Army, a Dr. Blank, about what the story was with Gulf War Syndrome. Dr. Blank was aptly named. He pooh-poohed the whole thing. A perfect bureaucrat. Never mind the oath he swore as a doctor.

  • RobG

    Clark, we are not only being screwed-over by multi-national corporations, with TTIP they are taking over our rights as citizens.

    For anyone who grew up in an age when democracy still existed, this is breathtaking stuff, as are all the totalitarian laws that have been passed in recent years.

    We are not sleepwalking into 1984, we are rushing headlong into it.

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