We are directly responsible for the disasters in the Mediterranean. The bombing of Libya into failed state status is now coming back to haunt us. The ludicrous idea, propounded by Blair, Robert Cooper and the Henry Jackson Society, that you could improve dictatorial states by massive bombing campaigns that targeted their basic infrastructure, is now a total bust. Sadly so are Iraq and Libya, to the permanent detriment of many millions of people. We caused both the Islamic State and the Mediterranean boat disasters, and we caused them with bombs.
But the lack of any effective policing is only part of the problem. What makes people so desperate that they are prepared to give all of the small amount they own, to ruthless gangs, in exchange for a dreadful sea crossing with a one in ten chance of drowning? Most of the refugees are sub-Saharan African. We only see the European end of the saga, not the terrible conditions on the cross Saharan journeys that they start with.
There will be no security anywhere if the world does not address the terrible scourge of African poverty and under-development. That is a huge subject on which I have written extensively and worked much of my life, and I do not wish to open it here. But what it does show is the utter stupidity – inhumanity yes, but also stupidity – of UKIP in thinking that cutting development aid will increase the economic security of the UK.
On topic;
“This means humanitarian imperialism, as applied by the Pentagon/NATO/AFRICOM, handed the waters of the Club Med to the real winners: a vast human trafficking racket that includes smugglers, corrupt police and even “terra-rists”.”
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20150422/1021234376.html#ixzz3Y4TcZNlw
True to form, these highly-opinionated personas that show up to enforce 9/11 orthodoxy focus on a single narrow technical issue, usually some distorted form of the plane-crash inconsistencies.
In fact, the most damning evidence is the documented actions of US officials including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Myers, Richard Blee, Afreda Frances Bikowsky, Michael Ann Casey, Marion Bowman and numerous others. They include infiltration of hijackers into the US, countermanding standard response procedures, deceptive interference, and counterproductive ultra vires actions.
Daniel will say anything to avoid these issues. Watch.
Oh dear, we’re back to 9/11 conspiraloonery.
“On topic”
Thanks Macky. I trust the conspiracy theory nut jobs are able to read that. I certainly have no intention of continuing indulging their inflated egos.
“Oh dear, we’re back to 9/11 conspiraloonery.”
Did you read that Danielbots?
forum sliding of the first order
Quite an argument.
And actually, discussion of 9/11 is not so off topic in a thread dealing with the horror that we made Libya. It was the war on terror and the national security state unleashed after 9/11 that was able to perpetrate Libya, along with other atrocities.
Since any topic has long since gone under, no apologies for mentioning that Bambi, having tomorrow pranced round Georgetown University to deliver his vapid opinions on African development (read extractive industries and propping up the likes of Kagame and Kenyatta), will be indulged in a very private session with – get this – George McCain at Arizona University on Friday.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2015/04/22/tony-blair-join-mccain-sedona-forum/26153945/
Bet Miliband’s breathing a sigh of relief.
John McCain, son and grandson of four-star admirals bearing the same name.
Apologies, Lysias, slip of the head. John it is.
We made the horror in The Mediterranean..about 100 years ago..Who can we blame..but Us British??
We did it…
You can believe this or not…
I have Never Experienced a Warzone…and I think that makes Me INCREDIBLY Lucky in my Life..cos My Mum and Dad Did and My Brothers and Sisters…
However, I have Experienced The Real Experiences of British Soldiers who have come out of Warzones…some ..well one..who ..sorry forget that…
I have also experienced in The Greek Island of Naxos..a young lad..and his wife…
His wife was lovely..and the weather was fantastic..the little hotel on the beach was fantastic..yes we had been there before…but this guy hadn’t..He didn’t seem to have a clue how to communicate to either The Greek People or us Tourists..from all over Europe..so we gradually all worked out why he was behaving like that…
It would be too embarrassing to tell you all..and you would think I was being anti-semitic…and we weren’t we were as as nice as we could possibly be..but he was just ordering The Lovely Greek People around as if He was well like an Israeli IDF Soldier who had just killed several innocent Palestinian Children..and couldn’t get over what he had done..and..they sent him to a Greek Island..to chill out..and come back and kill more Palestinian kids on their own land..
He was as white as a sheet as if he had just arrived from Russia.
The poor sod…
But his wife was lovely.
Does that make me anti-Russian??
Does that make me anti-Semitic??
Do not click on This..It is Not Nice..
“Telling The Truth is Not a Crime. Do Not Allow Your Government To Make It One”
http://chrisspivey.org/%EF%BB%BFtelling-the-truth-is-not-a-crime-do-not-allow-your-government-to-make-it-one/
You can’t take it..If you are a human being the photos will make you throw up if you have never seen them before…and even if you have..I am warning you..do not do it.
Tony
“So Boris Nemtsov can quite clearly be seen as a US asset, though we all knew it anyway.”
You really are quite a disgusting piece of shit Johnnie Jackboots – US Assets and 5th columnists (your fascist terminology) can of course be liquidated without any remorse.
Anon1
22 Apr, 2015 – 9:40 pm:
“Oh dear, we’re back to 9/11 conspiraloonery.”
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I provided a link above (to the US Government EPA) which shows that North America is being fried with radiation. The rad stats I gave are from last week.
The cover-up of Fukushima is beyond belief. I’m not the only one who will tell you that this cover-up of Fukushima completely proves that the psychos who rule us are capable of anything, including 9/11.
“Conspiraloonery” is a good term, for people like you who buy into all the Establishment lies, spin and propaganda, most of which is easily dismantled.
The sad thing is that most people don’t seem to understand that these feckers have destroyed the planet.
So long, and thanks for all the fish…
You have to get your news from Russian sources about what’s happening in Ukraine because the west never reports it. 32 violations of the ceasefire in 24 hours today.
http://tass.ru/en/world/790923
Prediction verified! Daniel runs screaming from the topic he waded into with name-calling, ad hominem, and a frank capitulation – to the ‘loonies,’ ostensibly, not to the facts he can’t discuss. Because ass-kissing statist worm Daniel doesn’t dare touch probative evidence of serious official crimes. Let’s rub his nose in it one more time.
“So Boris Nemtsov can quite clearly be seen as a US asset, though we all knew it anyway.”
http://fortruss.blogspot.in/2015/03/moscow-us-embassy-cables-on-wikileaks.html
He should not have been killed because of his fifth columnist activities and retweeting, apparently, that Graham Phillips should be liquidated.
That’s the trouble with trolls. They think others here don’t read the links that they leave out in their cutting and pasting. In this case the leak came from Wikileaks and was directly under the quote the fascist supporter (and he’s not the only one) chose to extract. He is a Fascist supporter because he supports the Azov warriors who keep bombarding Shirokino, as they did today. With a bit more intelligence he might have made SIGINT but as it is he has to troll through blogs to spread his disinformation. 🙂
No wonder they have tried to blacken the name of Assange when Wikileaks spills the beans on people like Nemtsov and their fifth column. The link from YouKnowMyName yesterday revealing the extent of leakage and why the Yanks must be fouling their smalls.
“American cryptographer, computer security and privacy specialist and writer, Bruce Schneier, wrote a post on the Lawfare blog(*), saying that a number of whistleblowers appeared after Snowden, and that they’re providing information about the US intelligence community. Alongside [Assange/]Manning and Snowden, he thinks there are probably five more. . .”
That’s the kind of underground spore distribution we need more of rather than those who are all puff and puffball dust.
“Prediction verified! Daniel runs screaming from the topic he waded into with name-calling, ad hominem, and a frank capitulation – to the ‘loonies,’ ostensibly, not to the facts he can’t discuss. Because ass-kissing statist worm Daniel doesn’t dare touch probative evidence of serious official crimes. Let’s rub his nose in it one more time.”
Already discussed them. I recommend a relevant conspiracy theory forum of the “man never landed on the moon” variety.
The Yanks have only just arrived. It has given new heart to the fascists.
http://newrussia.press/military/fights-in-donbass-23-04-2014/
‘Them.’ Are you enormously stupid, or a simply a manipulative weasel? Who do you think you convinced with ‘them?’ Have you ever been in a place where that kind of half-assed stab at argumentation can cut it? If so, tell us where. It must be very sad.
Oh god, it’s not a school of some sort is it?
My wife and I try and Be that rock..that anchor..our home where our Children Grew Up..and whilst they might complain..boy and girl fighting like cat and dog..but surely that is just naturally competition..whilst they made their own independent friends..all you can do..I think is to try and make a happy home..a place of sanctuary..a place of peace..despite the occasional extremely loud heavy rock music..well and all the kid’s party stuff too…
If you keep moving around from one home to another all the time..how the hell are you going to establish any real roots.. any real friends…You Got to Anchor Yourself..If You Find Such a Lovely Girl..You Got To Be That Rock and Make That Home For Your Family..No Matter where they are in The World..No Matter what they are Doing…
They Can Always Come Home
They Grew Up Here
Mum and Dad are Still Here…
Rockin’ and Lovin’
Now where are those Babies…Come On…
We Want to Be Grand Parents Too
We ain’t Finished Yet…
Part Timers….
Tony xx
I have an Important Announcement to Make To All You Beautiful English Girls stick your rabbit away, and when you have really fallen in love with him..and you just know you want him forever..Road Test Him For a Year..Live With Him..See if You Can Really Get Along With Each Other..Then Arrange Your Wedding..Run Away If You Want..Get Married..Leave Them All Behind..Cos You Know It is Now OK…
we don’t just to do it for the sex…
we really want to make a baby
Best Fun in Your LIFE
Tony & Wife
xx
Course it is never that easy..and sometimes you just got to go with what you got..which is sometimes a lot of nothing except yourself..you have no one..no friends…nothing,,no one knows you and no one gives a hit whether you live or die
so what are you going to do lonely boy..if you have never had it…then you’ve never lost it…but what if you have..despite all the odds..you thought you would never find her..and then she’s gone..you just know you have lost her forever….
Well didn’t she give you Everything ..She Inspire You???
Was She Your Girl..or Not For a Year???
And Then You So it Again…
The Hardest Thing is To Get Started..and Then Getting Used To it.
Just Have The Courage..that I didn’t have for her..You were so in love with her when you were 16, that if you actually summoned up enough courage to ask for a date..you would totally fuck up even talking to her..cos you just knew how she would reply..but unless you ask..you don’t know the reply
Will you kind of come out with me.. a bit???be my friend??
Yes..We are Going Here….
Tony
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WTC7 see at least THREE corners of the 100yd LONG x 77yd WIDE structure come down simultaneously. It appears each corner was connected to the other by some magic matzo steel cable !!
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Check this https://youtu.be/38Vsv0eve_U?t=450
Those of us with memories will of course remember how the citizens of Eastern Europe were lied to about American tanks attacking Prague before The Soviets launched their own genuine tank invasion. Tank movements within Russia towards Ukraine, drone flights, and increasing attacks on Ukrainian positions in defiance of the ceasefire all indicate that a repeat performance may be in the offing.
Johnnie Jackboots is of course continues to regard opposition to Putin within Russia as being a 5th column rather than just a legitimate expression of free speech – the language and thought processes are of course all consistent with a fascist mindset, but he is too bigoted to realise that this is the case.
“Those of us with memories will of course remember how the citizens of Eastern Europe were lied to about American tanks attacking Prague before The Soviets launched their own genuine tank invasion.” This was followed by a load of bullshit from one with a headfull of the stuff.
Czechs today don’t want US jackboots on their soil anymore than they did the Soviets in 1968. In fact that is exactly what the US is doing today. Even if you had diplomatic or intelligence skills you could not have chosen a worse example.
http://rt.com/news/243073-czech-protest-us-tanks/
It’s the same thing. It was wrong when the Soveiet Union did it. It is wrong today. But today it has the support of Resident Dispicable.
You support the fifth column too, Nemtsov trying to overthrow the legitimate government of Russia with an event (which turned out to be the civil-war in Ukraine which has cost 6000 lives. Resident Despicable you are just that!
“It’s the same thing. It was wrong when the Soveiet Union did it. It is wrong today. But today it has the support of Resident Dispicable.” should read “It’s the same thing. It was wrong when the Soviet Union did it. It is wrong today. But today it has the support of Resident Despicable.
Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
“A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
“The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election:
Continues
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/confidential-email-shows-tories-secretly-holding-off-hospital-closures-until-after-election/