Julian Assange has asserted that MI5 are active against Scottish nationalists, as the independence movement is seen as a threat to the UK. Happily, Julian being Julian there is now some traction for this in the corporate media. When I posted on it last week I received nothing from the corporate media except dismissal and abuse over twitter.
I think it is worth repeating some of that twitter abuse for the benefit of anybody who has not fully appreciated the vitriol felt across the entire unionist media establishment towards anybody who queries the narrative they are paid to peddle.
If this doesn’t shake any residual belief in media impartiality, nothing will:
“Craig Murray is mad shocker.” James Bloodworth, The Independent
“Zooooooooooooooomer” Euan Mccolm, The Scotsman
“Craig Murray is obviously an MI5 plant. WAKE UP PEOPLE.” Kevin Schofield, The Sun
“Makes the X files look like Panorama” Rob Corp, BBC
“Cybernat bullying is an MI5 false flag operations, says former British Ambassador. Many Nats believe this stuff.” Iain Martin, the Daily Telegraph
“If you must tweet links to Craig Murray’s MI5 guff, take the SNP twibbon off your profile. That party rejected him as a candidate and rightly so.” Stephen Daisley, STV
“The comments under Craig Murray’s latest rant are really something.” Ross McCafferty, Daily Record
Is it not strange that such a broad spectrum of the mainstream media react with instant vitriol to the very notion that the security services are active against the Scottish independence movement, when we know for certain that environmental campaign groups have been heavily penetrated by agents and agents provocateurs? When such tactics have been used against the Irish Republican movement for decades? When our intelligence services were up to their ears in torture and extraordinary rendition and repeatedly lied about it? When Edward Snowden has revealed the massive scale of surveillance by GCHQ?
In the days when the corporate media had a monopoly on the dissemination of information, simply shouting “conspiracy theorist”, “tinfoil hat” and “lizards” at somebody, excluding them from corporate media access, would be enough essentially to prevent anybody from reaching the public with information. But that no longer works in the age of new media, and especially it doesn’t work in Scotland after the referendum experience.
The fact that my comments on MI5 dirty tricks were so instantly and so unanimously rubbished by the corporate media are more likely to make people realise there must be something to hide. None of the so-called “journalists” I have quoted above has ever tackled the fact that I blew the whistle on torture and extraordinary rendition, and that the government and security services lied about it then, with the support of establishment journalists. In fact I challenge all the named journalists above to say what they think about the sanctioning of intelligence from torture by Blair and Straw, and whether I was truthful in my whistleblowing. Perhaps some of you might be able to contact them to point out the challenge.
For the avoidance of doubt, let me spell this out. I have certain knowledge from an inside source that disruption of separatist activity in Scotland now features in MI5 tasking. The “tasking” of the security services – and that is what it is officially called – is a very formal written exercise conducted by the Joint Intelligence Committee on an annual basis, though it is possible (but very difficult) to insert new tasks in-year.
I have personally taken part – often – in Cabinet Office meetings of JIC sub-committees determining tasking, though in my case more for MI6 than MI5. It is a system I know very well. None of the “journalists” abusing me above has ever sat on a JIC committee. None of them actually know anything about it. None has contacted me to ask me why I have stated there is an MI5 anti-SNP operation. It is so much easier to collect your pay packet, quaff another Merlot and drunkenly catcall “zoooomer!”
You have to question the denials of people who should know better. Who do they work for?
Well said, Craig, and particularly, in what is now police state Britain you are quite literally risking your life to speak out.
Cue all the police state apologists…
What you scum have done to my country, you will be held accountable for.
Make no mistake about that.
Thank you, Craig.
What I find strange, is that evidence never seems to make any difference.
You can easily document the fact that allegations which you made a decade ago, and you were called a lunatic for, have turned out to be absolutely true. Do people who called you a lunatic sit down, put their chins in their hands and think things out a bit?
No. Doesn’t matter. It’s like there is a filter in the journalistic mind that is marked “Conspiracy Theory!”, and nothing can get through it.
Kind regards,
John
Is there a video of the conference anywhere id like to hear assange talk instead of 2nd hand reports in the MSM. Wasnt that long ago we had the scandel about undercover officers having kids with activists.
I still think Julian Assange is not spending all his time in The Ecudaoraian Embassy..and My Son Has Been On a 6 week Trip with His School Friends…when They had finished Their “A” Levels to Ecuador…
It was an AID Trip to Paint A School…
Fckin Nearly Killed the Kids..Both Boys and Girls..and The Bus Got lost..but My Lad got the very latest Satnav Hardware and Software Just Before They Left 9 Years ago…
When they finally got there..after 4 weeks in The Jungle…the locals said..do you really want to rebuild and paint our School..or Do you want to come down to the Ocean and see Ocean Life For Real…
So The Kids Had a Vote On It…..
Tony
The trouble is, Craig, that you are doing their job.
You are doing what journalists should be doing and can’t, for whatever reason. And they don’t like it.
Kind regards,
John
Forgive me for repeating this one again, but it really is a good interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUwC5JTAJY
It’s President Rafael Correa being interviewed by Julian Assange, and it took place just a few months before Correa granted Assange political asylum.
Who the fuck do you think is going to attack a bunch of Ten 17-18 year old English Kids From a Comprehensive School in England With One Teacher who doesn’t know the way..in The Depths of South America..where they had virtually no money and they were Trying To Give….when they had worked the Previous 2 years doing all the jobs they could working to collect the money to pay for the Trip…
I mean Seriously…There is Absolutely No One In The World…
And they look at the American Kids..Paid To Go With Their Guns..Go On ..Go and Kill..
You see People in Foreign Lands Can Tell The Difference Between The British and The Americans
Us British Go There Trying To Help
The Americans Go There Trying To Kill
Tony
Of course this has never happened before?
http://news.stv.tv/north/230588-police-are-probing-attacks-on-labour-and-tory-constituency-offices/
http://news.stv.tv/north/231191-police-are-probing-an-act-of-vandalism-at-aberdeens-marischal-college/
“You can easily document the fact that allegations which you made a decade ago, and you were called a lunatic for, have turned out to be absolutely true.”
Unfortunately allegations he made six months ago were wide of the mark.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/after-project-fear-expect-project-terror/
Fred
15/10/2015 10:51 pm
Does that mean that what he says is never to be taken seriously?
Kind regards,
John
“Does that mean that what he says is never to be taken seriously?”
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No, what it means is that you should not believe it simply because he says it.
“Does that mean that what he says is never to be taken seriously?”
It means it can never be relied on.
And just to say that the two comments I posted shortly after this new thread opened – they were the first two comments on the thread, actually – briefly appeared and then vanished…..
No, Fred. What Craig said was he ‘feared that’ a fake atrocity would be perpetrated. That’s not a prediction. And who knows whether the spooks had such a (typical) dirty trick on standby?
“Does that mean that what he says is never to be taken seriously?”
It means it can never be relied on.
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I have often thought that the creepy contributors that crawl out of the woodwork at no specific time, might not just be trolls but government trolls. Suddenly a three-card trick appears from nowhere to try and discredit a good piece of research. Well, well, well. Give them enough rope, eh?
“No, Fred. What Craig said was he ‘feared that’ a fake atrocity would be perpetrated. That’s not a prediction. And who knows whether the spooks had such a (typical) dirty trick on standby?”
Is there any evidence they did?
Is there any evidence MI5 sprayed graffiti in Aberdeen?
Right.
“Why do you low lifes”
Fuck off and die retard.
“I have often thought that the creepy contributors that crawl out of the woodwork at no specific time, might not just be trolls but government trolls.”
Well so long as it is our government and not the Russian government that doesn’t matter too much.
And just to say that the two comments I posted shortly after this new thread opened – they were the first two comments on the thread, actually – briefly appeared and then vanished…..
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That’s one for The X Files ! Mystery deepens ….
What we’re talking about is a bit of paint on a constituency office and a few nasty tweets. It’s hardly unusual nor is it going to undermine the cause of Scottish nationalism. The real problem is that Craig and others just can’t accept that in the broad spectrum of SNP supporters there are some lowlife who think this sort of thing helps their cause. Possibly their brains were addled with a few pints of heavy at the time, it’s not as if Aberdeen is a stranger to graffiti or Twitter otherwise devoid of nastiness as Sue Perkins would no doubt agree.
Imagining the hand of the security services in this trivia is understandably bound to attract derision.
Fred
15/04/2015 11:02 pm
“It means it can never be relied on”
Quite right. Nor can my statements, or yours, or anyone’s, if one has not actually done the work oneself.
That’s not the same thing as saying it should not be taken seriously.
Kind regards,
John
“You have to question the denials of people who should know better. Who do they work for?”
Johnny, quite right. It is a well-known fact that many news’ journalsits are agents, not just here but in the US too, possibly everywhere. Those not up to the mark get to troll the blogs. they set you tasks like Fred did this morning in response to Evgueni’s rasing of the MH15 downing. I was asked about satellite images provided by Russia regarding a fighter jet that was close to MH17 at the time of the shooting. Though busy I provided the link and never got any acknowlegement from Fred (why do I always want to take the ‘r’ out of your name Fred?)
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/a-game-of-substitution/comment-page-2/#comment-520022
This new thread is not the place to discuss that issue but if Fred clicks on the link and at least thanks me I should be so pleased. 🙂
Make the three-card trick at an earlier comment a ‘prial’ with the arrival of Kempe. Just waiting for a straight flush. I never, or very very rarely, gamble.
JSD: Does that mean that what he says is never to be taken seriously?
Fred: It means it can never be relied on.
Well, surely, since you’re commenting on his blog, Craig can both be taken seriously and not relied on: he deserves, and is open to, fair questioning.
Technicolour
Well put. J
“Well, surely, since you’re commenting on his blog, Craig can both be taken seriously and not relied on: he deserves, and is open to, fair questioning.”
That is what a comments section is actually for.
“That’s not the same thing as saying it should not be taken seriously.”
Everyone should be taken seriously but few people are.
Craig, having to appear on Russia Today shows that we have no independent ‘corporate media’. The media is frightened of the truth. It will reveal that channels we all trusted are, and have been for the last decade, a crock of shit.
Fred
16/04/2015 12:11 am
Mostly, the wrong people, unfortunately. J