The Lord President of Scotland’s judges, Lord Gill, has made a complete fool of himself by leading British judges in a walk-out from the Commonwealth Law Conference. The action is in protest against Julian Assange’s participation by video-link in a panel discussion on surveillance and the role of the security services.
The walk-out happened after Julian’s talk, not before it, which rather gives the impression that what Lord Gill and his fellow judges objected to was the content of Assange’s talk, rather than the fact of it. Assange stated among other points that nationalists were right to believe that MI5 were active against them in the referendum campaign.
The Assange talk proved extremely popular with lawyers and judges from all over the Commonwealth. In fact it had to be shifted to a larger room to accommodate them all. So it seems Lord Gill’s disinterest in the concept of freedom of speech is not widely shared in the Commonwealth.
What Gill and his Scottish and English colleagues could have done – and I presume actually did – was to boycott the Assange panel and simply attend other panels on at the same time. What they have now done is to boycott all the panels happening after the Assange talk is gone, at some of which some of the boycotters were due to be talking or chairing, as an attempt to mess up the conference as some childish kind of spiteful revenge.
The members of the English Supreme Court who took part in this action have demonstrated their extreme prejudice against Assange – who has exercised his right in law to claim political asylum and who has never been charged with anything.
Julian has today told me that he is concerned that their action is also prejudicial to the cases currently before the Swedish Supreme Court and the UN Committee on Arbitrary Detention. Quite why the English and Scottish judges were moved to this peculiar display of prejudice is not immediately clear; I suspect they were pushed. Lord Gill is an interesting example of the self-made lackey. If you always promote the interests of the Establishment, even a man of talent but humble origins can get to the top, provided he is an entirely unscrupulous character.
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In an effort to make Lord Gill and the judges look less like asses, it is being assiduously put about that they did not know Julian was going to speak before his appearance, and he unexpectedly appeared at the session. That this is a blatant lie is easily proved. Julian’s appearance was at short notice – a week. His name was in the conference programme, and the event was announced in the Scottish Legal press the day before it happened. Everyone at the conference knew Assange was appearing, that is why the room had to be changed for a larger one.
That our judges are not just asses but lying asses ought to be the source of some concern. Where is Lallands Peat Worrier when you need him?
“Like Mr Goss with his imaginary fascists in Kiev”
Noddy, Noddy, again diversionary tactics. There is nothing imaginary about this except the imaginary dismissal of the western-funded Kiev coup government you and Resident Dissident so obviously support.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/lord-gill-the-flouncing-fool/#comment-520360
“I will happily use the standard of the “fascist Theresa May” (your words not mine)”
Are they my words? If so prove it or retract. If you have the grace.
What Janner and the Zionist cohort in both Houses of Parliament support.
Nearly two hundred incidences of the Occupiers’ actions and atrocities in just one day.
http://www.nad-plo.org/userfiles/file/pmg-reports/dailyr/PMG.Daily.Sitrep.16.04.15.pdf
“I did not mention Jews.”
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You wrote the following, Mary:
“Trust that Cameron or Miliband make a better fist of forming a coalition than Bibi. LOL
Israeli coalition talks stuck
By Anshel Pfeffer, April 16, 2015
As the first deadline for forming a new government looms next week, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seems nowhere near building a coalition.
Of the five parties currently expected to join Likud in government, only one, United Torah Judaism (UTJ), is on the brink of signing an agreement. ”
As far as I’m aware, Netanyahu is a Jew and the members of Likud and United Torah Judaism are also Jews.
So you did mention Jews (in a typically off-topic post).
Cue Macky? 🙂
Resident Dissident re
For example, if someone appeals to the Euro Court of Human Rights against a decision of the UK’s Supreme Court, and wins, is that a contemptof the UKSC?
When one body of International law, encompassing the rights of asylum seekers to seek political asylum trumps the (deeply flawed) European Arrest Warrant system, are you saying that (in Assange’s case) Ecuador is also in contempt of UK Supreme Court judges?
Is it your view that the EAW system cannot ever be challenged and defeated by any other law, especially International law?
Is it your view the UK’s Supreme Court is the ultimate legal authority in the world? (because that’s really what you are inferring.)
Feel free to enlighten us, that you are not making a political point, as against a legal point.
@Cosmic Navel Lint,
I see you’ve posted that same nonsense, the long debunked Green article, on the Guardian several times. You seem to have a lot of allies too in the comments claiming Assange is a rapist. Where do they all come from?
btw the Swedish police are finally coming to London to interview Assange, something they could have easily done years ago.
http://news.yahoo.com/assange-agrees-questioned-london-lawyer-192520566.html
Resident Dissident
““You are going to have to remind me of this quotation and context!”
No Johnny Goosestep even you have the ability to search your old sayings”
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Well said, RD – the chutzpah of the Original Trolls and Useful Idiots is boundless! They post a stream of piss and then rely on others’ fading memories to deny they ever posted it.
Just like Mr Goss’s original “moment” ( the reference to the indigenous inhabitants of the Falklands)!
Andy
“btw the Swedish police are finally coming to London to interview Assange, something they could have easily done years ago.”
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In serious matters like these, Andy, it behoves you to be accurate and to read your sources carefully.
It is Swedish prosecutors and not the Swedish police who will be coming to London to inteeview Mr Assange.
There is so much dirt thrown around about Assange, like Becky Cohen’s comment last night.
“Hmmm…Hasn’t Julian Assange been accused of rape by two women, Craig?”
In Sweden consensual sex appears to go under the name ‘rape’ of which there are several categories if my understanding is correct. In Julian’s case, and neither of the accusers have accused him of this, there was no forceful penetration without consent.
One of the accusers, Anna Ardin, may well have been funded by the CIA for her anti-Castro groups thesis. While the words “Assange” and “rape” were splattered liberally all over the front pages of mainstream media, these women, the other one being Sofia Wilen, their names, because they are allegedly victims are not allowed to be spoken and Craig Murray, invited to BBC Newsnight, got reprimanded by Gavin Esler and Joan Smith for mentioning Anna Ardin. Her name was already well known.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/
I have read her thesis and nowhere does it question Guantanamo Bay and what any Castro-opposition group would do about its existence, the most important question to be asked in my opinion.
I made a post here https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/04/a-game-of-substitution/comment-page-2/#comment-519840
on 14th April at 8:20am mentioning that Julian would be speaking at the conference. That was the first I had heard of it, but IANAL, or judge, or Lord. Sounds rather Gilbert and Sullivan light Savoy operetta-like to me, remember that UK judges have always been kept away from real humans such as Julian for fear of catching something that spoils their particular prejudices/predilections.
meanwhile RobG (and I should add the caveat that I’m still trying to figure out the veracity of The Intercept)
the veracity of The Intercept is that UKUSA Military are banned for accessing that website, even from home, or they face disciplinary action and even sacking. This to me indicates a special meta-form of disinformation might exist on The Intercept and a few similar websites!
in fact, going further on Craig’s excellent blog with deeply nested quotes from The Register about Cryptome.org
I think that clarifies that point?
and news just-in, Tech-dirt (respected technology comment website) has noticed that The Intercept have more evidence that the Global War On Terror(TM) will never end, you can see why T.I. is banned for dot Mil workers…
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150414/14310630659/new-appointees-to-congressional-oversight-committees-have-deep-ties-to-militaryindustrial-contractors-cia.shtml
What should not be forgotten in the continual persecution by the mass media of Assange is what he actually revealed. Chelsea (formerly Bradley) Manning is serving 35 years for revealing what happened in Iraq. It is quite clear if Julian Assange went to Sweden without a guarantee that he would not not be extradited to the USA if it requested his extradition. In the interests of balance this is a US soldier, Ethan McCord’s, eye-witness account of what Wikileaks revealed.
https://www.facebook.com/RevNews/videos/488925801260987/
Remember too that Juian Assange already faced questioning at a police station in Sweden and was released with no further questions to answer and the right to leave the country. It was only when the pro-American lawyer Claes Borgström, of the firm Borgström & Bodström, took over that a European Arrest Warrant was issued as we pointed out in this article.
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2012/12/19/how-sweden-collaborated-with-cia-on-renditions-and-framing-of-assange/
This is interesting. It’s from some gentleman named David Lafferty on the comments section of the Herald Scotland Assange article linked to by Craig on the Assange Scotland thread.
Anyone have any idea if it’s true or baloney?
Kind regards, John
“Julian Assange has said that if he is jailed he is going to release evidence that up to 90% of UK MP’S and up to 90% of American Senators have offshore tax avoidance bank accounts.
He has also said that this is the reason why UK bankers have not been prosecuted. The MP’S are covering up for the bankers and the bankers are covering up for the MP’S.
No, the British are not just ignoring him, as of today it has cost this country about £20 million pounds for round the clock policing to catch him at the Ecuador Embassy.
No wonder this country and the Americans are desperate to catch him”
“It is quite clear if Julian Assange went to Sweden without a guarantee that he would not not be extradited to the USA if it requested his extradition” he almost certainly would have been extradited.
John Spencer-Davis at 11.02 am. If Wikileaks has that information I wish it would release it regardless. It is in the public interest to know. The Guardian says it’s true.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/jan/17/julian-assange-tax-wikileaks-swiss
Mike Leigh to make movie of Peterloo massacre
Veteran British director to return to 19th century for a film based on the 1819 Peterloo massacre in Manchester
17 April 2015
The director Mike Leigh’s next film will be Peterloo, a drama about the infamous 1819 massacre in Manchester, which killed an estimated 18 protesters and injured up to 700.
“There has never been a feature film about the Peterloo massacre,” Leigh told Screen International. “Apart from the universal political significance of this historic event, the story has a particular personal resonance for me, as a native of Manchester and Salford.”
The massacre occurred when government troops charged a crowd of around 60,000 people gathered in St Peter’s Field in Manchester to demand the reform of parliamentary representation.
The rally was organised by the Manchester Patriotic Union, who commissioned radical orator Henry Hunt to speak. But he was arrested shortly before the rally begun, and cavalry drew their sabres to try to disperse the gathered crowds, leading to confusion and loss of life.
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http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/apr/17/mike-leigh-to-make-movie-of-peterloo-massacre
Back to Percy Bysshe Shelley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Masque_of_Anarchy
“Men of England, heirs of Glory,
Heroes of unwritten story,
Nurslings of one mighty Mother,
Hopes of her, and one another!
What is Freedom? Ye can tell
That which Slavery is too well,
For its very name has grown
To an echo of your own
Let a vast assembly be,
And with great solemnity
Declare with measured words,
that ye Are, as God has made ye, free.
The old laws of England—they
Whose reverend heads with age are grey,
Children of a wiser day;
And whose solemn voice must be
Thine own echo—Liberty!
Rise, like lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number!
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you:
Ye are many—they are few!”
“Rise, like lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number!
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you:
Ye are many—they are few!”
One of my favourite radical poems. He was only young when he died and this poem reveals the fiery spirit that young people possess in their pursuit of justice. Give it a few years and they end up like Noddy and Resident Dissident, part of the establishment disinformation service. He could have worked on the penultimate line of this versed but I would like to think that Shelley would have stayed faithful to his youthful visions. Both he and Mary Shelley read Hermsprong and Man as he is by Robert Bage. Mary Wollsonecraft reviewed them and Godwin visited Bage at his paper mill in Elford. Strange how such a popular novelist in his day could be almost forgotten now.
Thanks Mary.
versed = verse
Thanks, John. Nothing surprises me any more.
J
While Julian Assange, wanted in the US, has had his liberty technically removed for consensual sex with two Swedish women, US army personnel walk free after raping children and selling the footage as porn. Has the world gone mad?
http://anonhq.com/us-soldiers-rape-minor-colombian-girls-sells-footage-porn/
The key that Shelley does not give to you:
No cultural interlude will create a mind that’s new.
Quote, quote, quote; that’s all ye can do
The second-hand human being reveals no truth.
US paratroopers landed in Ukraine
https://twitter.com/FarEasterner/status/588976166553399296
Villager You don’t hack it.
Oh no Mary, not nearly as well as you do, with all your relentless, feverish cutting-and-pasting.
John Spencer-Davis
17 Apr, 2015 – 11:02 am
This is interesting. It’s from some gentleman named David Lafferty on the comments section of the Herald Scotland Assange article linked to by Craig on the Assange Scotland thread.
Anyone have any idea if it’s true or baloney?
Kind regards, John
“Julian Assange has said that if he is jailed he is going to release evidence that up to 90% of UK MP’S and up to 90% of American Senators have offshore tax avoidance bank accounts.
AND
John Goss
17 Apr, 2015 – 11:11 am
John Spencer-Davis at 11.02 am. If Wikileaks has that information I wish it would release it regardless. It is in the public interest to know. The Guardian says it’s true.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/jan/17/julian-assange-tax-wikileaks-swiss
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John Goss,
“Julian Assange has said that if he is jailed he is going to release evidence that up to 90% of UK MP’S and up to 90% of American Senators have offshore tax avoidance bank accounts.”
Pray, where does The Guardian say the above statement (ascribed to Julian Assange) is true?
Are you getting a little carried away with your propaganda? Why do I have the feeling that you are trying to deliberately mislead us?
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JSD, I am surprised that you bought that assertion of JG so readily, when you are normally quite cautious. Btw, your point about ‘Lord’ Janner and the CT Scan was actually a very good one. If I am correct the DPP’s statement indicated to the effect that Janner was not faking it. I am not convinced. Otoh, maybe Janner’s fright of the present stark reality has tipped him ove furtherr; that is a distinct possibility.
Whatever, I don’t think this is the end of the matter and I expect there is more to come.
Think you missed Villager’s point there, Mary. Which (if I’m right) is not unrelated to this one.
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/tomlinson/
I only wish I could write well enough not to have to quote it….
Villager
Feverish? My temperature and blood pressure are perfectly normal.
Yours?
Ba’al Perhaps it’s the sort of thing that is taught down at the Krishnamurti school. Kipling is obviously not my bag.
https://www.brockwood.org.uk/
Ba’al Zevul
17 Apr, 2015 – 1:10 pm
Komodo, why is it that I get a blank when I try to open your link?
Has the Whimpering Mary hacked it?
Villager
“The key that Shelley does not give to you:
No cultural interlude will create a mind that’s new.
Quote, quote, quote; that’s all ye can do
The second-hand human being reveals no truth.”
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Excellent, Villager – pithy, witty and oh so relevant to certain Eminences on this blog! 🙂
And it most certainly does hack it, hence the Crone’s instant but feeble response!