Born Kneeling 1248


What comes out to me from the “Black Spider letter” correspondence of Prince Charles published today is how utterly obsequious Tony Blair and New Labour ministers were to him. No sign whatsoever of radicalism from the former “People’s Party” as they fell over to ingratiate themselves with the heir to the throne. I rather enjoyed Charles quite sharp tone to Blair.

I am fundamentally opposed to the existence of the monarchy. It will hopefully be replaced by a better system, but no human system is perfect. Given that we have a monarchy at present, you will perhaps be surprised to learn that I do not see anything wrong in Charles’ letters, which put forward views which are much what we would have expected him to hold. Of course there is interaction between the monarchy and government, and of course we should get rid of this hereditary element. But Charles’ lobbying is hugely less damaging and pernicious than the corporate lobbying I witnessed throughout my Whitehall career. At least Charles is not lobbying them for corporate advantage and giving large political donations at the same time.

While in my view he did nothing wrong in writing the letters, he and government are both very wrong in arguing they should be private. It is when it is secret that such attempts to wield influence between two branches of government – and monarchy is a branch of government – can be most simply perverted to ill ends. That such publication will not occur again because government has legislated to keep it secret, is an example of the privileged arrogance that prevents this from being a genuine democracy.

Altogether not that big a story and it gives Rusbridger and the Guardian the chance to pose as radical. I find the fact that what is published is so anodyne and unobjectionable rather suspicious – what has not been published? Rusbridger is of course the editor who complied enthusiastically with a GCHQ instruction to smash the Snowden hard drives. The existence of other copies does not justify this any more than it justifies book-burning.

By coincidence, a very worthwhile article by Michael Gillard that had been excised from the net has recently been republished, setting out how Rusbridger in 2002 conspired with Andy Hayman of the Met to bury an investigation into police corruption, including the burglary of the Stephen Lawrence inquiry. By a further coincidence I was having a pint with Laurie Flynn in Sandy Bell’s four days ago.

Hayman went on to be the promoter of the stream of lies about the murder of Jean Charles De Menezes and the publicist of numerous fake terrorist plots, before having to resign in a scandal involving nubile police officers at public expense in tropical islands.

Rusbridger and his extraordinary wig go on and on as a pretend opposition outlet, their reputation much dented by recent hysterical unionist output which exceeds the Daily Express. But Rusbridger’s continued usefulness to the establishment is not in doubt. The pose of publishing the most harmless of Prince Charles’ letters does little to help a threadbare disguise.


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  • John Spencer-Davis

    Resident Dissident
    16/05/2015 2:28pm

    “Worth noting that apart from Anon1 there has not been a smidgen of criticism of this piece of stinking shit.”

    It’s also worth noting that all three of these bastards were, at one time or another, heartily supported politically and economically by Western powers, including governments of the UK, in the full knowledge of what they were doing inside and outside their own borders. As long as they were useful, nobody could have cared less. So it’s no wonder that the ordinary person hardly knows what to believe any more.

    Kind regards,

    John

  • Resident Dissident

    John Spencer

    How about starting with the Amnesty International reports.

    I shall not offer kind regards as that would be hypocritical

    @Goss
    “I would criticise Gaddafi, Saddam and Ceausescu for the gross faults in their reigns” But instead you excuse and justify their behaviour and call Gaddafi a great socialist – but then the ends always justified the ends for your type. Holding back criticism until there is a fair trial has never been a noticeable feature of your psyche in the past.

  • Rehmat

    David Cameron’s Tories won as result of the party received the largest donations (£8,345,687) from large financial corporations – and was supported by the UK’s Jewish media mughals; Rupert Murdock and Alexander Lebedev.

    Scotland first minister Nicola Ferguson Sturgeon’s Scottish National Party (SNP) made a sweeping election 2015 victory by winning 56 out of 59 Scottish seats in the UK’s parliament. The three seats lost by SNP are shared by pro-Israel Cameron’s Conservatives, Ed Miliband’s Labours, Nick Clegg’s Liberal Democrats, and Nigel Farage’s UK Independence Party (UKIP). All three opposition party leaders have step-down – a small victory for the Brits who want to see their country free of Israeli grip.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/05/16/scotland-the-jewish-lobby-got-defeated/

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Resident Dissident
    16/05/2015 3:45pm

    Suit yourself.

    And your point is what? I said they were all bastards. I don’t need Amnesty International reports to tell me that.

    My point is, that Western powers, including the UK, will happily support the biggest bastards in the world as long as it suits them to do so. Karimov is another case. I would probably never have heard the name Karimov if I wasn’t aware of Craig Murray. And here he’s been boiling people alive, pleased to have rape rooms, torturing his political opponents, torturing innocent people to get false information to suit the purposes of the US and the UK, working children to death, and who in the UK government cared? The only reason we have heard the names Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, or Ceausescu is that at one time or another they have been able to serve as convenient demons for the Western media.

    J

  • Johnstone

    Abe Rene 10am
    Dzkhar Tsarnaev’s death sentence… He was supposed to die that day of the lock down (or at least vanish off the face of the earth like his brother) cos the dead can’t dance but they can’t speak either!

  • Abe Rene

    @ Fedup: It is good to know that the law will take its course with the bomber. An important part of preventing the seduction of young men by Islamist propaganda is IMO to identify bitterness and its causes, and how bitterness can be exploited. A good American film about how bitterness in a Western academic could be exploited is So proudly we hail starring Edward Herrmann and David Soul as a neo-Nazi, one of his best acting performances.

    On the subject of Islamist terrorism, I saw an excellent film this afternoon, “Spooks: the greater good”, based on the BBC series of a few years ago, and just as good. Highly recommended!

  • Republicofscotland

    “RoS’ post of 10:51pm reads like it could have been lifted from any number of conspiracy-orientated sites which offer in almost word for word likeness the very simplistic explanations for the circumstances leading to the Iranian coup you see in the comments of any blog when the word ‘Iran’ is mentioned. I advise you to read a book on the subject, RoS, even if it is one that comes to favourable conclusions for you, because you seem to have a very basic understanding of events, probably based entirely on information gleaned from a website like rense or whatreallyhappened that you have bookmarked and at the ready for just such an occasion as this. And it shows.”
    ___________________________________

    Anon1

    Of course it must be a conspiracy thoery in your eyes,the US and the UK would never conspire against a Middle Eastern country would they now.

    I suppose poor old Colonel Nasser,must have been a conspiracy theorist as well,over the Suez Canal.

    A wee tip Anon1 if you’re going to write long winded comments please please please use paragraphs,otherwise no one will read them.

  • fedup

    Abe you got the memo pretty quick there, and now you have the movies and the talking pints to go on spamming the joint to your hearts content.

    The bitterness, doesn’t come form constant racial profiling, harassment, discrimination, and torrents of racist bilge shoved as “freedom of expression” but from the online stuff as your boss puts it;

    “There are downsides to the internet.

    “Some websites are dangerous for us.”

    Now you are pushing for friendly spies to be watching everyone every minute of the day for the sake of keeping them safe. Safe from whom Abe?

    The jig is up Abe, and you know it too, but you won’t relent cuz that is the kind of obsessive–compulsive disorder that your kind prides itself in, calling it; perseverance!

    Who do you think will be watching the shit that is being screened? Unless your boss starts paying people to sit and watch the it too.

  • Republicofscotland

    Re the Saddam comments,when Iraq invaded Iran in 1980 it was at the bequest of countries like the US and Britain,the British taxpayer helped to arm Saddam to the teeth.

    Of course after the war the west felt Saddam to powerful in the Middle East,and they set about finding a way to depose him,after he said at the 1989 Arab League summit,if Israel attacks an Arab country we have the means to burn Israel,and in Kuwait they had the perfect foil.

    Like many leaders of countries around the world,the west used Saddam,(Britian even invited Tariq Aziz to 10 Downing st,where he was greeted by Douglas Hurd) and when he served their purpose no more they deposed him,under the age old guise of freedom and democracy.

    What Cleisthenes would have thought about the wests attitude towards democracy in the Middle East today,is anyones guess.

  • Republicofscotland

    “When justice eventually prevails Gaddafi, Saddam and Ceausescu will not go down in the history books as tyrants, but as those who opposed the tyrants.”

    Worth noting that apart from Anon1 there has not been a smidgen of criticism of this piece of stinking shit.
    ___________________________

    Why should there be criticism of it,the west has been a major factor in just about every war since WWII.

    The above names and many more,have colluded with the west at one time or another,and when they outlive their usefulness,they’re branded tyrants dictators and despots.

  • Republicofscotland

    On the subject of Islamist terrorism, I saw an excellent film this afternoon, “Spooks: the greater good”, based on the BBC series of a few years ago, and just as good. Highly recommended!”
    ______________________________

    Oh yeah, is that the same BBC whose reporting is inconsistent.

    Former BBC Middle East correspondent Tim Llewellyn wrote in 2004 that the BBC’s coverage allowed an Israeli view of the conflict to dominate, as demonstrated by research conducted by the Glasgow Media Group.

    In the course of their “Documentary Campaign 2000–2004,” Trevor Asserson, Cassie Williams and Lee Kern of BBCWatch published a series of reports The BBC And The Middle East stating in their opinion that “the BBC consistently fails to adhere to its legal obligations to produce impartial and accurate reporting.”

    Whatever the BBC reports or airs take it with a big pinch of salt.

  • Abe Rene

    @ Fedup I am calling, not for everyone to be spied on, but to watch out for bitterness. It is a deadly temptation.

    As for the film, it is cracking good entertainment. So those who don’t see it will be missing something!

  • Mary

    Nuff said.

    Spooks – The Greater Good

    TOMATOMETER
    59%
    Average Rating: 5.5/10
    Reviews Counted: 22
    Fresh: 13
    Rotten: 9

    AUDIENCE SCORE
    71% liked it

    Average Rating: 3.6/5
    User Ratings: 812

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spooks_the_greater_good/

    What a load of rubbish.

    Movie Info – When charismatic terrorist Adam Qasim escapes from MI5 custody during a routine handover, the legendary Harry Pearce, Head of Counter-terrorism, is blamed. Disgraced and forced to resign, no-one is surprised when Harry disappears one night off a bridge into the Thames…With MI5 on its knees in the wake of the Qasim debacle and facing controversial reform, former agent Will Crombie is brought back to uncover the truth they feared – Harry’s still alive. He’s gone rogue, and needs Will’s help. As Qasim prepares his devastating attack on the heart of MI5 in London, Will must decide whether to turn Harry in – or risk everything by trusting the damaged, dangerous master spy who has already betrayed him once before………

    Same old, same old. Goodies and Baddies. The Baddy is of course a person with a brown skin.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Republicofscotland
    16/05/2015 5:58pm

    Aw fae fuck’s sake they Times cunts dinnae ken thir fuckin erses fae thir fuckin elbows…

    Apologies to Irvine Welsh.

    J

  • Abe Rene

    PS. I fear that the recent sentence against Morsi will do more harm than good. Injustice creates just the sort of bitterness that I have referred to. The Egyptian government imprisoned and finally hanged Sayyid Qutb in the 1960s and quite a few Islamists have been influenced by him and his works. Making a martyr out of Morsi is not a good idea. Even if he is considered dangerous it would be better to let him retire somewhere quietly.

  • ------------·´`·.¸¸.¸¸.··.¸¸Node

    Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were undoubtedly hard men – they had to be to run countries composed of clans in bitter rivalry. They were given a choice by external enemies – betray your country and stay in power, or fight for your country and die. Their choice puts to shame the cowardly traitors that run the UK.

  • Resident Dissident

    If the usual suspects think that the behaviour of the West justified the atrocities committed against their own people by Saddam, Ceaucescu, Gaddafi (and I daresay others e.g. Assad, Putin, Stalin) – and the recent comments here suggest they do then it speaks volumes for them and their lack of respect of universal human rights. Quite what they are doing on the blog of a human rights activist really does defy explanation – they will excuse any abuse of human rights providing the perpetrator opposes the evil US, UK, forces of Zionism, Khazars, Rothchilds etc.etc.

  • RobG

    Very high radiation spikes across the USA this last week…

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/15/your-radiation-this-week-7/

    50 CPM is an alert level. Some areas are getting ten times that, yet zilch about it in the MSM. As well as the ongoing Fukushima disaster these high rad readings are no doubt due to the recent forest fires near Chernobyl…

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/28/us-ukraine-fire-idUSKBN0NJ25F20150428

    People in western Europe might have been relieved that the prevailing winds took all the radioactive crap that was released by the forest fires eastwards, and on to North America, but don’t worry folks, the jet stream will ensure that we will still get a dose in a week or so’s time.

    Welcome to the planet Earth in the 21st century.

  • lysias

    Saddam was given a suit two size bigger to attend his trail (kangaroo court, that kept changing presiding judges because they were considered lenient) this was to “humiliate him”. That is the extent of the mentality of the pygmies minds who are busy pushing the narrative.

    Just like Roland Freisler, the hanging judge of Hitler’s People’s Court (Volksgericht), made defendants wear trousers without belts, so that they had to keep holding their trousers up with their hands. He also kept shouting abuse at them. Did that also happen at Saddam’s trial?

  • Anonl

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    Those nutty, nutty North Koreans. Do you know what those nutty nuts said at the US Universal Periodic Review? They actually said – I swear to God, really – they actually said the USA should submit its torturers to an international tribunal – as if the US was not perfectly and totally capable of prosecuting its torturers itself, if it ever had any. Like, just because State or Justice didn’t read the report, it means they won’t, or are scared to, or something crazy like that. Those nutty, nutty nuts. Crazy nutty North Koreans. Who could ever agree with such crazy nutty nuts about anything?

  • Mary

    I remember this humiliation. For the public gaze.

    As the caption says, ‘English: A doctor performing a health check on Saddam Hussein after his arrest. The publication of this image was considered by many to be a breach of the Geneva Convention.’

    Date 15 December 2003 (original upload date)’
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saddam_mouth_inspection.jpg

    and of course the hanging was filmed and shown on screens.

    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v193311w8ZTcCNh?h1=SADDAM+FULL+EXECUTION+(HANGING)

    I assume it is on the link. I have not watched it.

    To think we had moved on from heads on pikes on London Bridge and public hangings.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita e' bella)

    Mr Goss

    “..North Korea, another country without a Rothschild central bank.”

    ——————–

    2A Rothschild central bank – let’s tease out Mr Goss’s “thinking” here, shall we?

    Central banks are state bodies; they were created by the state and are run by the state. Every state has one.

    If central banks are “Rothschild” central banks, the logic of that is that states are run by the Rothschilds.

    Would Mr Goss like to tell us if he believes that is the case?

    Thank you.

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