What comes out to me from the “Black Spider letter” correspondence of Prince Charles published today is how utterly obsequious Tony Blair and New Labour ministers were to him. No sign whatsoever of radicalism from the former “People’s Party” as they fell over to ingratiate themselves with the heir to the throne. I rather enjoyed Charles quite sharp tone to Blair.
I am fundamentally opposed to the existence of the monarchy. It will hopefully be replaced by a better system, but no human system is perfect. Given that we have a monarchy at present, you will perhaps be surprised to learn that I do not see anything wrong in Charles’ letters, which put forward views which are much what we would have expected him to hold. Of course there is interaction between the monarchy and government, and of course we should get rid of this hereditary element. But Charles’ lobbying is hugely less damaging and pernicious than the corporate lobbying I witnessed throughout my Whitehall career. At least Charles is not lobbying them for corporate advantage and giving large political donations at the same time.
While in my view he did nothing wrong in writing the letters, he and government are both very wrong in arguing they should be private. It is when it is secret that such attempts to wield influence between two branches of government – and monarchy is a branch of government – can be most simply perverted to ill ends. That such publication will not occur again because government has legislated to keep it secret, is an example of the privileged arrogance that prevents this from being a genuine democracy.
Altogether not that big a story and it gives Rusbridger and the Guardian the chance to pose as radical. I find the fact that what is published is so anodyne and unobjectionable rather suspicious – what has not been published? Rusbridger is of course the editor who complied enthusiastically with a GCHQ instruction to smash the Snowden hard drives. The existence of other copies does not justify this any more than it justifies book-burning.
By coincidence, a very worthwhile article by Michael Gillard that had been excised from the net has recently been republished, setting out how Rusbridger in 2002 conspired with Andy Hayman of the Met to bury an investigation into police corruption, including the burglary of the Stephen Lawrence inquiry. By a further coincidence I was having a pint with Laurie Flynn in Sandy Bell’s four days ago.
Hayman went on to be the promoter of the stream of lies about the murder of Jean Charles De Menezes and the publicist of numerous fake terrorist plots, before having to resign in a scandal involving nubile police officers at public expense in tropical islands.
Rusbridger and his extraordinary wig go on and on as a pretend opposition outlet, their reputation much dented by recent hysterical unionist output which exceeds the Daily Express. But Rusbridger’s continued usefulness to the establishment is not in doubt. The pose of publishing the most harmless of Prince Charles’ letters does little to help a threadbare disguise.
Who is this Clive getting mentioned?”
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Here you go Phil.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clive
Node
You cheer one side who you consider currently slightly less worse than others. The problem is that bigotry, the idea of an inferior other, is baked into all empires. Your favourite is only by your own admission currently slightly better than the worse. By cheering this you cheer the system that produces hatred. Next year you might be qutoing from a report saying the other empire are now no longer the most repressive. It’s inevitable.
Rather than cheering the least reppressive empire why not oppose all empire?
More links here RoS on Faslane. John Hilley protests there.
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1431868385.html
Fedup
“Stop conflating the “Jews” with the conspiratorial banksters who are enjoying the protection of the old prejudices and the smoke screen of antisemi……”
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What shameless hypocrisy from one of this blog’s leading Jew-baiters and Jew-haters!
In the face of the increasing number and increasding violence of Fedup’s posts I will offer him a friendly bit of advice : put a sock in it, you don’t want to go inside again, do you?
Your absence for a good six months some while back refers. 🙂
More links here RoS on Faslane. John Hilley protests there.”
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Thanks for the links Mary,the Devenport one I knew of when gathering info during the referendum.
It’s just a matter of time until a serious accident occurs aboard these radioactive leviathons.
Who could forget the Russian government,letting the trapped submariners die in their flagship sub the Kursk.
Of course the official story was the explosion was due a internal incident.
Something that realistically could befall a HMS nuclear sub,due to their very poor condition,and shoddy management by a egotistical MoD.
Fedup
“Hang on! You have conflated the Jews with banking again! This holds that every Jew is a bankster!”
Fedup, repeating bullshit is an effective tactic of propagnada. I will point out, one last time, the conflation between jews and banking was made on this page, including by you, long before I jumped in. I challenged this conflation that you were perpetuatiung with fascinating and amazing facts about jews nazis and bankers.
You are being a right old knob as we say down our road.
Phil : “You cheer one side who you consider currently slightly less worse than others.”
Where? I said “My motivation is not to defend Russia”. It’s to counter propaganda.
You are totally missing my point. I referred to the statistical differences between treatment of LBGT in Russia and the USA because (1) it gives the lie to the propaganda, and (2) you said it was not quantifiable.
Richard Suchet who has been covering the Thomas Cook scandal is an excellent reporter on Sky News. His uncle is John Suchet.
John Suchet is the father of Rory Suchet who is a news anchor for RT and based in Moscow, also excellent at his job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Suchet
Phil.
To get anything into Palestine who do you have to circumvent?. Answer, Israel. Right or wrong?.
John Goss is doing something wonderful to help the people of Palestine.
Now if I make a donation and the Israelis grab hold of it I would very, very, very angry. Therefore, I wanted to know how he would get past the Jews to be able to deliver help.
Just for the record, every Jew is an Israeli at heart. Are they not?
After all, Israel is their Mecca, is it not?
After all, is Israel not a Jewish country?.
Node
Right back at you with added emphasis: you are totally missing my point.
You decry propoganda and then quote one report of statitistics that convinces you one side is better than the other. Come on mate. Tha’s absurd.
My point simply is that by cheering for one side of empire because you perceive that currently it is marginaly less repressive (but still really, really fucking oppressive) you misplace your energy. Why not attack the notion of empire instead?
“Just for the record, every Jew is an Israeli at heart. Are they not?
After all, Israel is their Mecca, is it not?
After all, is Israel not a Jewish country?.”
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Robert Crawford.
I find myself defending the indefensible,or so to speak, I would say that in part it’s the Zionist aspect of Israel,combined with a right-winged government that fuels the carnage in Palestine.
It should not be antisemitism that comes fore but rather a awareness that Zionism,is the predominant driver of the cultural blood letting.
Zionism was largely the creation of athestic Jews in the late nineteenth century by Theodore Herzel,whose theory was that Jews were not a religious group but a nation.
This unfortunate thesis lead the Jews to believe that they needed a homeland of their own.
This is preposterous. The notion that is being forwarded by you, through conflating the Jews and the Banking (no one else mentioned Jews other than you). Then you start thrashing around and try to square the round peg by blaming everyone except your own flawed judgment and knee jerk reaction in an autonomic fashion; conflating Rothschild with Jews!
Fact that fascists and supremacists use the “Jewish” smoke screen, the banksters use the “Jewish” smoke screen is as plain as the day is long. In fact it has been long since Jews became white as Irish have done so, and it is now the turn of the Muslims to be the subject of the same treatment; discrimination, condescension, racism, ………
However the fact remains; the ex pawn merchants made banksters have been for long perpetrating a fraud upon the world and taking cover behind all manner of barricades. You mention capitalism a catch all and a meaningless slogan.
The fact that money and its scarcity are at the roots of the current demise of the swathes of humanity that are subject to injustice of joblessness, under deployed, under utilized, discounted, ……….
A system that discounts such a complex machine as human beings, is an unfit system that belongs to dustbin and ought not be adulated, promoted, or sustained through a myriad of frauds including the “Jewish Banker bullshit”. Banksters are fraudsters regardless of their religion! Banksters are at the roots of the current corrupt political constructs. Bnaksters are solely to be blamed for the grotesque inequality of productivity and utility of human beings.
Robert
“John Goss is doing something wonderful to help the people of Palestine.”
Don’t make me laugh. Is that John ‘Marks and Sparks’ Goss you’re talking about? Or did he not mention his previous corporate sponsorship for his ‘art’. You bleeding heart hypocrites.
Redup
“no one else mentioned Jews other than you”
No one mentioned jews except me? Phew. A truly bizarre claim in the face of overwhelming evidence. In the comments above.
Audacious or deluded? No idea but It’s hard to discuss anything with someone so removed from the truth.
Another post from the excellent John Hilley on Medialens. We all wish Mhairi well. ‘Nearly all of us’ I should say perhaps!
Lovely humility: Mhairi Black’s great diary account of first week as MP
Posted by John Hilley on May 17, 2015, 2:35 pm
Mhairi Black’s Diary of a novice MP … our heroine goes through looking glass into the world of Westminster
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1431869755.html
I am going off-line now folks.
First thing to-morrow morning I am going into hospital to have a kidney removed,(cancer they think) because of the size of it (17 centimetres).
I am not worried about the operation. I am more concerned about being infected with M.R.S.A. again.
I turned down a hernia operation there just recently, and had a row with Nicola Sturgeon, because they would not give me a referral to another hospital. My GP made it clear to them on both occasions that I was concerned about getting M.R.S.A. again.
To give the Urologist his due, he did offer me a referral.
I decided to put them to the test and let them try their luck, again.
I have prepared for the worst and I am hoping for the best.
If I don’t survive, I get out of Scotland on the cheap as I was planning to leave because I did not get my Independence. Also, I will find out if we have been sold a “pup” with “Heaven and Hell”. If I can I will let you know, ha bloody ha.
It would be good if they have been telling us the truth.
Speak to you in a couple of weeks.
Robert.
O dear. It’s Jews, banksters, Illuminati Mason time again, I see.
I’ll just chuck this in to complete the picture. Someone may read it:
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/05/new-labour-leaders-want-to-go-back-to-blairs-policies-that-blew-up-the-uk.html
….Blair endorsed the key dynamic that destroyed effective regulation in the U.S. and the EU – the regulatory “race to the bottom.” Blair emphasized repeatedly the need for the UK to “win” this “competitive” race to the bottom. But he also tied winning this competition to the willingness of UK citizens to “accept the risks” that the citizens of India and China were “prepared to accept.”
‘Business is more globally competitive than it has ever been. With these new opportunities come new risks, new dilemmas. A natural but wrong response is to retreat in the face of this change. To regulate to eliminate risk. To restrict rather than enable. But we pay a price if we react like this. We lose out in business to India and China, who are prepared to accept the risks.’
That is an extraordinary statement for a “Labour” leader. Blair was urging UK workers and consumers to “accept the risks” that poor workers and consumers in very poor nations “are prepared to accept” when they work in unsafe factories and buy products such as counterfeit medicines….
Central to the argument, I think.
Best wishes, Robert. Posts crossed, sorry.
Hope all turns out well Robert Crawford.
Robert Crawford
17/05/2015 3:55pm
Best of luck. I wish you well.
Kind regards,
John
Best of luck, Robert.
I hope the operation goes well, and the MRSA stays well away.
I am so sorry Robert. I do hope all goes well. They are much hotter on MRSA now. Everyone being admitted to a ward or department has to be swabbed in their nasal cavity and the groin area.
Isn’t it marvellous that we were provided with two kidneys. Small comfort to you at the moment though. A friend who is a retired endocrinology consultant and who is in Gaza at the moment, donated one of his kidneys last year and is fine.
http://www.giveakidney.org
Will be thinking of you.
Phil, as somebody once said “repeating bullshit is an effective tactic of propaganda.”
You accuse me of cheering for one side. I have asked you to point out where I do this. You ignore my request and repeat the accusation. I explained why I referred to those statistics but you ignore me and provide your own explanation which suits your argument better.
This conversation is going nowhere. I’m off out to have a bonfire.
“That is an extraordinary statement for a “Labour” leader. Blair was urging UK workers and consumers to “accept the risks” that poor workers and consumers in very poor nations “are prepared to accept” when they work in unsafe factories and buy products such as counterfeit medicines…”
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It wasnt just Blair,who saw UK workers as a burden, Gordon Brown refused to give fire fighters a wage rise,but the same week he cut a blank cheque,a whatever it takes,for the war on Iraq.
No money to pay those who rescue our lives from fire,but a whatever it takes to set other folk on fire in a foreign land.
“No money to pay those who rescue our lives from fire,but a whatever it takes to set other folk on fire in a foreign land”
Yes. When was the last time we didn’t go to war on the grounds that we couldn’t afford it? Those who don’t like too much talk about the influence of banks might like to answer that one without mentioning banks.
Robert Crawford, good luck with your operation. Speak to you in a couple of weeks.
As to getting donations past Israel I have put everything on trust. I had to pay for entry and I hope any surplus will go directly to the Palestinian cause. Youngest MP, Mhairi Black, with 5 other SNP members are taking challenge and trusting that the money will get there.
http://www.redspokes.co.uk/thebigride/charity.php
All the best, Robert. Good job you’ve got two kidneys. Britain doesn’t have a kidney bank, although it does have a Liverpool.
Now is the time for childish oafish name Calling Redup oh well I am cut to the quick let me dial 999 or is that 101 or what other number for the ambulance my heart is broken and I am about to self harm!
It is long passed the “Jewish” being an invective, or an insult, Jews in this country are given a more preferential treatment than the bloody natives. This fact is based on the statistics released by none other than the community trust or some other one of the plethora of the Jewish only organizations.
Fact that Muslims have taken up the mantel of or is that sent in to the bottom of the pile to be shat on by all of the good and great for the sake of keeping the paroles in check, by blaming the whipping boy. Hence Muslims are subject to be discriminated against, are subject to racial profiling, constant attacks.
In fact Jews are now white and part of the establishment, just read the cock and bull yarns getting plastered in this blog and elsewhere, from God save the queen to opening bottles of wine to celebrate yet another royal birth, to the utter support of blanket surveillance of the population to carpet bombing the Muslim lands that is further reinforced with asking for “bitterness” to be reported to the authority! We now are all goo Germans of the 1930s we are encouraged to shop our neighbor for being bitter! By the assigned ziokeyboard brigades peppering the cyberspace.
Somehow you then come here and start harping on about”Jewish Banking Conspiracy” with the addition of the usual “capitalism” a label devoid of any meaning and in fact a red herring to cover up the biggest fraud perpetrated upon the humanity; scarcity of money (made out of the thin air but still scarce) versus the value of human beings!
Rothschild is all powerful because of ?
Very strong physical stature akin to Erik the Blood Axe?
Sharp Intellect akin to Heisenberg?
Cuz of the ponsi scheme that has been legally supported promoted, and sustained as the only way for trading goods and services; banksters and their fraudulent system, at the cost to every human being on this planet.
Now if that makes me Red, yellow, Green, Iridescent purple quite frankly I could not give a flying fuck!
Robert mate I wish you a safe journey at this juncture of your life, and wish you a very speedy recovery, take care and keep up your spirits. Good luck and god speed mate.
Beautifully timed trident leaks.
Too late for the general election, but a few weeks before Gideon announces further funding for the “desparately needed” trident replacement programme.