What comes out to me from the “Black Spider letter” correspondence of Prince Charles published today is how utterly obsequious Tony Blair and New Labour ministers were to him. No sign whatsoever of radicalism from the former “People’s Party” as they fell over to ingratiate themselves with the heir to the throne. I rather enjoyed Charles quite sharp tone to Blair.
I am fundamentally opposed to the existence of the monarchy. It will hopefully be replaced by a better system, but no human system is perfect. Given that we have a monarchy at present, you will perhaps be surprised to learn that I do not see anything wrong in Charles’ letters, which put forward views which are much what we would have expected him to hold. Of course there is interaction between the monarchy and government, and of course we should get rid of this hereditary element. But Charles’ lobbying is hugely less damaging and pernicious than the corporate lobbying I witnessed throughout my Whitehall career. At least Charles is not lobbying them for corporate advantage and giving large political donations at the same time.
While in my view he did nothing wrong in writing the letters, he and government are both very wrong in arguing they should be private. It is when it is secret that such attempts to wield influence between two branches of government – and monarchy is a branch of government – can be most simply perverted to ill ends. That such publication will not occur again because government has legislated to keep it secret, is an example of the privileged arrogance that prevents this from being a genuine democracy.
Altogether not that big a story and it gives Rusbridger and the Guardian the chance to pose as radical. I find the fact that what is published is so anodyne and unobjectionable rather suspicious – what has not been published? Rusbridger is of course the editor who complied enthusiastically with a GCHQ instruction to smash the Snowden hard drives. The existence of other copies does not justify this any more than it justifies book-burning.
By coincidence, a very worthwhile article by Michael Gillard that had been excised from the net has recently been republished, setting out how Rusbridger in 2002 conspired with Andy Hayman of the Met to bury an investigation into police corruption, including the burglary of the Stephen Lawrence inquiry. By a further coincidence I was having a pint with Laurie Flynn in Sandy Bell’s four days ago.
Hayman went on to be the promoter of the stream of lies about the murder of Jean Charles De Menezes and the publicist of numerous fake terrorist plots, before having to resign in a scandal involving nubile police officers at public expense in tropical islands.
Rusbridger and his extraordinary wig go on and on as a pretend opposition outlet, their reputation much dented by recent hysterical unionist output which exceeds the Daily Express. But Rusbridger’s continued usefulness to the establishment is not in doubt. The pose of publishing the most harmless of Prince Charles’ letters does little to help a threadbare disguise.
The new government of the “democratic” Jewish state:
Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs
“We won’t divide Jerusalem, we won’t make concessions, we won’t withdraw from land.”
Naftali Bennett, Minister of Education, Minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs
“There is not going to be a Palestinian state within the tiny land of Israel.”
Moshe Ya’alon, Minister of Defense
“The Palestinian threat harbours cancer-like attributes.”
Yuval Steinitz, Minister of National Infrastructure, Energy and Water
“We will not agree to the division of Jerusalem and giving up the Jordan Valley.”
Ayelet Shaked, Minister of Justice
“When your husband the pilot, when he’s up in the air, do you hope he’ll be pounding the Arabs hard with bombs?” *Laughter* “Yes.”
Silvan Shalom, Minister of Interior
“We are all against a Palestinian state, there is no question about it.”
Moshe Kahlon, Minister of Finance
“We should annex all the territories that same day.” (When asked what he thinks Israel should do if the Palestinians unilaterally declare independence).
Uri Ariel, Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development
“I think that in five years there will be 550,000 or 600,000 Jews in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank], rather than 400,000 [now].”
Ze’ev Elkin, Minister of Immigration and Absorption, Strategic Affairs
“There is no place for a Palestinian state, not in temporary borders and not in any other configuration.”
Ophir Akunis, Minister without Portfolio
“I resolutely oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state in the place where our nation was born.”
Danny Danon, Minister of Science, Technology and Space
“We will strengthen the settlements in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank].”
Yisrael Katz, Minister of Transportation and Road Safety, Minister of Intelligence
“I am opposed to a Palestinian state. It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land.”
Gila Gamliet, Minister for Gender Equality, Minorities and Young People
“I disagree with the word ‘occupation.’…The Gaza Strip can annex itself to Egypt, some of the Palestinians can annex themselves to Jordan. They have many countries.”
Benny Begin, Minister without Portfolio
“If the two-state solution is the only solution, then there is no solution.”
Haim Katz, Minister of Welfare and Social Services
“The conclusion is clear – not to establish a Palestinian state, for this will become a terror state on the outskirts of Tel Aviv.”
Yariv Levin, Minister of Tourism, Minister of Internal Security
“A clear Israeli law will…show our insistence that we are a Jewish state.”
Miri Regev, Minister of Culture and Sport, Minister of Intelligence
“The Land of Israel belongs to the Jewish People, and not only to the Jews who live in that land.”
Eli Ben-Dahan, Deputy Defense Minister
“[Palestinians] are beasts, they are not human.”
Doug Scrogie.
If you persist with this opprobrium of Habbs beloved Israel,the poor soul will end up crying in his Wissotzky tea.
Not doubt several of his malaprop prone cronies will, verbally chide you,a sure sign you’ve hit a nerve.
“Not (SIC )doubt several of his malaprop prone cronies will, verbally chide you,a sure sign you’ve hit a nerve.”
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1/. There are many reasons why one poster should feel it necessary to chide another one. For example, one might wish to highlight malicious nonsense.
2/. As for “verbally” chiding, how else would you suggest someone should chide someone else on an internet blog?
Conclusion : engage brain before mouth.
These entries on the IMEMC home page illustrate the daily atrocities and injustices inflicted on the Palestinians.
Settlers Secretly Establishing New Outpost On Church Compound
May 22, 2015 – 16:07
Fanatic Israeli settlers have taken control of 40 dunams (10 acres) belonging to a Christian church, between the Gush Etzion settlement bloc and the al-‘Arroub refugee camp, north of the southern West Bank city of Hebron. The settlers have started establishing a new outpost on the confiscated land referred to as Bet Bracha.
World Bank Warns of Total Collapse of Economy in Gaza
May 22, 2015 – 13:43
The World Bank will be presenting a report to the bi-annual Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC) meeting on May 27, 2015 in Brussels that highlights the Gaza Strip’s economic status under Israel’s blockade.
Soldiers Kidnap A Palestinian Near Jenin, Invade Communities In Hebron
May 22, 2015 – 13:11
Israeli soldiers kidnapped, Friday, a young man trying to cross a military roadblock, north of the northern West Bank city of Jenin, and invaded various Palestinian communities Jenin and Hebron.
Israeli Navy Attacks Fishing Boats In Gaza Waters
May 22, 2015 – 12:33
Israeli navy ships attacked, on Friday morning, several Palestinian fishing boats in the Sudaniyya area, northwest of Gaza City, causing significant property damage.
Israeli Firebombs Burn Crops In Northern Gaza
May 22, 2015 – 02:38
Israeli soldiers fired, on Thursday evening, a number of firebombs into Palestinian farmlands, planted with wheat, east of Jabalia, in the northern part of the Gaza Strip.
90 More West Bank Settlement Units Approved
May 21, 2015 – 22:36
The Israeli occupation municipality in Jerusalem, Wednesday, approved the construction of 90 settlement units in Har Homa settlement, in Jerusalem. Full Story
The Wounded Child – Image Wadi Hilweh Information Center, SILWANIC
Palestinian Boy Critically Injured by Rubber-coated Bullet
May 21, 2015 – 22:22
A Palestinian child was critically injured after Israeli forces shot him with a rubber-coated steel bullet near the Shu’fat refugee camp on Thursday, witnesses said.
PCHR Report on Israeli Human Rights Violations in the oPt (14 – 20 May 2015)
May 21, 2015 – 20:03
Israeli forces have continued with systematic attacks against Palestinian civilians and their property in the occupied Palestinian territories (oPt) for the reporting period of 14 – 20 May 2015.
Detainee Adnan Is Only Consuming Water And Salt
May 21, 2015 – 13:24
Hunger-striking detainee Khader Adnan, who started his strike nearly three weeks ago, is currently only consuming salt and water, rejecting medical checkups and any sort of supplements.
http://www.imemc.org/index.php
The complete scum who crashed the world economy will be brought to account, as will their minions.
Habba & Co, get the toilet paper ready.
Keep on Villager with your unpleasant ad hominems and slurs (water off a duck’s back btw) but in doing so you just confirm what a nasty piece of work you are.
Did you undergo special training to become a troll?
More trouble looming on European borders courtesy of the CIA;
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/05/21/the-next-ukraine/
Villager must have been taking lessons from Nick Robinson’s copybook. See the attempt (also failed!) at putting Medialens down. The editors are better men than him by miles.
Mount Nick Robinson erupts
https://twitter.com/bbcnickrobinson/status/601829724650897408
Just checking out a part of Doug Scorgie’s post, as there are no links. If you search for the whole of no.5, it comes up on Haaretz, which is only available to subscribers. If anyone is and can post an extract, that would be helpful. In the meantime, this extract would appear to be kosher. This is what is being used to justify a vicious, terrible thing:
“…the morality of war knows that it is not possible to refrain from hurting enemy civilians. It does not condemn the British air force, which bombed and totally destroyed the German city of Dresden, or the US planes that destroyed the cities of Poland and wrecked half of Budapest, places whose wretched residents had never done a thing to America, but which had to be destroyed in order to win the war against evil. The morals of war do not require that Russia be brought to trial, though it bombs and destroys towns and neighborhoods in Chechnya. It does not denounce the UN Peacekeeping Forces for killing hundreds of civilians in Angola, nor the NATO forces who bombed Milosevic’s Belgrade, a city with a million civilians, elderly, babies, women, and children. The morals of war accept as correct in principle, not only politically, what America has done in Afghanistan, including the massive bombing of populated places, including the creation of a refugee stream of hundreds of thousands of people who escaped the horrors of war, for thousands of whom there is no home to return to.”
Those, please disprove this, seem to be the words of Israel’s new justice minister.
http://bennorton.com/netanyahu-appointed-ayelet-shaked-who-called-for-genocide-of-palestinians-as-justice-minister/
‘So it’s okay to leak info to unionist newspapers on the grounds of what he “thought he heard.”’
I take it from your response you are against whistle blowers.
The memo was genuine, not false as you said.
The full version of the Medialens/Nick Robinson exchange.
https://twitter.com/medialens
Oh Mary,not you as well,I’m not quite sure how much more Habb and his enmity filled votaries,can take.
No doubt they’ll be crying out for your pre-moderation.
And the burning of your bonfire of vanities.
“I wondered whether you could briefly summarise your notion of a ‘Rothschild central bank’.”
Certainly. Any of the banks of the eight families of the Federal Reserve Cartel all of which have Rothschild interests be it on the board or through inter-marriage. Brief enough?
@Mary “The plight of the Palestinians is what concerns me.”
To cause Israeli policy in the occupied territories to change it may be necessary to change U.S. public opinion and hence influence the U.S. government. Jimmy Carter helped to do this with his book “Palestine: peace not apartheid”. Here’s part of an interview about it on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGW4tCPP5Q0
One of things I learnt from a doc about Martin Luther King was that Kennedy had said to him, in private, that King needed to be seen to put pressure on him, so that he would have a reason/excuse for doing the right thing.
This is only one of the reasons why you shouldn’t mess with politics: it’s always about people who are calculating the odds and who, even if successful, end up unhappily.
Great Site here;
http://visualizingpalestine.org/#visuals
This one sums it all up;
http://visualizingpalestine.org/visuals/shrinking-palestine
Right now more important than asking my views on Rothschild Central Banks it would be interesting to know the “dissenters” views on their understanding, collectively or individually, of a ‘free market economy’. I ask in the light of Macky’s comment here.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/05/born-kneeling/comment-page-6/#comment-527513
For a second I was thinking that I had read about Israel’s new deputy foreign minister before, but then again, same difference;
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html
Right, sorry,
“These are not her original words, and there is a subtle difference between copying and pasting another person’s words and saying them yourself, but Shaked’s post was clearly an endorsement of what Elitzur wrote. In her status, Shaked prefaced the lengthy quote writing “This is an article by the late Uri Elitzur, which was written 12 years ago, but remained unpublished. It is as relevant today as it was at the time.”
@John, your redpill site had this;
http://redpilltimes.com/leaked-memo-shows-soros-ngos-payed-macedonian-students-1500-to-come-up-with-regime-change-ideas/
And I quite like this;
http://redpilltimes.com/greek-defense-minister-panos-kammenos-holds-strong-under-immense-us-pressure-to-turn-against-russia/
If anyone from Medialens is reading this, perhaps they would like to pass this on to Stevo (who posted about his appalling treatment at the hands of our safety net):
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1432298707.html
There was a thing called the Claimants Union. It is springing up again in Birmingham, Nottingham, Cardiff and other places. Norwich, here:
http://www.norwichclaimants.org/
Labour peer Lord Janner was re-appointed to a parliamentary committee last JUNE – despite being ‘too ill’ with dementia to be interviewed by police over child sex claims:
Who were the whips responsible for this? Makes me think of House of Cards.
“Did you undergo special training to become a troll?”
Mary, truthfully, pointing out what an empty suit you are, so to speak, comes as effortless to me, as being a bitch does to you.
Oh yeah, escalate those personal insults. It’s like Eastenders!
(in slo motion)
Macky at 10.58 pm. The George Soros bribe story was one of the reasons I asked the establishment supporters what they understood be a free market economy.
Returning to a previous debate, does anyone here think that they should obey orders? And, if not, which orders have they subliminally repressed?
Money and politics can never be kept apart. The Front Nationalhas had to borrow from the Russians http://www.euractiv.com/sections/europes-east/national-fronts-russian-loans-cause-uproar-european-parliament-310599
Do You Know Why My Girlfriend Told Me..She Was a Tortured Soul The Moment She Met Her..With My Wife…and It Wasn’t Because We Didn’t Get Married..It Was something Much Deeper Than That…
It Was About The Bombing of Yugoslavia Where Her Parents Came From..Much Deeper Even Than That..She is So Beautiful..It Was During The War..That We Did(NATO)..and The Kosovo Liberation Army Came In – All “Muslim” Psychos Employed By The USA/CIA/Israel…
I Know What They Did..They Captured The Most Beautiful Teenagers in The World..who weren’t even in the Warzone…
They Captured My Girlfriend’s Cousins Live…
And They Killed Them FRESH..and Removed Their Vital Organs…For an Exceedingly Large Amount Of Money..and Quickly Exported Them To Old Cnts Like Me..who were Dying and Just Wanted a New Liver or Kidney…
Do You Realise Why I Seriously Do Not Like You NEOCONS
I am Standing Here With My Serbian Girlfriend..and I am Saying NO.
Tony