What comes out to me from the “Black Spider letter” correspondence of Prince Charles published today is how utterly obsequious Tony Blair and New Labour ministers were to him. No sign whatsoever of radicalism from the former “People’s Party” as they fell over to ingratiate themselves with the heir to the throne. I rather enjoyed Charles quite sharp tone to Blair.
I am fundamentally opposed to the existence of the monarchy. It will hopefully be replaced by a better system, but no human system is perfect. Given that we have a monarchy at present, you will perhaps be surprised to learn that I do not see anything wrong in Charles’ letters, which put forward views which are much what we would have expected him to hold. Of course there is interaction between the monarchy and government, and of course we should get rid of this hereditary element. But Charles’ lobbying is hugely less damaging and pernicious than the corporate lobbying I witnessed throughout my Whitehall career. At least Charles is not lobbying them for corporate advantage and giving large political donations at the same time.
While in my view he did nothing wrong in writing the letters, he and government are both very wrong in arguing they should be private. It is when it is secret that such attempts to wield influence between two branches of government – and monarchy is a branch of government – can be most simply perverted to ill ends. That such publication will not occur again because government has legislated to keep it secret, is an example of the privileged arrogance that prevents this from being a genuine democracy.
Altogether not that big a story and it gives Rusbridger and the Guardian the chance to pose as radical. I find the fact that what is published is so anodyne and unobjectionable rather suspicious – what has not been published? Rusbridger is of course the editor who complied enthusiastically with a GCHQ instruction to smash the Snowden hard drives. The existence of other copies does not justify this any more than it justifies book-burning.
By coincidence, a very worthwhile article by Michael Gillard that had been excised from the net has recently been republished, setting out how Rusbridger in 2002 conspired with Andy Hayman of the Met to bury an investigation into police corruption, including the burglary of the Stephen Lawrence inquiry. By a further coincidence I was having a pint with Laurie Flynn in Sandy Bell’s four days ago.
Hayman went on to be the promoter of the stream of lies about the murder of Jean Charles De Menezes and the publicist of numerous fake terrorist plots, before having to resign in a scandal involving nubile police officers at public expense in tropical islands.
Rusbridger and his extraordinary wig go on and on as a pretend opposition outlet, their reputation much dented by recent hysterical unionist output which exceeds the Daily Express. But Rusbridger’s continued usefulness to the establishment is not in doubt. The pose of publishing the most harmless of Prince Charles’ letters does little to help a threadbare disguise.
Truman didn’t think Mossadeq’s nationalization of the oil was so outrageous. He received him in the White House in friendly fashion in late 1951 and rejected all the British urging to join in toppling Mossadeq’s government. All that changed when Eisenhower (and the Dulles brothers) came to power in Washington.
The Dulles brothers were partners in the Wall Street law firm of Sullivan & Cromwell, which represented some businesses that had an interest in toppling Mossadeq. And, while the brothers probably actually believed there was a real chance of Communists coming to power and used that argument to persuade Eisenhower to go along, I doubt if the British government believed that. They just recognized that that was the argument they would have to use to get the U.S. to go along with the plan.
Goss
Actually according to a site I just found called Zioncrimefactory, Hitler booted out the Rothschild central banking cartel.
Which means he’s one of yours.
@Anon1 “it appears we now have open support for Kim’s North Korea..” Eh? What lunatic supports North Korea, even here?
@anon1 – there is only one devil thats causing all the hell, its name starts with a b. You might even be related to it if your ancestors too came from near the Khazar (Caspian) Sea
Lysias you are a good student of history. If you can find a book by colonel fletcher prouty “secret team” you will notice that Dulles Bros were in fact gofers and their function was to compel the president into taking a course that had already been decided by the the secret team aka the “interests” you mentioned.
Make sure you find the undoctered version of the book!
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Hi Brian Fujisan be good, be healthy mate.
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Abe if you are pointing to Syria, they are not dissidents, as they were not dissidents in Libya, as they were not dissidents in Egypt II, and as they were not dissidents in Ukraine Maidan!
These are contrived Otpor operations helped by the ex Blackwater chief Erik Prince (Syria) who has been injecting mercenaries into Syria as he did with Libya.
Stop being so blind because of tribal imperatives, you are a decent human being so don’t succumb to the dark forces, pushing you.
RoS’ post of 10:51pm reads like it could have been lifted from any number of conspiracy-orientated sites which offer in almost word for word likeness the very simplistic explanations for the circumstances leading to the Iranian coup you see in the comments of any blog when the word ‘Iran’ is mentioned. I advise you to read a book on the subject, RoS, even if it is one that comes to favourable conclusions for you, because you seem to have a very basic understanding of events, probably based entirely on information gleaned from a website like rense or whatreallyhappened that you have bookmarked and at the ready for just such an occasion as this. And it shows.
“@Anon1 “it appears we now have open support for Kim’s North Korea..” Eh? What lunatic supports North Korea, even here?”
Step forward Kim John Gross…
‘Or perhaps he just isn’t up to the job. He’s clearly way out of his depth, even when the BBC are giving him an easy ride.’
Anon 1- Or perhaps Chuka knew he wouldn’t get 34 Labour MPs (the minimum required) to sign up in support of his leadership bid. He may have believed the media hype about himself, but most of his colleagues probably thought he was far too full of himself.
You could be right, OldMark.
But Suhayl might have a point about that dirty linen.
https://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/chuka.png?w=900
“Step forward Kim John Gross…”
If that is meant to be me I have already given you a link to watch within your attention span. It does not support Kim Yong Un. But I guess you did not watch it.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/05/born-kneeling/#comment-526532
Unlike you it takes more than five minutes for me to reach a conclusion. I have never been to North (or even South Korea). Neither really appeal but I do know what happened historically on Jeju Island (and what is happening today). The Yanks should be totally ashamed. But they don’t know the meaning of shame.
Its incredible we have this sayanim cacophony here when the truth is plain for all to see, who the devils really are?! Its gotta be satanic this level of shamelessness and deceit, its almost lithuanian in its falsehood – this deceit of anon/abe/habba types !
Not that comment, John, but the previous one, in which you described North Korea as the victim of Western lies – that it is actually at the forefront of innovation and self-sufficiency.
Before adding this little John Goss special gem:
“When justice eventually prevails Gaddafi, Saddam and Ceausescu will not go down in the history books as tyrants, but as those who opposed the tyrants.”
You never fail to deliver, John.
@BrianFujisan
15 May, 2015 – 11:26 pm
Thank you, Brian, although I should add that I don’t necessarily agree with everything expressed in the links I give. I just feel that it’s good for democracy to hear an alternative point of view, other than that we get from the usual suspects.
On 6th of May, the day before the general election, Chunky Mark also did an interesting interview with Amelia Womack, deputy leader of the Green Party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCmkcPsDa7U
By the way, support for North Korea is blog gold as far as I am concerned. Not quite as good as holocaust denial but better than 9/11 controlled demolition. One day I hope to extract all three in a single comment. That’s the jackpot. 🙂
Whilst janners orphanage buggery may be defended with Talmudic rulings, even the late rabid rabbi ovadia was hard pressed to come up with a Talmudic ruling that would explain why every steel column along the entire WTC7 100 yard length snapped simultaneously.
@Anon1
16 May, 2015 – 12:15 am
I traveled throughout Romania in the spring of 1989, including Timișoara, where the revolution started. As a veteran of places like East Germany, the USSR and communist China I can tell you that there was nowhere quite like Romania back then.
The 9pm curfew was fun, as were the other laws to make the populace propagate, and the fact that if you were found in possession of a typewriter you could be sentenced to death (I’m not kidding).
I have a feeling that Cameron & Co will have their Ceaușescu moment; you know, on the balcony spouting BS, and the party faithful start to boo.
Rob G.
Ge period was patchy for Me…Illness took away Action, and some interest.. was determined to see the war crimils lose their seats LIVE… A mission…Seen Chunky live at seize the day rally…couple o weeks ago… Seen Craig Murray speak there too…After the Refferendum,
i meant to say it was video 1 i liked best, Still thanks again
Sometimes you are put to the test and you don’t know what to do. Sometimes you just find yourself there ..and you know exactly what to do.
And you do it – and you can hardly believe it.
But there it is…
Didn’t you see it?
Maybe you were not there…you were somewhere else maybe in a state of denial..with your head in the sand not expressing your own beauty and love and truth within your soul…well that is down to you. I can’t teach that to you.
You have to find it within yourself and then the real beauty of this life transcends you.
What a Brilliant Night.
Tony
Two observations on last night’s proceedings here –
Are there two Abe Renes? Two different avatars in the space of 25 minutes.
Does Anon1 realize that his comments are devoid of substance, repetitive and pointless?
The Times {paywall} have a piece about this individual, a member of THE establishment, who was let off. Unlike Janner he admitted his crime.
Note the reference in the Wikipedia entry that he raped his own son.
‘MP who abused boy in 1970s let off with caution
A former MP was not brought to trial despite admitting he had abused a boy over two years
Fiona Hamilton Crime Correspondent
May 16 2015
A Conservative MP escaped prosecution for child abuse in the 1970s even though he admitted indecent assault, it emerged last night.
Victor Montagu was cautioned by police after he assured them that he would avoid contact with the victim. The disclosure will lend weight to allegations of an establishment cover-up of historical child sex abuse.
The Guardian reported that Montagu, an MP for South Dorset who died in 1995, was not brought to trial despite indecently assaulting a boy for two years. According to the newspaper the decision was made by the Dorset and Bournemouth police force and Sir Norman…..’
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article4442180.ece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Montagu
Wait for it.
George Osborne plans new Budget on 8 July
Chancellor George Osborne has said that he will deliver a new Budget on 8 July.
Writing in the Sun Mr Osborne said it would be aimed at “working people” and “entrench stability and security”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761566
The dozy and gullible electorate failed to heed the warnings,
@Mary “Are there two Abe Renes?” Not that I know, at least yesterday. I do use different computers, but there will usually be hours, not minutes between such entries. I don’t follow the blog all the time. But it may be that the pictures beside the names change now and then.
PS. Mary, which two entries did you feel came from two different people with this same name? Could be that someone slipped something in that I didn’t read. I am the same person who would be opposed to Communism, but nevertheless conceded that Mossadegh might have been a better ruler than the ayatollahs (assuming he didn’t turn Iran into a place like Rumania).
There’s a video on this link of Her Maj in headscarf meeting the King of Bahrain at the Windsor Horse Show and being taken into a marquee by him. Creepy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3083076/The-Queen-smiles-floral-headscarf-enjoys-day-Royal-Windsor-Horse-Show.html
He should have been in the US but opted out.
‘Having been ‘snubbed’ by the new Saudi King Salman, it appears the uneasy relationship with our ‘allies’ in The Gulf is ebbing. In what the State Department will, we are sure, just brush off, Politico reports that the king of Bahrain has apparently also snubbed President Barack Obama, preferring instead to attend a horse show with Queen Elizabeth.
Obama had invited the leaders of the six Gulf Cooperation Council nations – Bahrain, Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia – to discuss regional security and other issues at a Camp David summit this week; but with Bahrain and Saudi Arabia missing, it appears the discussion will be short.’
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-14/obama-becoming-global-joke-king-bahrain-snubs-us-president-meets-horse-instead
Abe Rene Avatars 10.18pm and 10.42pm ??
I use a laptop and a tablet but my avatar is the same here, both using the same e-mail and IP addresses.
BrianFujisan
15/05/2015 6:05pm – Dead Can Dance “De Profundis”
I’m charmed by this. Thank you. Heard of Dead Can Dance but never heard anything by them before.
Kind regards,
John
Mary
16/05/2015 8:56am
Bloody hell. I’d rather go line dancing with Dubya than attend a horse show with the Queen.
Kind regards,
John
“as they did with Gaddafi (the extrajudicial execution of whom seems to be supported by RD)”
Another day another lie from Mr Goss
@Mary “Abe Rene Avatars 10.18pm and 10.42pm ??”
Both by myself, and from the same computer. But I just tried an experiment: I added one character to the email address I typed in, so if that leads to a different picture that will be a possible explanation (but the IP address shouldn’t be different).
PS. Aha! Different pic. Now I’ll try the address without the extra character..