Tories Back Jim Murphy 133

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During the course of this campaign, a quarter of Tories in East Renfrewshire have switched to voting Labour to back Jim Murphy against the SNP.

Polls by Ashcroft of the constituency at the beginning and end of April shows the Tory vote dropping by 25 to 20%, and the Murphy vote increasing from 31 to 36% – a direct transfer of Tory tactical votes to Labour.

The Tories willingness to back the leader of the Scottish Labour accounting unit is the starkest possible illustration of the collusion of Red Tories and Blue Tories. It comes on top of Miliband’s preference for a Tory government rather than a deal with the SNP. As I have been saying for almost a year, I view a Tory-Labour “grand coalition” as perfectly possible.

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  • glenn

    Areas of conflict for a Tory/Labour government:

    Lots of cuts Vs Not quite so many cuts
    Referendum on Europe (although the hope is to stay in) Vs Stay in
    Don’t tax non-doms at all Vs Tax them a bit
    Look after the banksters Vs Look after the banksters
    Privatise the NHS quickly Vs Privitise the NHS not so quickly
    Environment policy : Business as usual Vs Say yes to environmentalists, and yes to extraction industries
    Lower tax rate at the top Vs Marginally higher tax rates at the top
    Yes to Trident renewal Vs Yes to Trident renewal

    It appears that there is plenty of ground for compromise, for any UK/Tory permanent government that might form. Keep the crazies out. All those nut-jobs and agitators who actually think the economy should serve the people in the country, rather than the investor class.

    You can write the arguments yourself, about how they both have always wanted “What’s best for Britain”, always have, and they can agree about working for “Hard working families”, fighting against extremism and those pesky terrorists, both capable of making “Hard choices” where necessary. After all, between them, they represent 80%+ of the voting public. And they are each forming an alliance with the next biggest party.

    All utter BS, of course. But any excuse will do these days, after all.

    Has such an agreement already been formed? Has Miliband agreed to effectively throw it, ditching in advance the pretty sure opportunity he had to be PM in a coalition with the SNP, for some already made deal with the Tories? It’s hard to believe the party line is so solidly against an SNP pact, particularly when most SNP policies (and voters, clearly) are cut from much the same cloth.

    This election might be a test to see how well a grand, consolidated Establishment government might be put in place. No major upheavals indefinitely – the market likes that.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Craig

    Isn’t that a fifth rather than a quarter?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    G H Graham

    “With the SNP surge showing no signs of a pause, anything is now possible in Westminster, just so long as the democratic will of the Scots is stifled.”

    ________________________

    Do you have anything to say about the democratic will of the people of the entire United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

    Fool!

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “I thought people were not allowed to comment using Anon as a pseudonym!”

    ______________________

    Playing the NKVD nark again, Mr Goss? Spot of denunciation?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    ““Ugly scenes outside Ed Miliband speech in Glasgow as pro-independence crowd shout ‘traitors’ and brandish banners declaring ‘Red Tory scum’””
    ____________________

    Yes, I’ve just seen that on BBC television. The demonstrators looked ugly and vicious. Are these the tactics the SNP has to resort to?

    By the way, I also saw La Sturgeon again doing her hypocritical little spiel about not being able to believe that Labour would not do a deal with the SNP, thereby letting David Cameron in again. She’s a complete fake.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

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    Mr Goss

    “But it still remains that Sheikdoms are predominantly found in the the Arabian Peninsula. So Big School next year, eh?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula”

    _______________________

    Actually, I’ve come across the use of the word “Sheik” in the UK, FRance and Belgium to describe minor Muslim clerics and other leaders.

    So don’t make a fool of yourself in your eagerness to make fun of Villager.

    If you persist, I shall again have to remind you of your reference to the indigenous inhabitants of the Falkland Islands….

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    I can see little wrong with a Grand Coalition in these testing times, made even more testing by the probable emergence of a political party representing only one small region of the UK, dedicated to the breakup of the Union and willing to use blackmail to extort maximum advantage for that small region by virtue of holding the balance of power.

    Moreover, a Grand Coalition would be representative of well over 60% of those bothering to vote – that’s real democracy!

    And last but not least, there have been similar Grand Coalitions in Germany and the country seemed to do rather well under them (Neues Deutschland reader “Lysias” to confirm, please)

  • glenn

    Habbakuk: But what testing times are these, other than items such as:

    – Instability largely caused by military adventurism (by the US/UK)
    – Environmental instability (which the Lib/Lab/Con will do nothing to address)
    – Economics geared to the investor/monied classes
    – Civic unrest due to economic injustice

    I probably left a few off, but what problems actually beset the country, other than those of our own making, and those a Lib/Lab/Con government will do absolutely nothing but make worse?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Mainly ENGLISH…

    I am going to write this once..and I ain’t going to write it again…My wife said She is Your Friend on Facebook..and This is Her Mate…

    and I am looking at Two Of The Most Beautiful Girls in The World..

    My wife tried to keep it a secret from me

    But we just Cried Together

    No Way

    One Breast Cancer..The Other Girl Totally Out Of The Blue..no warning whatsoever

    I Knew Them Both as Did Everyone

    DEAD Barely 50 years old..looking 25…

    So do not Try and Tell Me about Life and Death…

    You see it is easy for me..sure I have lost…

    But I am not a 15 year old kid..who has just lost his Beautiful Mum…and I just look at the photographs and I Cry..what can I say?

    Tony

  • BrianFujisan

    For Fedup

    Thanks.. i Know it’s a few Threads back… I was mega ill But Wabi- sabi still Big Time… And Costing me a fortune Lol… Stay Free

  • Tony_0pmoc

    My wife and I are Perfectly Fit and Healthy so far as we both know..and we somewhat older than that…

    You can meet My Wife Tomorrow Morning If You Like…and Take Photographs Of Her With Her Mate..who is about 70 years or so..and very intense…

    These Girls From Lancashire And Yorkshire are Digging and Planting – Growing Food Together…

    and if you think i can do better than my rock chick..then lets see yours..

    The Girls are working For Free..it’s her mate’s private allotments..but my wife also works on the Community Allotments…and People Keep Taking Her Photograph and Publishing it Online and in The Local Newspapers

    Now You Understand?? at least a bit???

    Tony

  • BrianFujisan

    Tony…. Good Stuff

    My Clan Are Naturists … My Bairns all Raised on an island…..Running Free….

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I am not going To Deny The Obvious That Us Anglo-Americans Still Run The Show..with The Jews in Israel and The Russians in Russia and The Chinese in China and The Brazilians in Brazil and etc…

    But Really It Is Us English in England

    Sure me Might Be Very Nice..and we quite like The Germans…

    But We in ENGLAND are Going To Take These American Cunts Down in Washington.

    they won’t even know

    they won’t notice..We just ignore them and do not do what these psychos tell us to do…yeh agree..but just carry on as normal.

    Its Called Disobedience…

    Or Alternatively Yanks Go And FuCk Yourselves

    We will Not Take Orders From You

    Tony

  • Mary

    Nice of the multiple trolls who have landed as one on this thread to give their views on the setting up of a grand coalition. What would be their role in this newly created fascist state? Or would their work be done and they are pensioned off.

    PS Villager’s invective and vocabulary are SOooo Krishnamurti.

  • Juteman

    Worrying that Tory Jackson Carlaw remarked on Radio Scotland yesterday, that postal votes were showing tactical voting. How would he know?

  • John Goss

    “Worrying that Tory Jackson Carlaw remarked on Radio Scotland yesterday, that postal votes were showing tactical voting. How would he know?”

    He’s probably been marking the Xs on them. 🙂

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    Once again, I appeal to you to refrain from leaping up and posting whichever pissy little thought comes into your head first.

    “Nice of the multiple trolls who have landed as one on this thread to give their views on the setting up of a grand coalition. What would be their role in this newly created fascist state?”

    ____________________________

    So, to give one’s views on something that comes up on a thread means being a troll if those views happen to run counter to yours?

    Isn’t that a rather fascist way of thinking?

    As for “this newly created fascists state”n well, I remember you saying on several occasions that Britain is already a fascist country?

    Moreoever, last time anyine looked, Germany was still a refreshingly non-fascist state despite the Grand Coalitions it has experienced.

    Chumpess!

  • Becky Cohen

    Afraid I’m a bit sceptical that a coalition government would work, Craig. Although since 2008 the economic recession has been very much an emergency, I don’t think a multi-political party government would be as appropriate solution as it was during world war 2. Oddly enough though, there is a lot of similarity between the three main political parties these days. During this election campaign, it feels sometimes that they are all sales reps trying to market exactly the same product but offering those ‘special extra deals’ if you buy me as your prime minister etc.

  • Becky Cohen

    @Mary: “A little too early perhaps for Cameron to derive full Union Jack type benefit from the birth for his partei’s share of the vote?”

    Mary, just a quick point: it’s only called a Union Jack if it’s flying from a ship. The correct name for the British flag is the Union Flag whenever it’s not:)

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