During the course of this campaign, a quarter of Tories in East Renfrewshire have switched to voting Labour to back Jim Murphy against the SNP.
Polls by Ashcroft of the constituency at the beginning and end of April shows the Tory vote dropping by 25 to 20%, and the Murphy vote increasing from 31 to 36% – a direct transfer of Tory tactical votes to Labour.
The Tories willingness to back the leader of the Scottish Labour accounting unit is the starkest possible illustration of the collusion of Red Tories and Blue Tories. It comes on top of Miliband’s preference for a Tory government rather than a deal with the SNP. As I have been saying for almost a year, I view a Tory-Labour “grand coalition” as perfectly possible.
Daniel, please take note ^^
“I think Mr Galt forgets that young voters grow old.”
Older and hopefully wiser.
I find the Daily Mail link in comments above hilarious in the mismatch between the photos and the text about these evil nationalists. I can’t find any coverage on the BBC website – can anyone? I fancy writing about this.
Just been talking with a chap at the shop who has family in Scotland. They are considering leaving, such is the visceral hatred shown by the SNP to all who oppose them that they really can’t stand the place any longer.
Browsing some of the many videos online documenting SNP activism, one can’t help but notice their peculiar infatuation with the word ‘scum’. Often one person shouts “scum” and then others join in to create a chorus of “scum, scum, scum, scum”, which grows louder and faster until it is stopped by a loud whistle or loutish cheer. Then the whole process starts again as someone else shouts “scum”. Can anyone explain this strange phenomenon?
Craig
You can find bbc reference using the google site operator:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:bbc.co.uk+glasgow+miliband+Red+Tory+scum
“You can find bbc reference using the google site operator:”
And read the account of BBC reporter James Cook on his twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook
And hear sound recording here:
https://soundcloud.com/blair-mcdougall-2/abuse-at-labour-event-tonight?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter
“Just been talking with a chap at the shop who has family in Scotland. They are considering leaving, such is the visceral hatred shown by the SNP to all who oppose them that they really can’t stand the place any longer.”
Spot on bumboy. London stitches up the vote and the stitched-up get angry. If London didn’t stitch up all of its neighbours near or far in the world community there would no need for anyone to resort to independence.
” Here are some Funny Facts about Libya under Gaddafi: ”
Something you missed:-
” Note the disclaimer from CNN. “The opinions expressed in this piece are solely those of the iReporter. CNN cannot confirm all of the claims in this iReport and has been unable to reach the original submitter.” ”
In other words it could all be rubbish from an anonymous source. Odd how prior to his death the consensus was that Gaddafi was a deranged tyrant, now post-revolution it’s been necessary for some looney elements to re-invent him as a benevolent demi-god presiding over a workers paradise. Incidents such as this seem to have been quietly forgotten.
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/libya-death-sentences-foreign-medics-condemned
Show trials, torture and filthy, ill equipped hospitals. Oh dear.
Anon1, 10:49 am:
This also contradicts my experience in George Square on the Wednesday before the vote.
On the west side of the square behind he stage area there were a few No campaigners led by a man with a Honda Gold Wing motorcycle, highly decorated with No stickers and Union flags. Many Yes campaigners chatted amicably with this small group, arguing their position and taking photos of the bike.
On the east side, on the far side of the road from the square, was a fair sized group of No campaigners with banners. placards and Union flags. They booed and shouted loudly and rudely. A sparse line of police discouraged them from crossing the road but had insufficient numbers to have stopped them. Facing back across the road were a smaller number of Yes campaigners, the main group of Yes supporters facing the other way and gathering towards the stage to the west. This smaller group of Yes supporters also had flags and placards; they did sing and chant but were quieter and noticeably more civil than the No supporters they were facing.
Many, many times I found myself part of a conversation of mixed Yes and No supporters. Each time, Yes supporters were in the majority. The No supporters were listened to politely and argued against with no animosity.
My word. We are keeping the trolls busy here.
Kempe 11:59
Disclaimers => a standard tactic when inconvenient facts are presented.
Try this for size then …
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2013/01/12/gaddafis-libya-was-africas-most-prosperous-democracy/
Oh and hadn’t the UN prepared a report praising Gaddafi’s human rights achievements just before bombs started being dropped on his viagra-fuelled mercenary rapists etc
Kempe
Excellent reply to that Useful Idiot “Pykrete”, who also didn’t bother to mention Khaddafi’s prisons, torture, executions, supply of matériel including Semtex to IRA terrorists, sending financial assistance, intelliegence officers and torturers to help out his fellow-Muslim Idid Amin Dada……
Is there anyone, no matter how loathsome, whom the West-haters on here would not support?
Kempe
Please describe how the average Libyan has benefited from Western intervention.
Thanks for the laugh Brain I enjoyed the protest clip.
The story of the cranes was a real nice touch although very sad, the symbolism of the torn pages evolving into cranes at the hands of a young child amidst the decaying ruins of a long disappeared “civilisation”.
PS I hope you have fully recovered, and best wishes.
But Habby … the colonel had seen the error of his old ways post 9/11 and pretty much became rehabilitated in the eyes of the west. I mean he joined in the war on terror, GW used to chat with him on the phone, Tone visited, Muammar addressed the EU etc etc. So what do you reckon happened?
Interesting to see that Habbacrumpet is so incredibly dumb as to believe that our much-vaunted “Democracy” can be delineated in any form at all on the basis of one day of voting every five years. Especially now, when there is not a sheet of Izal-thickness between the policies of the mainstreamers. Still-I always spot resident trolls by their complete lack of any intellectual capacity whatsoever.
Habbabkuk, Republican senator Peter King is long time supporter of the IRA. Why hasn’t King been killed? Why wasn’t Boston bombed from the air, all those Irish bars raising money for the IRA, not legitimate targets?
Also the UK intelligence services allowed a couple of Libyan arms shipments to the IRA, the dealer was an ex-SAS man who acted as an informer so deals went through.
I find it extraordinary that western liberals backed the jihadis in Libya. I remember reading the Guardian at the time of the Nato bombing, the numbers o people on the comments backing the AL-Qaeda barbarians – unbelievable. I gave up commenting because of the abuse I received from the pro-jihadi brigade.
In the 2010 election, the Scottish National Party won just 6 of the 59 seats in Scotland, and Labour won 41 seats, which it had held since the 2005 election. In this 2015 election the pollsters are saying that the SNP will take at least 50 seats in Scotland; some polls even suggest that they will win all 59 of them. If the polls prove correct, this will be a seismic shift in British politics.
Firstly, the ‘third party’ will be the largest ever. Secondly a potential SNP walkover north of the border will ensure Scottish independence within a short space of time. Thirdly, under these circumstances a Labour – Conservative coalition becomes a feasable option for the Establishment (and might be a good bet). Without a coalition between the two main parties we will have a re-run of the February 1974 GE, which is the only election in recent history that is remotely comparable to 2015. In 1974 they had to hold another GE seven months later (in which Labour did manage to form a majority government). The same thing will happen now, unless there’s a Lab-Con coalition.
If there is a Lab-Con coalition you can kiss goodbye to ‘democracy’, and Britain will formally become a police state (all the laws are in place for this, and people like me often bang on about them).
“But Habby … the colonel had seen the error of his old ways post 9/11 and pretty much became rehabilitated in the eyes of the west. I mean he joined in the war on terror, GW used to chat with him on the phone, Tone visited, Muammar addressed the EU etc etc. So what do you reckon happened?”
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What happened? Easy. His sins caught up with him, even unto the manner of his death.
What goes round, comes round.
” Secondly a potential SNP walkover north of the border will ensure Scottish independence within a short space of time.”
There are two reasons why that is unlikely. One because nothing has happened to improve the nationalist case since the referendum and much has happened to make it worse, the price of oil more than halved. The other is that it isn’t for the SNP government to decide, it would be a constitutional change, the law would have to be changes at Westminster to allow it and that is unlikely to happen.
Meanwhile the SNP is taking votes under false pretences, stringing the Nationalists along.
@Fred
2 May, 2015 – 6:57 pm
Interesting points, but the simple fact of the matter is that if the SNP do get 50 or more of the 59 Scottish seats next Thursday, they’ve more than won what has become a second referendum for Scottish independence.
They will also have a big say in Westminster, and more MPs than any other third party in history.
Whatever way you want to spin it, these are the facts.
With regard to the neocon media, here’s an example today, from the Guardian…
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/02/nicola-sturgeon-ed-miliband-tactical-error-ruling-out-coalition
There’s not one mention in this Guardian piece that the SNP are set for a landslide and historic victory.
People in the 1984-Land that is now England are not told about what’s really going on, and these people will be casting their votes next Thursday.
And I’ll tell you something, if the SNP had candidates in all the English and Welsh constituencies, the SNP would have a majority government on 8th May.
Doesn’t that tell you something about all the trolls and lowlifes that infest the internet and the press?
“Interesting points, but the simple fact of the matter is that if the SNP do get 50 or more of the 59 Scottish seats next Thursday, they’ve more than won what has become a second referendum for Scottish independence.”
No they haven’t, they can easily get every seat with less than 50% of the vote and well under 50% of the electorate.
The Unionist vote has to be split three ways.
An election is an election, you can’t just declare it to be a referendum because you want it to be.
Anyway, the SNP have declined even full fiscal autonomy because they know that at the moment it would entail huge cutbacks, a shortfall to the tune of billions.
Fred, we will have to see how it turns out, but if the SNP do get 50 plus seats I’m not sure how anyone can argue that it won’t mean an independent Scotland sometime in the near future?
And ‘project fear’ applies more to England at the moment than Scotland, to keep the plebs under control.
Whoopee to five more years of neocon hatred and lunacy!
Latest Guardian piece…
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/02/weeks-political-paralysis-vote-uk-general-election
Please note that this piece makes no mention of the SNP whatsoever.
It’s like cloud-cuokoo land.
A bit like my typos, folks! (I’m tired)
The Soaraway and schizoid Sun
Will Tories Make Hay While The Sun Shines?
The stark contrast between The Sun front pages north and south of the border may seem odd, but we’ve actually been here before.
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/4/29/388329/default/v1/stur-wars-copy-1-762×428.jpg
http://news.sky.com/story/1474847/will-tories-make-hay-while-the-sun-shines
It is odd how the SNP are now deemed somehow illegitimate. The enemy within. Craig mooted the idea of a Grand Coalition a while ago, and it is looking more and more possible. The pretext would be some sort of budget and constituional crisis, requiring a steady Government. It wouldn’t, of course, last long, but it doesn’t have to. A year would probably be enough, till someone wants to take a gamble with another election – probably after the removal of one, or both, leaders.
I also simply can’t see any route where the Labour Party can win power without the SNP. And they can’t have an alliance, because they are so – weirdly – anti-independence. Surely it’s up to the Scots? I mean, the Labour Party may not like it, but so it goes. You can still have a Labour Pary in independent Scotland, surely? The political calculations are somewhat mysterious to me, unless of course you take into account the ever-present security services …
Personally, I wouldn’t mind a Grand Coalition. It would prove the even the most naive that the parties are basically bent neocons, not worth voting for.
Liarbour has been the junior coalition partner since the 1922 election.