Glasgow City College student Majid Ali faces torture and death if returned to Pakistan. Majid Ali’s brother and other members of his immediate family have been taken and I am afraid very probably murdered by the Pakistani authorities as part of their relentless persecution of the Baloch people and desire to wipe out Baloch national identity. The UK Home Office intends to deport Majid. The people of Scotland must defend him.
There will be an emergency demonstration at the Scottish office, 1 Melville Crescent, Edinburgh at 13.00 tomorrow. I shall be going along. NUS Scotland are organising a letter-writing campaign to Scottish MPs to get them to put pressure on the Home Office. This is important.
It is appalling that London can seek to rip Majid from a Scottish community which values him, from a nation which respects its immigrant communities and their contribution, as part of Theresa May’s campaign to pander to the corporate media induced racism which regrettably has been introduced into many communities in England. It is a further example of why independence is essential to build a more ethical state.
The persecution of the Baloch has received little attention in the West. Peter Tatchell has done admirable work in trying to raise its profile in the UK, but with little traction. Like so many dreadful abuses, it is a direct result of wrongdoing by the British Empire. Baloch or Beluchistan was formally known as the state of Kelat, which Britain first invaded in 1839, destroying the city of Kelat in 1840 and murdering the ruler Mehrab Khan on the pretext he had given insufficient support to the British invasion of Afghanistan. Britain’s relations with Kelat thereafter were an appalling litany of broken treaties, culminating into the forceful and unwanted incorporation into Pakistan.
A few years ago I met the current Khan of Kelat at his home in exile in Wales and learnt a great deal about the dreadful persecution the Baloch suffer. In the course of my researches into British responsibility for the situation I cam across the crime of the massacre of Kotra. After the killing of Mehrab Khan, fighting continued until a truce was agreed with Mehrab’s 15 year old son Nasir. While the truce was in force, British forces silently surrounded Nasir’s mountain camp at Kotra and attacked before dawn, massacring 500. It is reminiscent of Glencoe, though this was a much larger massacre. In the National Archives of India I trembled as I held the manuscript order for the massacre in my hands.
We should do everything we can to save Majid Ali out of common decency, wherever he is from. But the knowledge of Britain’s historic responsibility for the situation should broaden and deepen our understanding of his plight.
“That wouldn’t be a spoof, would it?
Disclaimer: I am able to state whether the above is sarcasm or not.”
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Habb.
Summon the professional spoof investigator,Dreoilon will easily get to the bottom of this,with such vast experience it should be solved in a jiffy.
“You know who Habbabkuk is and “can out him at will”?”
What a curious thought. You can’t ‘out’ something which is already vividly, conspicuously and unashamedly out. FFS – it’s obvious with a capital M.
Countries are a fiction put together by those who controlled resources in order to retain control.
It never was your country. You wave their flag. Our kids die in their wars. We work for them.
Nationalism is not a vehicle for liberation. It is a road to just another elitist, divisive, murderous state.
No borders!
Vronsky
“it’s obvious with a capital M.”
Mobvious? Good word: the clear rule of the mob. I’m gonna nick that.
Surely, ‘Mbvious’. Still very puzzling.
Seems a good resource for those wanting to know more about Balochistan;
http://www.dw.de/search/english/balochistan/category/9097/
Don’t focus on me just because of some nonsense scribbled by Smear-kin and then Vronsky – focus on the many issues deserving of your intellectual input and power! 🙂
Habbakuk
“Learnt the difference between the State of Israel and the IDF yet?”
What is the difference you allude to?
They are entirely codependent. Neither could exist without the other. So while they are not the same thing they cannot be viewed as separate from each other in any way. I am failing to conjour a phrase where substituting one for the other would be entirely incorrect.
Vronsky means MI5, of course. There are some real paranoiacs on here!
Craig:
“It has though been instructive to see how so many commentators anxious to sound off on all kinds of subjects have not the least common decency to be concerned about what will happen to Majid Ali.”
Baluchistan lies between Shi’a Iran ( backed by USUKIS for its deviancy from Islam ) and Pakistan ( backed by USUKIS for its self-destructive genocide tendencies against all other Muslims not backed by USUKIS ).
Has anybody else noticed that Saudi Arabia is engaged in a power struggle with Shi’a Islam?
So if Majid Ali is a political voice for Shi’a nationalism, he is caught up in a superpower created Divide and Rule power struggle in which the superpowers back both sides, e.g. both Assad and Al Queenida CIAda Al cuntida (israel).
The only people who can save him are the very top diplomats who are playing these disgusting colonial political games if they have any compassion which I am certain they don’t or if like Craig they care about the UK’s reputation for compassion which I very much doubt – otherwise they would have supported Craig in Uzbekistan.
One of the risks of speaking out in an ideological cause such as Majid Ali’s desire to part of Iran’s Shi’a Empire rather than Saudi Arabia’s Sunni Pakistan is that you pick the wrong cause.
That’s why it matters whether you condemn Israel or not. Today Craig backed Israel. he picked the wrong cause.
Ben; I think Clark was being tongue-in-cheek.
You must be stating that tongue-in-cheek !
Catching up with this Thread, several gate-keeping posts stand out a mile, question is which are deliberate, and which are just brain-farts of the clueless.
Vronsky
Are you saying that Habbabkuk is a voice-puppet of Craig Murray? Surely you don’t think our Craig is conducting a bi=polar conversation with himself? I don’t even believe bi-polar exists except as a medical profession put-down for the gift of being broad-minded unlike them.
If you are saying what you appear to be saying, you’re bonkers with a capital M.
Me
“I am failing to conjour a phrase where substituting one for the other would be entirely incorrect.”
A pretty fucking stupid thing to say. Obviously ya cant live in the IDF and so on. Probably more better to say: I am failing to conjour a phrase where substituting “Israel” for “IDF” would be entirely incorrect.
Noncey1
Your bitch Janner might get indicted in Scotland.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/09/lord-janner-scotland-reportedly-investigating-new-child-sex-abuse-claims
Vronsky
Apologies. My brain automatically blanks out MI5. It’s called Freudian Repression. but MI5’s second in command on this blog Nonce1 has saved me from my own stupidity. Big M is MI5. No need indeed in outing them fuckers. Freudian slips happen.
EU referendum bill passed 544 votes to 53.
Anon
“Vronsky means MI5, of course.”
Ah, ok. Are you serious Vronsky? Personally I doubt they would put so much effort into this place. Also Habbakuk just doesn’t feel like a spook. Not that I would know what a spook feels like of course. I only ever once knowingly, and then very briefly, spoke to a secret agent and he was not so secret and MI6.
But I would be interested to hear the case if serious. I tend to think any professional disruptors here are more likely to be from part of the persuasion industry rather than spooks. And I am far from convinced of this.
Fred
Prat. Who gives a flying fuck what MPs think about Europe? It’s all political bollocks like SNP MPs replacing the New Labour MPs at the election and giving a majority to David Cameron.
I’m still waiting for my “f… off and die … retard medal”. When’s it going to come?
Phil
“part of the persuasion industry rather than spooks.”
Foul frog, who are the persuasion industry if not MI5, when they are at home?
lysias
8 Jun, 2015 – 10:44 pm
“The possibility of the security services using sexual depravity (which allegedly goes as far as murder) to blackmail politicians is the most disturbing possibility.”
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The security services have their hands firmly on the tiller of UK power.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to blackmail.
More on our noble Lord Janner, and not exactly startling news:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5578/revealed-how-lord-janner-lobbied-for-israel-as-backbench-mp
And for those who might have missed George Galloway’s interview on LBC this morning (in which the subject of Janner came up):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXaNzmeF6k
No I don’t think MI5 would bother with this place either. Amusingly, some of the regulars really do believe that their comments are of huge import to the security services.
Giyane
“Foul frog, who are the persuasion industry if not MI5, when they are at home?”
Well in this instance an obvious possibility would be LP PR. Hell, I can even see value at this stage of some SNP PR discrediting Craig to smooth the coming rejection.
Node, 1:44 pm; I think there are a lot of people, each having a lot of thoughts and feelings, and yes, most of those thoughts seem justified to the people who have them in one way or another. Of course there’s a range. Some people know for sure that they’re on the make in certain ways, but they probably think they’re saving their victim from even worse exploitation by some competitor. Selective inattention is very useful. The convolutions for avoiding conscience can be almost baroque. Just look at Blair’s expressions; something’s running beyond its capacity in there.
Mary
8 Jun, 2015 – 11:07 pm
Stephen Fry:
‘Israel has every right to resist coming to an accommodation with Palestine while it is led by Hamas.’
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Yes Mary that was also carried in the Daily Telegraph – inviting notable figures to say the unsayable.
The thing I thought about Stephen Fry’s piece was that he wasn’t saying the “unsayable” because what he said is being said by Israel supporters all over the place.
If he wanted to say the “unsayable” he could have said (for example)that Hamas and the Palestinians have a legitimate right to resist Israeli aggression and occupation.
Had he said that he would be demonised in our “free press” as and branded an anti-Semite.
Much as I like Stephen Fry I think he got his jock-strap in a twist on this.
“I’m still waiting for my “f… off and die … retard medal”. When’s it going to come?”
When I say that it is as an insult, I wouldn’t want to actually mock the afflicted.
“When I say that it is as an insult, I wouldn’t want to actually mock the afflicted.”
So funny. It mocks any response. 🙂
Yes you are quite right there Fred. There’s jesting and then there’s actual abuse of the mentally retarded, like Giyane. One must be quite careful to make sure that a real life
retarded person is not incidentally offended by any of the casual jokes on here.
I’ve seen no reference to it on here but I guess everyone is aware that there is a big fire at an oil storage depot near Kiev next to a military amunitions depot and firing range. It will not be long before someone is blaming Putin but I think this picture clearly shows that a BUK missile launcher can be seen hurrying away. Or is it a combined harvester. 🙂
https://twitter.com/SERG_ROTTENBERG/status/608270837968445441
Node
Still laughing at the idea of you playing the neutral observer and coming down in favour of Mr Goss when it comes to what is going on in Ukraine. You remind me of one of those dads at kids football match who professes he is trying to be fair while giving every decision to his precious ones own team – and you have the same level of credibility.
“However I tend to favour the combine-harvester theory on the grounds that if Russia really had moved in such large war equipment, there would be better proof of it by now than a grainy picture.”
Of course I do have to take you up on this whopper – I could of course ask how you think it is possible for the rebels to engage in what amounts to a full scale war only using weapons that they have stolen from the Ukrainians or have been left behind in Ukrainian bases in Eastern Ukraine (some what absent mindlessly given the Putinistas claim that the Ukrainians planned the whole thing in advance) or were carried over by defectors but since you seem to think the only evidence is a single grainy picture perhaps you might wish to consider all of the following while you are in your fair minded considering all the evidence state of mind – on the other hand you might just admit that you are just another victim of that disease of the Eminences – selective blindness.
http://conflictreport.info/2015/01/23/hard-evidence-the-regular-russian-army-invades-ukraine/
http://www.channel4.com/news/ukraine-russia-nato-satellite-image-soldiers-territory
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/06/elena-racheva_n_5774138.html
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/12/13/ukrainian-hackers-leak-russian-interior-ministry-docs-with-evidence-of-russian-invasion/
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/06/03/evidence-the-russian-military-supplied-the-type-of-missile-used-to-shoot-down-mh17/
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ac363240-2d06-11e4-911b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3cb5zWbDd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/russia-official-silence-for-families-troops-killed-in-ukraine
http://www.dw.de/evidence-mounting-of-russian-troops-in-ukraine/a-18294255
PS No answer is required from Mr Goss – we all know what it will be already.