I am worried that the continued delay in the publication of Chilcot’s report is giving rise to expectations that it will be forthright and damning of Blair and his supporters. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even though Blair plunged us into an illegal war with dreadful long-term consequences, the report has always been designed to be a typical Whitehall fudge. Mistakes made – errors of judgement – all in good faith – lessons learned. You don’t have to wait for it, that is it.
The Chilcot team was handpicked by Gordon Brown – himself up to his neck in guilt for the illegal invasion – and three of the five had been aggressive proponents of the war. The remaining two, Chilcot and Baroness Prasad, are “sound” for the Establishment. Let me remind you of my analysis of the committee members in 2009. Sir Lawrence Freedman was an active propagandist for the invasion while Sir Martin Gilbert (died while contributing to the committee) was so enamoured of the invasion he compared Bush and Blair to Roosevelt and Churchill. Rod Lyne was actively involved in selling the WMD lies and arguably in danger of war crime accusation himself.
None of the committee members had ever expressed the slightest doubt about the Iraq War while 60% had actively promoted it. Of Chilcot himself the eminent international lawyer Phillippe Sands noted:
“Sir John’s spoonfed questions give every impression of being designed to elicit a response from the attorney general that would demonstrate the reasonableness of his actions and those of the government.”
The point of the delay is to give the impression Chilcot has been absolutely painstaking and therefore the bucket of whitewash he will throw cannot be hiding anything.
Do not be fooled.
And here is his friend Mr Putin’s justification of Molotov-Ribbentrop
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11213255/Vladimir-Putin-says-there-was-nothing-wrong-with-Soviet-Unions-pact-with-Adolf-Hitlers-Nazi-Germany.html
Resident Dissident: “And here is his friend Mr Putin’s justification of Molotov-Ribbentrop”
We constantly hear of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Let’s remember it was Britain who refused first to sign an anti-fascist pact with Russia;
If you are going to quote Putin, try using a proper Russian source rather than the Russian bashing Telegraph;
http://russia-insider.com/en/history/truth-about-soviet-german-non-aggression-pact-23rd-august-1939-and-its-secret-protocol
Here’s a Saturday smile:
https://twitter.com/AtlasNews7/status/634851024486965248
and here’s a brief clip of the Right2Water protest in Dublin:
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/637642437557551104
O/T
Lord Janner will not be forced to attend court to face child abuse charges
Proceedings against former Labour peer are listed for 1 September at Old Bailey but Mr Justice Sweeney will not require him to appear in person
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/28/lord-janner-old-bailey-child-abuse-charges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Sweeney
So there we have it Macky has joined Mr Putin in blaming the Molotov Ribentrop pact on Britain. So much for Mr Goss’s claim that there was not a shred of evidence.
And our sharp debater now says that by never criticising Mr Blair amounts to having long waved the flag for him – my silence and lack of flag waving condemns me as having committed thoughtcrime.
As for my view on Chilcot – I’m afraid Mr Goss and his ever sharp debating skills will have to wait until it is published and even then I will have to think there is something worth saying about the report. You see not having Mr Goss’s debating skills I tend to need some evidence before I reach conclusions.
It looks like Harvey Proctor has fled the country, which means that I’ll lose my bet about him being arrested sometime soon.
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5651/police-are-still-sifting-items-seized-from-raid-on-harvey-proctor
And I certainly remember Mr Goss casting doubt on the reality of Soviet responsibility for the Katyn murders because I was moved to take him up on the point.
I recall he did so by linking to “recent research” by some nutty American “professor”,so I suppose he will reply by saying “it wasn’t me who said so”.
Mr Goss – wouldn’t you be a happier Big Ears if you emigrated to Mr Putin’s Russia? You know Russian and you are a pensioner, so what’s stopping you?
Apologies if already posted:
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//news/world/russian-woman-wins-one-ruble-in-lawsuit-against-ex-employer-a-pro-putin-internet-troll-factory
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — A Russian court on Monday awarded symbolic damages of one ruble ($0.01) to a former “Kremlin troll” who sued her ex-employer and demanded closure of what she describes as a “factory” that has been churning out Internet propaganda defending President Vladimir Putin.”
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange fears he may be assassinated if he steps outside the Ecuadorian embassy.
In an interview with The Times Magazine, Mr Assange said he has not had any fresh air or sunlight for three years because it is too dangerous to leave the building.
He told the magazine: There are security issues with being on the balcony. There have been bomb threats and assassination threats from various people.
Mr Assange believes his situation will be resolved in the next two years, by which point he will have spent five years living in the embassy.
I wonder why he feels his situation will be resolved in two years, I don’t imagine the CIA are the type to forgive and forget.
Mr Assange looks terrible in the photo of him and Jessie Jackson. It’s a travesty that telling the truth can sometimes be very bad for ones health, what does that say about societies relationship with the truth overall?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08/29/julian-assange-asassinated-embassy_n_8058442.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk
President Barack Obama reacted to the fatal shooting of two WDBJ-TV journalists Wednesday, saying he was heartbroken and contending that gun violence kills more in America than terrorism.
Well at least Obama has told the truth for a change, I can’t recall anyone dying from terrorism in the USA.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/26/watch-what-obama-says-about-gun-violence-and-terrorism-when-asked-about-wdbj-shooting/
RD: “Macky has joined Mr Putin in blaming the Molotov Ribentrop pact on Britain”
Macky was referring to a pertinent historical fact, which seems to be always left unmentioned.
@RobG/Lysias, Apologies if this has been aired here before, as I’m not been following too closely all the stuff about the unfolding saga of the child abuse cover-ups, but have just read a reference to a book by the late Paul Foot, titled “Who Framed Colin Wallace?” published back in 1989;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNXDbIFXAAUG_8l.jpg
And followed up by reading the Wiki on Colin Wallace, extraordinary & damning to say the least !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Wallace
Donald Trump drew laughs Friday night when he accused Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton’s top aide, of sharing classified information with her “perv” husband, Anthony Weiner, but the Clinton camp didn’t find the comments funny.
“Think of it, Huma [who Trump called Ooma] is getting classified secrets, she’s married to Anthony Weiner, who’s a perv. He is,” Trump told supporters in Norwood, Massachusetts, reports CNN. “It all sort of came through Huma — who is Huma married to, one of the great sleazebags of our time.”
Donald Trump being his usual charming self, god help America if he become president.
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/672546
“Macky was referring to a pertinent historical fact”
Oh dear talking about yourself in the 3rd person
Fedup; “Let’s cut to the chase!”
Why stop there, let’s think about all the pro-war/humanitarian bombers who also seem to always see more the Israeli pov on I/P, and the odd fact that so many of them don’t seem too keen on Corbyn becoming Labour leader for some reason; how baffling ! 😉
Fedup
When was I promoted from ziofuckwit to the zionist supremacist vermin support brigade?
Do either figure a lot in your dreams?
Ssh Anon 1 – they’ll all be wanting their $700 per month, with free bicycle tours thrown in, and then will Mr Putin and his friends be able to afford their luxury wristwayches given the current oil price?
Oh dear Mr Goss’s CIA bug or perhaps its my lousy typing appears to have got to the last post.
Macky, the Kincora Boy’s Home in East Belfast is probably the biggest scandal of them all, because it involves direct high level state involvement in the sexual abuse of children. Theresa May continues to refuse to include Kincora in her inquiry/whitewash, which only covers England and Wales. I don’t as a rule give links to my own blog, but if interested you can find out more here (it includes video of questions being asked in the Northern Ireland Parliament about the cover-up):
http://www.spiderbomb.com/blog/?p=3054
With regard to Harvey Proctor, the news that he has fled the country came out today in the Daily Mail…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3214887/As-s-accused-abuse-gang-murdered-boys-defiant-ex-Tory-MP-Harvey-Proctor-says-Child-sex-lies-cost-job-home.html
The above is an apologist piece – ‘poor, poor Harvey, it’s a witch hunt against homosexuals’ – as were recent news reports about the Ted Heath allegations, reports that appeared in everything from the Guardian to the Telegraph.
I feel this is relevant to Craig’s post here, because whether it’s illegal wars or child sex abuse it’s all one big cover-up by a totally rotten and corrupt Establishment.
“RobG to Mack:
Macky, the Kincora Boy’s Home in East Belfast is probably the biggest scandal of them all, because it involves direct high level state involvement…etc, etc…”
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Wakey wakey, Lysias – time for a link to the Daily Mail!
Republicofscotland
“I can’t recall anyone dying from terrorism in the USA.”
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Resident Dissident
“Ssh Anon 1 – they’ll all be wanting their $700 per month, with free bicycle tours thrown in, and then will Mr Putin and his friends be able to afford their luxury wristwayches given the current oil price?”
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Was that a reference to Mr Goss? If so, I wonder if he has tried to enter Poland again?
I had thought on the basis of his third bullet point in his statement (perhaps somewhat naively) that Chilcot’s statement was blaming difficulties in getting the Blair Bush telephone correspondence as a cause for the delay, that he is not going to be bounced into reporting before he has got the disclosure and when he gets it that it will be disclosed and in his report. If that does happen then that might be interesting. So I will try not to prejudge.
We want to know when Blair agreed with Bush that we would join the war
“That is the kind of a vermin you are supporting without any shame or any remorse! Way to go resident diss!”
I am not supporting anyone arresting a 10 year old boy with their arm in plaster – as always you are creating your own straw man against which to vent your usual hatred.
I don’t think we need chilcot. The current refugee crisis is indictment enough.
Hieroglyph
29/08/2015 2:44am
I do not believe the death penalty remains in force in the UK for any offence whatsoever.
http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/capital-punishment
Kind regards,
John
@RobG, thanks for the info & links (nice site btw); this whole can of worms really puts everyhing into propective making sense, as since the Deep State is prepared to indulge in pedofilia & cover-ups of murdered children, why should we be the slightest bit surprised that the inner circle of Government think nothing of lying to get this country to help the US destroy Iraq, or that corruption is rampant in the honours systems, or that MP’s were getting away with fiddling their expenses for years !
The whole British Establishment is so inherently corrupt & morally bankrupt, that reform seems impossible, without replacing the whole system, from expensive Public schooling to OxBridge to jobs for boys to old boys network, to the hyprocrisy of the facade of being a “Right Honourable Member”.
Somehow I don’t think Chilcot will deliver on this !
John – the UK has signed and ratified Protocol 13 of the European Convention on Human Rights abolishing the death penalty in all circumstances http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/Commun/ChercheSig.asp?NT=187&CM=&DF=&CL=ENG. This has implications also for extradition http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FS_Death_penalty_ENG.pdf.
Azerbaijan and Russia are the only members of the Council of Europe that have yet to sign the Protocol.
RobG
29/08/2015 6:53pm
In your link, Harvey Proctor says:
“‘I have no private income, no savings, a pension from eight years as an MP and a small one from my time with the Paper Federation [a paper industry body] before I entered Parliament. I have to work. Who will want me now?'”
He’s 68 years old. He can go and see a Customer Services Officer at Melton Borough Council who will advise him on whether he qualifies for council assistance with housing (I assume he is a vulnerable person because of his age, so he should qualify for assistance). He can claim Housing Benefit for assistance with rent and council tax. If he wishes to declare himself single then he can claim Guarantee Pension Credit to top his income up to £151.20 per week.
This is how many of my clients live. This is the sort of thing they have to do: elderly people have to live on £151.20 per week if single or £230.85 per week as a couple. This is what successive Governments offer the poorest in our society. He deserves exactly as much as they deserve: no more, no less. He deserves exactly as much sympathy as they deserve: no more, no less.
Kind regards,
John
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/columnists/richard-heller-chilcot-delays-and-iraq-undermine-trust-in-our-ruling-elite-1-7433883
Good old taxpayer.
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